The Rent is TO DAMN HIGH!

[Bud Struggle]

This guy is running for Governor of New Yor State. Great message, great delivery and at the candidate debate blew everyone else out of the water. He gad the audience chanting along with him.

x4o-TeMHys0

The Left needs to field more candidates like him. (Though I doubt this guy would consider himself anything close to a Communist.)

Cool guy, though.

[Edit] Can I please be allowed to post Youtubes? Thank you.

[ComradeMan]

This guy is running for Governor of New Yor State. Great message, great delivery and at the candidate debate blew everyone else out of the water. He gad the audience chanting along with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0

The Left needs to field more candidates like him. (Though I doubt this guy would consider himself anything close to a Communist.)

Cool guy, though.

[Edit] Can I please be allowed to post Youtubes? Thank you.


As a karate expert he'd get my damn vote! Comrade!

[¿Que?]

Yo Bud, new system. Didn't get the memo? Ah right, you're restricted...

Anyway, you just put the random letters after the equal sign right now. Like this:

(YOUTUBE)x4o-TeMHys0(/YOUTUBE)*

*The parenthesis are supposed to be brackets, but if I put the brackets, it posts the video.

[Jimmie Higgins]

Well the left has run many candidates who speak from a more normal perspective of people's immediate concerns: wages, rent/affordable housing, etc. In California, Peter Camejo was always fun to watch and when he was allowed into the debates during the recall election, the media was similarly confused by the polls that showed people saying that he "carried the debate" even though the same people also said they probably wouldn't vote for him.

I think even though this guy in NYC probably isn't a leftist (I haven't seen the video yet and only heard about him from the newspapers this morning) it shows the huge gap between what officials consider politics (issues important to the ruling class) and the real issues and concerns of people.

[Bud Struggle]

Well the left has run many candidates who speak from a more normal perspective of people's immediate concerns: wages, rent/affordable housing, etc. In California, Peter Camejo was always fun to watch and when he was allowed into the debates during the recall election, the media was similarly confused by the polls that showed people saying that he "carried the debate" even though the same people also said they probably wouldn't vote for him.

I think even though this guy in NYC probably isn't a leftist (I haven't seen the video yet and only heard about him from the newspapers this morning) it shows the huge gap between what officials consider politics (issues important to the ruling class) and the real issues and concerns of people.

But the bottom line is that everybody pays rent--but few people are involved in Iraq or Iran in an substantive way--but it's the people that speak about the exoteric end of politics that get the votes and people that discuss the real meat an pototo issues that get left behind in the dust.

I don't know why that is--but that's one of the big reasons Leftists don't chart in the polls.

[PoliticalNightmare]

Edit.

[Bud Struggle]

Yo Bud, new system. Didn't get the memo? Ah right, you're restricted...

Anyway, you just put the random letters after the equal sign right now. Like this:

(YOUTUBE)x4o-TeMHys0(/YOUTUBE)*

*The parenthesis are supposed to be brackets, but if I put the brackets, it posts the video.

I did it and it still doesn't work. Damn Commie PLOT! :cursing:

[¿Que?]

I did it and it still doesn't work. Damn Commie PLOT! :cursing:
You're doing it wrong. (although I don't know specifically what you're doing). PM me with what exactly you're typing in. I don't want to derail the thread.

[Revolution starts with U]

haha, you sure are proud of your psuedo martial art there (unless its Okinawan, I give them a little credit. Mainland japan's karate is next to worthless. Go break some boards, whoopeee :laugh:).
Akido, judo, JKD, shaolin, muay tai, tai chi, krav maga; those are real martial arts :cool:

[timbaly]

I watched and/or listened to most of the debate last night. I had to stop watching once the Rangers-Yankees game started (Cliff Lee!!!!). I thought the five non-mainstream candidates stole the show. McMillan made a lot of valid points though his style is a bit too over the top for some of the voters. Hawkins, the Green Party candidate from Syracuse made some of the most interesting arguments. He also said the election should involve ranking candidates so people do not feel as thought they have to choose between "the lesser of two evils". Perhaps if this was done candidates who talk about real issues affecting the most people would have a shot at winning something. I must say I was disappointed to see that Paladino didnt act too crazy.

[Red Commissar]

Check out his official page if you want more laughs

http://rentistoodamnhigh.org/

[timbaly]

Check out his official page if you want more laughs

http://rentistoodamnhigh.org/


Even if this guy isn't a communist or socialist you got to love his presentation. He's a nice breath of fresh air from the status quo. In the debate I heard him talking about how President Obama has allocated all sorts of money for the states and how he plans on fulfilling Obama's plans thereby subsidizing rents, funding public transit, not having to raise taxes, not raising property taxes and giving people access to free college education.

[RedLeft]

He is certainly an interesting guy.

This debate actually took place last night at my University, I was outside protesting Paladino's anti-gay policies. Got a ticket to the debate but chose to protest instead. Wish I could have seen this dude in person.

Off topic, but the candidate from the Socialist Workers Party was outside and gave us fliers since they wouldn't let him speak.

Glad somebody made a post about this. :thumbup:

[Lt. Ferret]

you could have seen this dude in person if you werent outside being irrelevent.

[RedLeft]

you could have seen this dude in person if you werent outside being irrelevent.

I hardly think that it is being irrelevant. One of his opponents (Paladino) is fervently anti-gay. It is our responsibility to expose and fight fascism whenever we can.

And so what? Though it would have been a unique experience to see him, he is only a man like the rest of us. I can have the same experience by watching him on TV.

[Lt. Ferret]

if thats how you view life experiences i honestly feel really sorry for you.

but have fun "fighting fascism" symbolically instead of doing something with your time.

[RedLeft]

I am not going to put politicians and other humans on some type of pedestal. I don't really care if I see them in person or not, what's the difference? They are no different than you or I. I chose what I thought would make a more positive impact on society. I feel that I did something useful with my time; if you don't agree, that's your problem.

I would rather protest something that I am against rather than sit back and watch a debate that I could see on television anytime I want.

[Conquer or Die]

There's a time opinion making and there is a time for war. Paladino is a jerkoff for sure, but what is the exact possibility that he will endanger the civil liberties of gays? Is it alright to have an anti-gay human being anywhere so long as they aren't pushing an agenda against other people?

Granted, it could happen here.

[RedLeft]

If he wins office, he is going to fight to keep gay marriage illegal in NYS. I don't believe he will win office, but I think getting married is a basic civil liberty that everybody should have. So if he wins, he will be perpetuating the denial of marriage rights to homosexuals.

[timbaly]

Off topic, but the candidate from the Socialist Workers Party was outside and gave us fliers since they wouldn't let him speak.

Glad somebody made a post about this. :thumbup:

Why didn't the NY SWP try to get a candidate on the ballot this year? I heard they didn't submit any petitions to the Board of Elections. They almost always run a candidate for governor, or at least they usually have in my lifetime.

[RedLeft]

Why didn't the NY SWP try to get a candidate on the ballot this year? I heard they didn't submit any petitions to the Board of Elections. They almost always run a candidate for governor, or at least they usually have in my lifetime.

I'm actually not sure, I am not involved with the SWP. The guy just said he was running for governor with the SWP, gave us his fliers, and said that they wouldn't let him on the platform to speak. I don't really know the details, but I know I was excited to see a socialist there even if he wasn't speaking. :D

[timbaly]

I'm actually not sure, I am not involved with the SWP. The guy just said he was running for governor with the SWP, gave us his fliers, and said that they wouldn't let him on the platform to speak. I don't really know the details, but I know I was excited to see a socialist there even if he wasn't speaking. :D

I see, I was briefly involved while in high school and I felt they had too many authoritarian traits that I did not care for.

[Fulanito de Tal]

Why didn't the NY SWP try to get a candidate on the ballot this year?

Because the rent is too damn high :lol:

[Fulanito de Tal]

Even if this guy isn't a communist or socialist you got to love his presentation. He's a nice breath of fresh air from the status quo. In the debate I heard him talking about how President Obama has allocated all sorts of money for the states and how he plans on fulfilling Obama's plans thereby subsidizing rents, funding public transit, not having to raise taxes, not raising property taxes and giving people access to free college education.

I love his website. He's straight to the point.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h111/durancm/Nothingelse.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h111/durancm/Rent911.jpg

[timbaly]

I love his website. He's straight to the point.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h111/durancm/Nothingelse.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h111/durancm/Rent911.jpg

So true. There's too many yuppie types that real estate people want to cater to. It seems like every project in downstate NY is geared towards yuppies or senior semi-affluent New Yorkers. The affordable housing problem in downstate is getting worse by the day. I'm not too sure how it is upstate but I imagine it must be at least a little bit better in terms of housing, though people don't have jobs up there to pay for housing.

[Lt. Ferret]

move the fuck out of NYC goddamn.

[ComradeMan]

move the fuck out of NYC goddamn.

Where? The people who are affected by these issues are usually the people who have the lowest ability to be able to move?


"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


and then someone added the reply---


"I can't do that and you know why?
'Cus the rent in NYC is just too damn high!"
:laugh:

[Lt. Ferret]

save your money up with some other people and get out. NYC is a wasteland. the rent IS too damn high, and theres no reason to stay there. i paid 550 a month for a large two bedroom house in oklahoma. yeah, it sucks youre in oklahoma, but that size house would be like 4k a month in nyc.

[ComradeMan]

save your money up with some other people and get out. NYC is a wasteland. the rent IS too damn high, and theres no reason to stay there. i paid 550 a month for a large two bedroom house in oklahoma. yeah, it sucks youre in oklahoma, but that size house would be like 4k a month in nyc.

But the problem is that a lot of the people affected can't save up their money anyway- they have to spend it on food.... and the RENT which as we have seen- IS TOO DAMN HIGH!

[RED DAVE]

it sucks ... in oklahomaMy wife and I have a 4-room, rent stablized apartment in Manhattan for about $1000. It is exactly people like us, working people, who are being attacked and driven out. I wouldn't want to be buried in Oklahoma.

RED DAVE

[Robert]

Oklahoma really has become a magnet for California emigrés. The water's clear, the stars are bright, companies are hiring, OU is #1 in football, the men are men, the sheep are nervo-- well, never mind that.

Oklahoma is a great state, growing and underpopulated. I predict a real estate boom akin to that of Vegas. See you in Oklahoma!

p.s. The water's good, but don't smoke the marijuana.

zIImhu8H-0w

[RED DAVE]

When Oklahoma was for real:


The Green Corn Rebellion took place in 1917 in rural Oklahoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma). It was a brief popular uprising advocating for the rural poor and against military conscription by poor European-American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European-American) farmers, Seminoles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminole), Muscogee Creeks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscogee_Creek) and African-Americans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American), including people affiliated with the Socialist Party of America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_of_America).

Background

Upper Creek Indians took up arms joining forces with other groups to seek aid from the US federal government for the rural poor. The timing of the armed rebellion was during the Creek's traditional Green Corn Ceremony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Corn_Ceremony). An Oklahoman Seminole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminole) woman, whose uncle was a leader in the movement, remembered: "The full moon of late July, early August it was, the Moon of the Green Corn. It was not easy to persuade our poor white and black brother and sisters to rise up. We told them that rising up, standing up, whatever the consequences, would inspire future generations. Our courage, our bravery would be remembered and copied. That has been the Indian way for centuries, since the invasions. Fight and tell the story so that those who come after or their descendants will rise up once again. It may take a thousand years, but that is how we continue and eventually prevail."

The short-lived uprising erupted when the government attempted to enforce the national draft law passed by Congress. On 3 August 1917, at the end of the Green Corn Ceremony, Creeks, Seminoles, and a group of Central Oklahoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Oklahoma) farmers, spurred on by local socialists and the Arkansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas)-based Working Class Union organized to oppose the draft. The rebels may have believed they would get the support of the Industrial Workers of the World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World) (IWW). However, the IWW had rejected affiliation with the WCU in May 1917 because the WCU included farmers, shopkeepers, doctors and lawyers and not just wage workers. Arming themselves, a few hundred rebels met on the banks of the South Canadian River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Canadian_River) and prepared to march on Washington, D.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.)

Reacting to the rebellion, local townspeople marshaled their own forces, fought several small skirmishes with the rebels, and eventually scattered them. The battles killed four townsmen, three rebels, and a local schoolteacher mistakenly killed by a posse after he ran a roadblock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadblock). [3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Corn_Rebellion#cite_note-2) In all, 266 men were arrested; 150 were convicted and 75 sent to jail. The rebels served terms ranging from a few months to 10 years, and while most were paroled or pardoned after a short period, five men remained in the Federal prison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Penitentiary,_Leavenworth) in Leavenworth, Kansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leavenworth,_Kansas), in February 1922.

Socialism

The Socialist Party had been a significant political force in Oklahoma, regularly winning 10 percent of the vote in elections. As did many socialists in Europe, the Oklahoma farmers viewed World War I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I) as a rich man's war and vehemently opposed U.S. participation in it.

The rebellion weakened the Socialist Party in Oklahoma, although the party did help former Oklahoma City mayor John C. Walton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Walton) to be elected governor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Oklahoma) in 1922. Nationally, the Socialist Party was blamed for the rebellion, although the incident was set off spontaneously without its knowledge. This was one in a series of events that undermined the American socialist movement and fueled the Red Scare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Red_Scare).

Sam Marcy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Marcy), founder of Workers World Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_World_Party) upheld the Green Corn Rebellion as the ideal working class, anti-war struggle in his book "The Bolsheviks and War" published in 1985.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Corn_Rebellion#cite_note-5)
(edited to remove FNs)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Corn_Rebellion

RED DAVE

[JosefStalinator]

Oklahoma really has become a magnet for California emigrés.

Now ain't that just the damnedest irony.

[PoliticalNightmare]

Rent is pretty high in London as well.

[PoliticalNightmare]

Or perhapsI should say, it's TOO DAMN HIGH!

[L.A.P.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZGSG6WNRS8

If his debate was too theatrical for you then this should help you find out his views in a serious manner. I may be an atheist but I pray Jimmy McMillan wins.