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ed miliband
19th October 2010, 14:57
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/oct/19/spending-review-document-job-cuts

As one comment says, if that is what they are admitting we must automatically expect worse. Meanwhile they are attacking those on benefits who naturally don't work because they are too lazy, not because there aren't actually enough jobs for every unemployed person to work, obv. Do they seriouslly think 500k workers are going to be absorbed by a private sector without any jobs? Of course they don't...

human strike
19th October 2010, 15:32
Not to mention the private sector continues to cut jobs and hours in the pursuit of short term profits and then also add the impact public sector cuts has on particularly small and local businesses and you've got yourself into a right pile of shit with little prospect of recovery any time in the near future.

Oh well, if you can't find a job you can always just go back into full-time educa- oh no wait, no you can't because you can't afford to anymore since they uncapped tuition fees.

Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
19th October 2010, 17:46
The tories continue to claim that we will share the costs of paying off the defiacit, while destroying hundreds of people's lives by sacking them and slashing benifits. The millionare bankers go on unharmed.

Nuvem
19th October 2010, 17:53
I sympathize. It's pretty much the same story here in America except we have an even larger private sector. And of course, as is typical in this country, everyone blames the government and not the private enterprises that are depriving them of their jobs by outsourcing, job slashing or wage cutting, and their solution is to put hardcore right-wingers in power.

Is the British government still dumping money into Greece trying to save its economy?

IndependentCitizen
19th October 2010, 18:02
I honestly don't understand conservatives. As much as I love the idea of socialism. Following Keynes idea of economics makes sense.

Even the IMF have said not to cut immediately, they're happier to make more money by increasing interest if we pay it over a longer time, I'd rather have that then cuts and more cuts.

RadioRaheem84
19th October 2010, 18:23
That's a good point. I really cannot see how any classical economist or proponent of capitalism cannot at least see the merits of Keynesianism in times of crisis.

How is the solution to be more right wing than before? :confused:

If I were taking my lessons from David Harvey, this would actually fall right in in with a conscious effort to fully restore class power.




* Conservatives also tout how it wasn't the New Deal that got us out of the Depression, but WWII. How do they sit there and actually gives us an answer like that????

Doesn't it puzzle everyone else as to how the miss the point that WWII was a massive government expenditure?

IndependentCitizen
19th October 2010, 22:19
That's a good point. I really cannot see how any classical economist or proponent of capitalism cannot at least see the merits of Keynesianism in times of crisis.

How is the solution to be more right wing than before? :confused:

If I were taking my lessons from David Harvey, this would actually fall right in in with a conscious effort to fully restore class power.




* Conservatives also tout how it wasn't the New Deal that got us out of the Depression, but WWII. How do they sit there and actually gives us an answer like that????

Doesn't it puzzle everyone else as to how the miss the point that WWII was a massive government expenditure?

Conservatives hate the idea of state-intervention, possibly why they ignore the fact the New Deal was the saviour.

RadioRaheem84
19th October 2010, 22:52
It wasn't so much the New Deal as WWII. New Deal was a band-aid by comparison. What saved the country was central planning at all levels.

Tomhet
19th October 2010, 22:59
I relate!!! I still have my job, but my Dad lost his job today, all because he told his incompetent manager off!!
Awfull.. :(

Reznov
19th October 2010, 23:05
I relate!!! I still have my job, but my Dad lost his job today, all because he told his incompetent manager off!!
Awfull.. :(

Why'd he tell him off?

RadioRaheem84
19th October 2010, 23:14
I relate!!! I still have my job, but my Dad lost his job today, all because he told his incompetent manager off!!
Awfull.. :(
How is the situation in Canada? I hear it's supposed to be good because it bypassed the recession pretty well and came out stronger? Any truth to that?

Ele'ill
20th October 2010, 00:50
You know- I hear that May 4th comes around once a year....

Amphictyonis
20th October 2010, 00:55
That's a good point. I really cannot see how any classical economist or proponent of capitalism cannot at least see the merits of Keynesianism in times of crisis.

How is the solution to be more right wing than before? :confused:

If I were taking my lessons from David Harvey, this would actually fall right in in with a conscious effort to fully restore class power.




* Conservatives also tout how it wasn't the New Deal that got us out of the Depression, but WWII. How do they sit there and actually gives us an answer like that????

Doesn't it puzzle everyone else as to how the miss the point that WWII was a massive government expenditure?

Keynes was a capitalist who wanted to save capitalism and "civilize" the globe. (The Fabians even kicked him out of their fold) Keynes was an imperialist racist scum bag and if not for him capitalism would have seen worse crisis in the past which would have set the stage for a successful global revolution. Keynes is our enemy as is Keynesian theory. :) He saved capitalism from the capitalists.


http://www.socialistreview.org.uk/article.php?articlenumber=10590

RadioRaheem84
20th October 2010, 01:48
I know comrade. The point was that neo-classical types do not even adhere to his prescription policies in times of crisis.

Ocean Seal
20th October 2010, 01:51
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/oct/19/spending-review-document-job-cuts

As one comment says, if that is what they are admitting we must automatically expect worse. Meanwhile they are attacking those on benefits who naturally don't work because they are too lazy, not because there aren't actually enough jobs for every unemployed person to work, obv. Do they seriouslly think 500k workers are going to be absorbed by a private sector without any jobs? Of course they don't...
Bastards have no shame. Same in New York. Cuomo supposedly the "better" choice has promised to cut something like 100k public sector jobs. Its hard living in America where rarely do we see a good candidate and much less a good electable candidate.

Who?
20th October 2010, 02:03
Bastards have no shame. Same in New York. Cuomo supposedly the "better" choice has promised to cut something like 100k public sector jobs. Its hard living in America where rarely do we see a good candidate and much less a good electable candidate.

True, but we still have this man:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/10/20/alg_jimmy_mcmillan_101910.jpg

See, it's not all bad.

Hen
30th October 2010, 02:00
Prime Minister's Questions 27/10/2010:

Christopher Pincher Conservative MP for Tamworth,
"Would the Prime Minister join me in congratulating Ocardo for providing 2000 much needed new jobs on the edge of Tamworth, and while he's there would he congratulate the chief executive Tim Steiner for making it clear that he supports the difficult decisions the government is making"

David Cameron,
"The honorable member makes a very good point. Business leaders in Britain who are going to create these jobs to employ thousands of people in this country support what the government is doing. They want us to follow it through. I'm happy to congratulate the person in question, not least because I'm one of their customers *snort*"

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Would you give a shout out to my pal Tim Steiner for helping me to become richer from the surplus he will generate from 2000 new laborers.

Happy to. Business leaders unite! Your support will be rewarded!