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StockholmSyndrome
21st October 2010, 16:16
I found most of this article agreeable. However, the author's critique of bourgeois multi-party democratic elections is coming from the perspective of someone who believe's the bureaucratic Stalinist-Maoist model of single party elections is somehow more representative of the people, simply because they have nominal "economic rights", when in reality the bureaucratic elite has de facto ownership.

http://www.pslweb.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=14625&news_iv_ctrl=1261

I think people need to not be so unflinchingly apologetic on behalf of China. The author of this article doesn't seem to realize that that a Marxist critique of bourgeois democracy must also posit a true worker's democracy with worker's control as the only alternative. I do not mean to defend Liu's Nobel prize, and I think the author is right to condemn it. I just think this article could have been a bit more critical of China.

Prosperityistobeshared
24th October 2010, 19:30
How many times have I seen the word Democracy in political articles? Too many!

It really doesn't matter too much about people's democracy. democratic centralism. If the core objectives are not completed, even having direct democracy is useless. We can have elections and debates all day, and most people would be starving. Then we would be seen as residing in ivory tower and depending on iron rice bowls rather than doing something useful.
I guess I like my explanation because I think Political Leftness and Economical Leftness are two different concepts (even though heavily related).

And for someone like Liu Xiaobo, he's probably a rival of someone in the CPC. Then again, 2009 Peace Prize to Obama? The Prize Committee really lost its bearings. I'm guessing the group likes 1984 and its War is Peace strategy.
Also, who is Liu Xiaobo? I've heard a lot of news that he fights and struggles for Democracy. Does democracy put food on the table? No.
But do Labor and Work put food on the table? Yes. I wonder why Imperialist and Capitalist propaganda uses a flawed strategy to promote its interests. Imagine how useful a "Capitalist Democracy" is if everyone starves.

Those things aside, I don't care how the Chinese leadership and administration manage their own affairs. But it would be more than desirable if the peasant and urban workers get proper benefits wages as well as respect. Additionally, in China, there are also too many homeless people. When China takes care of those problems, it will have evolved into a superpower of the moral sense, completely bypassing political propaganda.:D