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programminglinguist
24th October 2010, 09:21
I hope to soon start writing my highschool senior paper denouncing intellectual properties but I would like to do it from a communistic viewpoint.
What does a communist think of intellectual properties?
How would programmers/musicians/artists/etc etc all those people who generate intellectually get paid if the idea of intellectual properties did not exist?
Is there anything you can contribute or link me to that can help me?
The Idler
24th October 2010, 20:28
Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig (http://www.free-culture.cc/)
Against Intellectual Property | Anarchist news and information (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infoshop.org%2Faip.html&ei=p4jETMcU25PgBqTQqLoD&usg=AFQjCNFlRDGkHLUouGS1_vi0v9x6TttqwQ&sig2=jhqvDdp7zQehJrfW2r19yQ)
PoliticalNightmare
24th October 2010, 21:46
This coming from a musician, I don't necessarily believe one should get funded for doing non-productive labour. This depends upon the individual commune of course but I reckon that only labour that is functional to society in some manner should be rewarded (some might think that a musician/artist or whatever is giving back to his society though) - mass decision.
This said, since everyone gets paid for the full value of their labour they don't have to work so long anymore. This means they can pursue other means and ends during their extra spare time: everyone would be encouraged to pursue the arts, literature, etc. outside of their 'productive' labour (which is an entirely subjective opinion, may I add).
Hope this helps, cheers.
LC89
25th October 2010, 07:37
I believe corporation's intellectual properties doesn't deserved respect in general. As a Window user, Window Vista crash my pc every times it got updated. I lost my trust on mainstream software. I would rather get open-source or freeware then donate money if I enjoy it.
I heard from one of my favorite musician The Flashbulb said that iTunes doesn't give royalty to the musicians for the musics they sold through their software/site.
¿Que?
25th October 2010, 07:47
Intellectual what?
Q
25th October 2010, 08:00
Basically communists stand for free exchange of information. In a modern context this would have a legal expression in Creative Commons (http://creativecommons.org/).
Communist publishing houses in the old days published without enforcing copyright. Sadly these days these publishing houses, where they still exist, very much work on a commercial basis. Pathfinder is one example.
Oswy
25th October 2010, 08:36
This coming from a musician, I don't necessarily believe one should get funded for doing non-productive labour. This depends upon the individual commune of course but I reckon that only labour that is functional to society in some manner should be rewarded (some might think that a musician/artist or whatever is giving back to his society though) - mass decision.
This said, since everyone gets paid for the full value of their labour they don't have to work so long anymore. This means they can pursue other means and ends during their extra spare time: everyone would be encouraged to pursue the arts, literature, etc. outside of their 'productive' labour (which is an entirely subjective opinion, may I add).
Hope this helps, cheers.
I'm new to this subject but I'd have thought any labour which satisfies human need is 'real' labour and as humans are social animals who need to experience the pleasues of social life I'd say things like performance form part of that. Also, socialism and communism are not systems which would allow anyone to go without human needs being satisfied regardless of whether they were successful in their labour endeavours; even if you're a lousy drummer you'll still be fed, clothed, homed and friendshipped (in my vision anyway).
mikelepore
25th October 2010, 08:54
Consider the contents of gutenberg.org, a library of free ebooks in every category. If a student is interested in studying the latest discoveries in physics, medicine, etc., or current events in the world, the most recent information you can get is what was new as of the early 1900s. For anything more recent, the copyright has not yet expired. I hope you like the book "Astronomy of Today", published in 1910 -- back then they didn't even know about the existence of galaxies, or Einstein's general relativity. The educational potential of the internet is being sacrificed for the sake of the profits of publishing companies' stockholders -- and, of those two things, which is really more important for the good of the human race?
Revolution starts with U
25th October 2010, 15:20
What do communists think of private properties?
Not a fan.
The Idler
26th October 2010, 19:01
Its your lucky day cause I just found this site about the Anarchist view (http://www.tangledwilderness.org/?p=50)
Notorio
27th October 2010, 03:41
As had been said before, The main idea behind communism is the assimilation of private property. Although this is mainly in regards to land and property, (as said by Karl Marx) The general perspective i beleive, is that is should be free. However, many leftists have differing views on this topic, i think it's a matter of opinion.
I have been a proffesssional and Semi-proffessional musician for over 8 years, i have music which i have performed and written, i encourage people to download them at no cost from myspace etc. I do sell CD's at concerts and performances though. Even though most people are aware they can download the tracks for free. Many chose to purchase the CD so that they may support the artist.
Notorio
27th October 2010, 03:44
Oh, i forgot to mention, there's a lot of literature, from leftists, supporting both sides of the case, other forum uses have posted some here. I do beleive however that if a musician has attained a proffesional status, and his works are saught after by the public, then he somehow, should be compensated for his efforts.
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