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Malatesta
16th October 2010, 11:02
EDL Lies by ‘Malatesta’


With many thanks to UK Fightback for sharing information!


The English Defence League’s relationship with the truth is almost as good as their relationship with the National Union of Journalists (NUJ) whose members they have been making threatening noises about on their website (the thread is called Know Your Enemy). The EDL are politically naïve and have yet to learn that in a highly mediated society it is not what you say but how you are represented that makes an impression on the public. The EDL continue to show themselves in a bad light by getting drunk and causing trouble with the cops, and their stewards are no longer able to contain the violence, as they admit on their forum. Attacking members of local communities does not help either - as we saw in Leicester with the heroic defeat of Militant Islam in the form of frightened women and kids in a restaurant. The EDL threaten the very people who control their media image and who could actually help present the EDL in a more positive light. Threatening journalists is not a classic example of political efficacy. The violent footage from Leicester is doing the rounds on YouTube and yet again we see the ‘peaceful’ and ‘non-racist’ EDL attacking Asian people and making Nazi salutes.

Sieg Heil?
Lancaster UAF have posted yet another damning video on http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/ (http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/)
Watch at 2.40 for the obligatory Sieg Heil. As the evidence continues to mount the EDL ‘leadership,’ who clearly have no control over who attends the demos, continue to deny far right connections. They rather tiredly point to the token mixed race Joel Titus, Guramit Singh and ‘Glasgow’ Ali as well as their Jewish section. Do the Jewish section enforce an anti-Sieg Heiling policy on the demos? Didn’t think so. Also, where were the much trumpeted LGBT brigade on Saturday? In Serbia on the Pride march perhaps? These are paper members of Facebook who do not count on the day. It is people on demos that make an impact.

EDL Nazis
The continued denial of the EDL’s Nazi membership is hollow and completely unbelievable. The documentation of known fascist connections increases daily. The following is a list of BNP and Nazi connected members, courtesy of UK Fightback.

Leader Tommy Robinson aka Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, former BNP member.
EDL website was set-up by BNP activist Chris Renton.
EDL co-founder Paul Ray described Chris Renton as "de-facto Commander of the EDL." Paul Ray says he's been ostracized from the EDL for opposing Chris Renton linking with Combat 18 (C18).
EDL organizers Steven White and Luke Pippen are Combat 18 activists.
C18 activist Bryan Powell is an official BNP steward.
EDL Facebook + You Tube chat shows hundreds of EDL support racists like the BNP, NF, Blood and Honour, BFF, C18 and KKK.
EDL Wayne Baldwin has been pictured in a Swastika T-shirt.
EDL supporter Earl Turner has been shown wearing a British Freedom Fighters t-shirt
The Welsh Defence League is riddled with Nazis.
Scottish press famously revealed that dual membership of Scottish BNP and Scottish Defence League is almost 100%.
2nd in command Kevin Carroll nominated a BNP candidate for election, but claims he was tricked into doing this and claims he can't be racist because he says he has a mixed-race daughter.
WDL finally ostracised Swansea C18 for refusing to stop making Nazi salutes on demos but Jeff Marsh is still happy to work with the known C18 members with whom he currently runs the WDL.
Luke Pippen Swansea C18 member runs the Casuals United Blog with EDL Wales / WDL founder Jeff Marsh.
Steven White, Jeff Marsh’s assistant has a Swastika tattoo on his chest and was pictured holding British Freedom Fighters t-shirt.

So, clearly a non-racist organisation. In case you don’t know: Combat 18 are an ageing Nazi organisation who had its day back in the 90s when it dissolved into infighting and murder. Several members of the British Freedom Fighters (BFF) were recently jailed over internet racism and bomb charges. Blood & Honour is a racist white noise music organisation started by dead Nazi Ian Stewart Donaldson. The National Front (NF) are a long established fascist party who are currently benefitting from the implosion of the BNP. The mass of data, photographs and videos of the EDL seig-heiling and generally being drunken buffoons makes their claim of being peaceful and non-racist sound very foolish but again, this is yet another example of their political naivety. On openly Nazi forums like VNNuk posters admit their enthusiasm for the EDL:
‘A friend of mine went with a dozen of his mates … the EDL battered fuck out of The Ethnics. He said he never saw any ethnics with the EDL and him and the 2 or 3 thousand there couldn't give a fuck about Israel or Zionism and all they care about is beating up ethnics and Muslims in particular.’
And also
‘Fuck all those who shout Zionist sympathisers and all the rest of it. For the vast majority it just isn't about this.....it's about making a stand against an aggressive invader who has seriously abused the indigenous people of these Isles.’
The evidence of the English Defence League’s connections with fascist and Nazi organisations is now undeniable. But of course this will not stop them denying it.

PS: As we are apparently plagiarizing other people’s research today, here is an entertaining link to the BDF forum about the Green Arrow AKA Paul Morris.
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/bnp/82848-morris-file.html (http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/bnp/82848-morris-file.html)
PPS: Veteran Nazi drunk and Saltdean sofa soaker Pete ‘Sid’ Williamson was battered last weekend in Brighton by one of his Nazi ‘comrades’!



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AnarchoMassLineDemarchist
16th October 2010, 14:13
except their not nazis as nazis were a german political party of national socialists.

The EDL are racist Exenephobic capitalist party.

most people in it are thick morons, who dont even know what hitler stood for economically or politically, all they know is he was also racist and anti semitic.

These people also inhabit my estate, and recently and told one of them he was a thick prick, who was pissed off his dad was layed off and the factory owner hired some immigrants.

I explained they were not fucking his dad over, but the rich people were.

These people get ignorance passed on through their dads, and like me, many of their dads have been layed off, and had either immigrants take the jobs, or had their factory shipped off to poland or some other place.

This is handy for the capitalists as the workers then play themselves off against each other for the scraps from the table.

A Revolutionary Tool
17th October 2010, 04:50
except their not nazis as nazis were a german political party of national socialists.Wow seriously? Are you saying the only nazis that exist are the nazis who belonged to the nazi party that Hitler was in?


The EDL are racist Exenephobic capitalist party.Kind of like the Nazi party.


most people in it are thick morons, who dont even know what hitler stood for economically or politically, all they know is he was also racist and anti semitic.Sounds kind of like the Nazi party. Do you think the Nazis got powerful because of their solid economic program? No it's because they scapegoated, fear-mongered, and intimidated themselves into power.


These people also inhabit my estate, and recently and told one of them he was a thick prick, who was pissed off his dad was layed off and the factory owner hired some immigrants.
Yeah sounds like a freakin' Nazi dude.


These people get ignorance passed on through their dads, and like me, many of their dads have been layed off, and had either immigrants take the jobs, or had their factory shipped off to poland or some other place.Which is just how it was when the Nazis rose to power. Rampant unemployed who were led to believe it was a foreign/evil power trying to oppress them. In that case it was the Jews with their communist conspiracies, in this case it's immigrants and foreign companies taking away jobs.

9
17th October 2010, 05:01
This thread is like a parody of all the most ridiculous things about antifascists.

bricolage
17th October 2010, 10:45
Hmmm, Malatesta's writings are normally very good but I'm not sure about this one.

antifa scotland
19th October 2010, 19:41
i have had many death threats and on going battles with the edl/sdl/bnp/nf.
When it comes to direct action they combine forces and have the same hate filled
ideals.

This is why you see nazi salutes and flawed ideologies in their attempts to blame their own poor existences on ethnic minorities when its the fascist corporations and employment agencies who oppress immigrants rights with less wages and some agencies treating them like slaves.

I feel really sorry for people who emigrate because in my eyes they have had a really bad time. From being oppressed by hate filled groups, being exploited by corporations, some having their life's and society destroyed by multinational corporations in a resource based war for survival.

I still cant understand why such elitist ideals have turned us against each other. On a social level sure you get the odd moron who thinks like this but i honestly think their numbers are growing due to the continuing power these far right media outlets have.

Let us remind ourselves that its the media who conditions and turns MILLIONS into non thinking zombies who continue to support the state due to these high levels of conditioning that ARE a form of brainwashing. This world needs more free thinkers, people who can think outside of the box and challenge the status quo so we can make a difference and do whats right for the better of all.

Reznov
20th October 2010, 02:24
Sounds kind of like the Nazi party. Do you think the Nazis got powerful because of their solid economic program? No it's because they scapegoated, fear-mongered, and intimidated themselves into power.




Proof that this is the reason?

This is a good point but I need to be able to prove it against these one kid im currently arguing with. (thanks to whoever does.)

IndependentCitizen
20th October 2010, 09:33
i have had many death threats and on going battles with the edl/sdl/bnp/nf.
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I've had many death threats too, none of them are a realistic approach to what they would really do however, what's your favourite one?

Mine's that they're gonna shove a Soviet Union flag down my throat and hoist me in the streets for public display.

antifa scotland
20th October 2010, 19:08
I've had many death threats too, none of them are a realistic approach to what they would really do however, what's your favourite one?

Mine's that they're gonna shove a Soviet Union flag down my throat and hoist me in the streets for public display.

best one i got was when they found out where i worked and the head nazi's mates came round to my work and told me "he's going to come round for his shopping and kick your head in" Fucking ****s!

Sam_b
20th October 2010, 23:12
Please don't use prejudiced language.