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curioso
7th August 2003, 00:27
Just wondering if there are folks out there who would buy che merchandise.... I'm not talking t-shirts and posters, but things beyond that like Star Wars styled merchandising campaign. Plz don't flame me I'm not about to do it just curious.

Sasafrás
7th August 2003, 01:46
What do you mean, like a Che action figure? I don't get it....

Legends
7th August 2003, 08:00
I wouldnt buy any che merchandise apart from books, doesnt matter what it is you will still be giving money to large corporations who will give the makers of the t-shirts minimum wage or in some dingy sweat shop.

Boycott Che merchandise, do you honestly think Che would want his face used a financial mission.

Ian
7th August 2003, 09:40
Che's daughter, Aleida Guevara, said that she doesn't care, and that she is in fact happy to see people wearing che shirts.
However she hates it when he is used to sell vodka and other crap.

the SovieT
7th August 2003, 11:56
whats wrong with selling vodka?


vodka... gooooooooooood.........


Avante= vodka + beer + drunk and stoned communists (marxist-leninists mostly)



In fact i wil emidiatly make some lemon vodka and name it Lil Che.....
the revolution needs it!

Ben Sir Amos
7th August 2003, 13:56
At Havana airport in the duty free bit a couple of years ago they were selling Che watches. Unbelievably tacky and I couldn't bring myself to buy one then (it was probably a swatch). But I guess that during the 'special period' and in the face of the blockade we should do all we can to help the Cuban economy. I might draw the line at a Che action figure. I think I would prefer to contribute economically by drinking large amounts of Havana Club - but that's another thread.

Legends
7th August 2003, 14:00
I drink Havana Rum, it is fucking brillant and it is only £10 a bottle about 14 euros. well worth it.

bluerev002
8th August 2003, 02:39
Nope, Che merchandise is baaaaad, other than books. I have basicly no use for some kind of Che shrine in my room so Action figures, watches, or whatever is useless.

Koba Dzhugashvili
9th August 2003, 07:03
I would like to buy a Che action figure to put on a shelf or something. It would be real cool if they made a "Revolutionaries" action figure series with Che, Fidel, Lenin, ect. ect. It would teach kids about Communism and be nice colectibels for adults.

bluerev002
9th August 2003, 19:28
No it wouldnt! I could just imagine it now a commercial saying : "Buy your Communist action figures now! Be teh first kid on your block to own one of these cool collectibles!"

Che isnt some type of movie star or rock star or even some kind of cartoon character like the ninja turtles to be making toys out of! It would be digrating to his name to reduce him to a mere play thing!

As for teaching kids about communism...no&#33; They wont know jack about Che or Lenin only that they used to play with them when they were younger. Che action figures <_<

Koba Dzhugashvili
9th August 2003, 20:07
I never meant to be a widly marketed and commercialized thing, it would just be cool. I mean it could come with phamplets on the revolution and stuff. Then the kids could reinact the revolution. I never said it in a way to degrade him to a "plaything" but for him to be rememberd by younger generations. You could set up scenes and play revolution. I would teach my kid who he was and what he stood for before I just got him a Che action figure or whatever.

Durruti
10th August 2003, 20:27
"Revolution is profitable.
So the capitalists try to sell it.
The money mips take the best things our hearts and minds produce, turn them into consumer products with a price tag and sell them back to us as merchandise.
They take our symbols, drenched with blood from the streets, and make them chic...
Beware the psyuchedelic buisnessman who taks of love on his way to Chase Manhattan.... He has a big pile of cash and a short soul.
A hip capitalist is a pig capitalist. "
- Jerry Rubin, DO IT&#33;

Sorry, I just finished that book and this debate reminded me of it.

Dr. Rosenpenis
10th August 2003, 22:49
a few years back, some kids were bringing lunch boxes to school with pictures of the simpsons and superman and stuff, so i wanted a che image on a lunch box for myself, but i didn&#39;t use a lunch box, so i drew che on my bag, it looked pretty cool. :)

AnarchistsUnite
10th August 2003, 23:18
I heard a reference talking of teh popular rapper Jay-Z wearing a Che T-shirt. I may be paranoid or just wierd, but consciously or not, capitalizing on Che&#39;s image does what the United States government could not: Kill him.

Just remember:

:che: Glorification :che: could :che: kill :che: him :che:

Rote Zora
10th August 2003, 23:36
Originally posted by Koba [email protected] 9 2003, 07:03 AM
I would like to buy a Che action figure to put on a shelf or something. It would be real cool if they made a "Revolutionaries" action figure series with Che, Fidel, Lenin, ect. ect. It would teach kids about Communism and be nice colectibels for adults.
I´m a day care teacher,but I never thought of such toys.

There are socialistic organisations to tell children about communistic ideas.

One example is the Rote Peperoni (www.rotepeperoni.de)

Capitalistic firms would only make fun out of Che,Lenin,...whoever.

A picture,or even a figure of Che is nothing when you don´t know about his ideas.

For what should a capitalistic firm make Che fight for?More profit?

The idea of such a figure is maybe funny.Nothing more.

truthaddict11
11th August 2003, 00:51
there was a fidel action figure check here (http://www.smallblueplanet.com/content/closerlook.asp?productId=11638)

commieboy
11th August 2003, 03:49
i have a serious problem with buying Che stuff on Ebay...i know its bad but god damnit its such a deal&#33; I went into a hottopic store with my friends and they had a Che shirt with Che&#39;s image and a star...&#036;20 american....then i went to thechestore, &#036;20 so i go to ebay, same shirt and everything....EIGHT DOLLARS&#33; other than that i&#39;ve bought watches and books, posters, i have an actual photograph of CHE&#33; a real photo&#33; i just cant fucking pass up some of these deals. so sorry if i buy che stuff, but atleast i know who he is. :che:

Danton
11th August 2003, 17:00
I seem to vaguely recall some Cuban comics, detailing the Revolution and some of the pivitol battles etc...they would be well worth finding....

Legends
12th August 2003, 07:33
I actually have a confession, I WOULD actually buy one bit of Che merchandise apart books and that would be a poster.

Fidelbrand
12th August 2003, 13:48
Confession:

Hi people.. I m from Hong Kong. No one knows much abt Che over here... and merchandise of Che are hard to be found.. I managed to get a Tee of Che .. just to show my adoration for this hero. (Of coz i have read abt him before from books.... not blindly following those "chic" sheep herds ) :lol:

Cheers, ;)

Legends
12th August 2003, 13:54
I dont see the point in buying t-shirts myself, all that is doing is giving money who are making a profit off him and his beliefs. But then again its not as though he is the only person who is being made a profit by the greedy companies so it is up to you if you want to feed the greedy corporate world your money.

Rote Zora
13th August 2003, 09:35
Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2003, 12:51 AM
there was a fidel action figure check here (http://www.smallblueplanet.com/content/closerlook.asp?productId=11638)
Talking about yourself?

Rote Zora
16th August 2003, 00:15
Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2003, 12:51 AM
there was a fidel action figure check here (http://www.smallblueplanet.com/content/closerlook.asp?productId=11638)
I´m sorry "truthadicct11"&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
I thought you were joking on me.Sorry&#33;

Fever
16th August 2003, 01:51
I think Che himself might find those t-shirts kinda offensive. And im sure that he wouldnt appreciate corporations whoring his image in order to make money.

trudeaumania
17th August 2003, 05:24
Che mechandise. Che action figures? <_< To me some crusades and memories are just too precious, to mercandise. Imagies of him, on t-shirts I think are great. If for no other reason, they can be conversation starters. But as we see, with too many imagies after awhile, people say &#39;who cares.&#39; And then what started as one man&#39;s quest for change in this world, becomes just a fad.- But I would say I wish all these &#39;capitalist corporations&#39; would get off this promotion for profit. Can&#39;t you just see the absurbity of it all, a marketing team set down and discuss &#39;Che inspired fleecewear&#39;. :blink: If any imagies are manufactured, they should be done so, in Cuba. And any sales and profits should be returned to Cuba. That would be true justice, in an otherwise ignorant world. :huh:

bluerev002
18th August 2003, 00:28
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2003, 05:51 PM
I think Che himself might find those t-shirts kinda offensive. And im sure that he wouldnt appreciate corporations whoring his image in order to make money.
That is exactly right