NATIONAL (UK) student walk out 24th November

[durhamleft]

against education cuts and increases in tuition fees.

http://anticuts.com/2010/10/18/walkout/

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=134751449911080

we need to get this movement to build momentum as quickly as we can and students need to really get this moving. i go to school so will have great difficulty getting this off the ground without being expelled but me and a group of friends are gunna go for it.

[bricolage]

During the Iraq marches a sympathetic teacher said she would defend us bunking off to go to them if the school tried to do anything. I reckon there must be some that would do the same for you.

[durhamleft]

During the Iraq marches a sympathetic teacher said she would defend us bunking off to go to them if the school tried to do anything. I reckon there must be some that would do the same for you.

yeah there are, but at the same time i know a lad who was excluded for the rest of the year for his involvement in the iraq stuff, so while i would have staff fighting my corner senior management at my school are conservative cretins

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Will the SP be at the 10th nov demo also?

[Lyev]

Is putting posters or organizing meetings for this kind of thing technically illegal? Not sure about the latter, but fairly certain about the former. I think perhaps, if this did actually gain some steam (would be good to get it on the front of the Daily Mail or something - they would go berserk), many students would be walking out simply to "skip lessons" or whatever. Then again, I have been kinda surprised at those who I thought were apolitical, or perhaps even quite conservative (deliberately spelt with a little "c") who have voiced opposition and disillusionment with the rise in fees. In fact, many, many students were attracted to the lib-dems as somehow "radical", because of their more leftwing stance -- only by a fraction though -- on Iraq and Afghanistan, but also for promising to stand up for students. What we have to be careful of, at least in the UK, is students putting their support in Labour because they're in opposition or somehow more leftwing than the coalition. When, in fact, they oppose the coalition's cuts in rhetoric only, and will vaguely "champion the trade unions" or whatever for opportunist reasons.

[revolution inaction]

putting poster or stickers up for anything is criminal damage if you don't have permision for who ever owns the thing you put them on, so don't get caught

[fionntan]

Not that im a student but my wife is and i would not be happy with her walking out as i live in the North of Ireland "classed as the UK by some some there for i would feel as an Irish Republican that it would be imapropreate for us/her as we both share the same views to support that unless they specified that it was a Irish walk out to.

[Crux]

Not that im a student but my wife is and i would not be happy with her walking out as i live in the North of Ireland "classed as the UK by some some there for i would feel as an Irish Republican that it would be imapropreate for us/her as we both share the same views to support that unless they specified that it was a Irish walk out to.
Thanks for showing us the deficiencies of nationalism. So you'd rather not walk out at all if it was happening "in the UK"? Even if you're hit by the exact same attacks and cuts? That's some political depth and insight right there.

[ed miliband]

Not that im a student but my wife is and i would not be happy with her walking out as i live in the North of Ireland "classed as the UK by some some there for i would feel as an Irish Republican that it would be imapropreate for us/her as we both share the same views to support that unless they specified that it was a Irish walk out to.

What?

[Palingenisis]

Thanks for showing us the deficiencies of nationalism. So you'd rather not walk out at all if it was happening "in the UK"? Even if you're hit by the exact same attacks and cuts? That's some political depth and insight right there.

Its really funny how the CWI flairs up at even the suggestion of what could be labelled "Irish nationalism" but on the other hand you are quite cosy with "British nationalism" even when it comes to naked nakedly sectarian Loyalist killers? Such hypocracy takes away from any point you might have.

[Crux]

Its really funny how the CWI flairs up at even the suggestion of what could be labelled "Irish nationalism" but on the other hand you are quite cosy with "British nationalism" even when it comes to naked nakedly sectarian Loyalist killers? Such hypocracy takes away from any point you might have.
I guess the point flew right over your head. As usual then. When will Palingenesis get an infraction for trolling? She's obviously not here to debate.

[Palingenisis]

Yeah well, I heard someone say somewhere that you contribute to far-right groups abroad. After all there are several that support irish nationalism.

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I dont support Irish nationalism you muppet.

[Lyev]

Its really funny how the CWI flairs up at even the suggestion of what could be labelled "Irish nationalism" but on the other hand you are quite cosy with "British nationalism" even when it comes to naked nakedly sectarian Loyalist killers? Such hypocracy takes away from any point you might have.I'm gonna start a thread about this, because this is near-trolling -- any serious discussion remotely concerning or involving one comment by a CWI member is fucked up by your constant sectarian nattering. So let's start up a separate discussion for this, away from this thread & others, and get it out the way. I mean, even disregarding the questionable nature of this claim you make, it's not as if it makes all the other good work that everyday CWI members do completely obsolete.

[Palingenisis]

I'm gonna start a thread about this, because this is near-trolling -- any serious discussion remotely concerning or involving one comment by a CWI member is fucked up by your constant sectarian nattering. So let's start up a separate thread for this and get it out the way. I mean, even disregarding the questionable nature of this claim you make, it's not as if it makes all the other good work that everyday CWI members do completely obsolete.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/progressive-unionist-party-t114963/index.html?t=114963

There has been threads on this before.

Its not questionable...As Jolly Red Giant showed on the Ardoyne thread your organization supports Ulster Loyalism...A pretty vicious and extreme manifestation of British nationalism.

[Crux]

I dont support Irish nationalism you muppet.
So why are you afraid of Irish nationalism, you ultra-left? Because obviously if you don't get why you should join a student walk-out if it is called in UK while the north is still under brittish rule that can be nothing else than nationalism. I'll leave the window open for "just plain daft" too. Now quit wasting bandwidth and go play somewhere else.

Lyev: It has been addressed and explained before and I think that would be feeding this little troll something enormous. She is not by any means worth a thread of her own, unless it is in the Trashcan. You don't seriously expect that thread won't be trolled to death?

[Palingenisis]

So why are you afraid of Irish nationalism, you ultra-left? Because obviously if you don't get why you should join a student walk-out if it is called in UK while the north is still under brittish rule that can be nothing else than nationalism. I'll leave the window open for "just plain daft" too. Now quit wasting bandwidth and go play somewhere else.

I didnt express any opinion in defense of fiontann...He can argue for himself.

My point is that somebody from such an odious and slippery organization as yourself really isnt in a position to comment on his not well thought out statement.

[Palingenisis]

So why are you afraid of Irish nationalism, you ultra-left? Because obviously if you don't get why you should join a student walk-out if it is called in UK while the north is still under brittish rule that can be nothing else than nationalism. I'll leave the window open for "just plain daft" too. Now quit wasting bandwidth and go play somewhere else.

Lyev: It has been addressed and explained before and I think that would be feeding this little troll something enormous. She is not by any means worth a thread of her own, unless it is in the Trashcan. You don't seriously expect that thread won't be trolled to death?

Mon the wombles ;).

[Lyev]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/progressive-unionist-party-t114963/index.html?t=114963

There has been threads on this before.

Its not questionable...As Jolly Red Giant showed on the Ardoyne thread your organization supports Ulster Loyalism...A pretty vicious and extreme manifestation of British nationalism.
OK, thanks for the link, but it's at least reasonable for you to resist from derailing every single thread vaguely about the CWI with this constant criticism. It's not at all pertinent here in this case.

[Crux]

An appeal to reason is meaningless in this case. A moderator should clean this thread up, delete everything from after Palingensis entered this thread. And, now or at some point in the future, delete Palingenesis from these forums. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of trolling.

[durhamleft]

Its really funny how the CWI flairs up at even the suggestion of what could be labelled "Irish nationalism" but on the other hand you are quite cosy with "British nationalism" even when it comes to naked nakedly sectarian Loyalist killers? Such hypocracy takes away from any point you might have.

Thank you for taking a massive shit on my thread

[Stranger Than Paradise]

In follow up to the impressive occupation on Wednesday I think we need to have a visible presence on the 24th.

Any other revolutionaries in London planning for this?

[bailey_187]

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE

the 24th is a wednesday, i have no lectures on wednesdays.

I want to walk out, but i got nothing to fucking walk out from :mad:

will there be some sort of demo i can atleast go to

[human strike]

I should imagine so. Is nobody organising anything at your uni? We are at mine so we can be involved even though we have no lectures heh.