How many teamssters does it take to change a lightbulb?

[Charles Xavier]

18 you got a problem with that?

[Q]

That's what the revisionist would say.

[maskerade]

how many libertarians does it take to change a lightbulb?

none. the invisible hand does it :laugh:

[Martin Blank]

How many Trotskyists does it take to change a light bulb?

Nine: One to change the light bulb, and eight to chant "Down with darkness!"

[F9]

How many revleftists does it take to change a lightbulb?
200: 50 mods +10 admins waiting each other to change it, and the rest 140 whine how mod/admin team cant change it.

[Rusty Shackleford]

how many fabians does it take to change a lighbulb?

infinite. they will slowly fill the room with candles to influence it to change, but it will never change.

[praxis1966]

How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?

Fish.

[Jazzhands]

How many Stalinists does it take to change a lightbulb?

WHAT? WHO TOLD YOU THE LIGHTS ARE OUT?! BOURGEOIS FASCIST LIES!!!!111!

[Martin Blank]

How many Stalinists does it take to change a lightbulb?

WHAT? WHO TOLD YOU THE LIGHTS ARE OUT?! BOURGEOIS FASCIST LIES!!!!111!

That's close to this one:

How many anti-revisionists does it take to change a light bulb?

Six. One to change the light bulb and five to write documents about how the light bulb burning out was actually a plot by Trotskyites and fascists to sabotage the Socialist Motherland.

[The Douche]

How many RAANistas does it take to change a light bulb?


MAKE TOTAL DESTROY!!!!!!!!

[Rusty Shackleford]

How many RAANistas does it take to change a light bulb?


MAKE TOTAL DESTROY!!!!!!!!
:laugh:

[gorillafuck]

How many ADHD kids does it take to change a lightbulb?


Wanna play videogames?

[Rusty Shackleford]

how many adhd kids does it take to change a lightbulb?


Wanna play videogames?
adderall

[Robocommie]

How many Leftcoms does it take to change a lightbulb?

None, it is not our place to change the lightbulb, it must be changed by the workers themselves. Anything else is vanguardism.

[ckaihatsu]

How many ultra-lefts does it take to change a lightbulb?

Whoever let the lightbulb burn out should be *killed*.


x D

[ckaihatsu]

How many populists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Only the one that the people of this great country have overwhelmingly chosen as their own, to cast aside the darkness and usher in a new era of enlightened, brave living. It will be a bright, radiant light for all of the middle class families with both parents working, raising their kids, and still managing to save a little something on the side for a rainy day. Our country will be blessed by this light, and we will move forward as one people to say no to ignorance, hatred, and fear. All it takes is the hope that change can happen.

[ckaihatsu]

How many identity-politics members does it take to change a lightbulb?

It's a membership thing -- you wouldn't understand.

[Q]

How many reformists does it take the change the lightbulb?

... Uhm, can't we just try and fix it?

[Q]

How many hitchhikers to the galaxy does it take to change the lightbulb?

42

[ckaihatsu]

How many opportunists does it take to change a lightbulb?

What we really need to look at here is why lightbulb-changers are being demonized. Plenty of fine, regular people -- friends of mine, in fact -- have changed lightbulbs all their lives and they're not the ones who should have fingers pointed at them when a lightbulb burns out. They're the ones who have been in the trenches of lightbulb-changing and could tell you some stories about exactly what it takes to change a lightbulb. It's not about how many it takes to change a lightbulb, it's about who really has the heart and soul for doing the job, and doing it right.

[ckaihatsu]

How many bureaucrats does it take to change a lightbulb?

Oh, you want Phil, down the hall -- okay, go out this door, take a right, then a left at the end of the hallway, and it's the third door on your left there. Tell him I sent you, and he'll have that wrapped up for you in no time. Just make sure to ask him for form DZ-7592 -- now you're going to fill that out legibly in black ink only, and get hardcopies to this office here, to Phil's department, and to the area region head. That office complex is just one town over, right off of I-930. So you're going to want to leave out the building, hang a left there at Sheldon Road, get on I-930, and then get off two exits later at Havenson, make a right, and it'll be the second driveway on your right there. The region head is a new guy, name of Bern, who comes to us from Hellen's group that covers the whole state -- now I heard that Bern is a no-nonsense kind of manager, which is good for you because once that paperwork clears that region office will have that lightbulb changed faster than you can think "jet-ski". Have a good day and thank you for choosing your local lightbulb changing service facility!

[Rusty Shackleford]

how many capitalists does it take to change a light bulb?

none, they will hire a worker and pay then a less than living-wage to replace the light bulbs that the other workers(including this one) at the capitalist's company have to buy because that is all that capitalists will produce because they are designed to need to be replaced every few months ensuring a constant flow if profit.


how many workers does it take to change a lighbulb?

one.

[ckaihatsu]

How many community activists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Oh, hey, you're in luck -- we have a lightbulb-changing festival coming up in just three weeks! Yeah, everyone's involved, and it's just so much fun every year! We've got lightbulb-shaped cookies and yellow punch for the kids -- cute, right? Yvonne does the best papier-mâché lightbulb lanterns which look just great in the dining room -- it's even better than a dimmer switch, if you can imagine. Now here's some informational literature about lightbulb-changing -- it's from last year's festival, so it might be a little dated, but just come on the 26th and you can get the latest one. We also feature a terrific lightbulb-changing troupe -- they're going to be coming in from out-of-state, if you can believe it, and they are absolutely phenomenal. I just don't know how they do it so quickly and easily -- it's like an art form with them, and I can barely figure out how to get the darn thing out of the package in the first place. Usually it's my kids -- yeah, I got two kids, there's Angie, she's five, and Tom, of course, he's already four! They're so good with technical things like lightbulbs -- it impresses the heck out of me and makes me so proud. I can't even get one of those packages open without Angie and Tom just springing into action with the stepladder and doing it. Anyway, we're going to have an organizing meeting tomorrow for the festival and we'd love if you could make it and see what you have to say about everything. Could always catch up afterwards and take care of that, uh, other thing we used to do all the time! Yeah, hope you can make it! See you then!

[Martin Blank]

How many RAANistas does it take to change a light bulb?


MAKE TOTAL DESTROY!!!!!!!!

How many RAANistas does it take to change a light bulb?

Change it?! They're the ones who smashed it!

[ckaihatsu]

How many non-political people does it take to change a lightbulb?

Okay, guys, let's take care of this real quick and then we'll get back to that pizza and those beers! Yeah, so the thing burnt out some time last night 'cause I found it this morning when I brought my first load down and hit the switch and then nothing. So Jake, are you good with getting up on a ladder to take the old one out? No, I'm not implying anything by that -- why do you ask? You know me better than that -- I never imply stuff about people, least of all you. Well, okay, yeah, that one time last spring, but that was about it -- yeah, you got me on that one, all right. So, anyway, the ladder's over-- what? You'd rather screw the new one in? But then Joan has to haul the ladder into place and screw the old one out. She's never going to do that because of her nails -- you know that, Jake. You just want the credit for screwing the new one in, isn't that it, really? And then you just make us ladies do all of the crap while you look good. No, don't try to deny it, Jake -- I know how you are. You're not going to get your way this time because I have to do laundry and I need the light on down there. So man up here and show your kids what responsibility looks like, Jake. This is what the new lightbulb looks like -- it's the energy saver kind that cost a bit more but there was a rebate coupon special on TV that I called in for and I just made the cut-off so that was 75 cents at the store right there. Joan! Joan, are you ready, dear? Jake's going to get the old one out and you can screw the new one in. Why did I say "screw"? I don't know, dear, what else would you call it? "Turn" the new lightbulb in? No, I didn't mean anything by "screw" -- are you okay, Joan? Yes, if you'd like me to say "replace" instead I can say that -- would you 'replace' the old one that Jake's going to remove with this new one, then? Okay, I think we're just about ready to go here....

[EvilRedGuy]

How many Marxist-Leninists does it take to change a revolution?

None. It will never happen with Marxist-Leninists.

[ckaihatsu]

Political slogan:

'The people, lighted, will never be defeated!'


= D

[gorillafuck]

How many Marxist-Leninists does it take to change a revolution?

None.
lol That doesn't make any sense at all. You kinda suck at making fun of people.

[Sasha]

how many ML's does it take too change a lightbulb?

well, it will first have to be taken in an five year plan, than the bulb will have to come from an factory in kazachstan but the fitting wont fit, so it will be send back, get lost in burocracy until someone buys an bulb on the blackmarket and will get send to siberia fot that, all the wile the buble still wont be changed so the desperate people will support an wildwest capitalist comming to power who will sell the place where the bulb needed to be fitted to the west.

[ckaihatsu]

CORRECTION:

The following is actually an example of *extremism* -- not ultra-leftism:





How many ultra-lefts does it take to change a lightbulb?

Whoever let the lightbulb burn out should be *killed*.


x D


*This* would be an example of ultra-leftism:


How many ultra-lefts does it take to change a lightbulb?

There could never be enough to make it happen.

[ckaihatsu]

How many moralists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Don't worry about it -- any one of them would be more deserving of the light than you.

[The Douche]

How many RAANistas does it take to change a light bulb?

Change it?! They're the ones who smashed it!

Bet you this makes it into a communique some time.

[Ovi]

How many RAANistas does it take to change a light bulb?

Change it?! They're the ones who smashed it!
That's because it was a leninist light bulb.

[Martin Blank]

That's because it was a leninist light bulb.

Or because it was in a Democratic Party office in suburban California.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Or because it was in a Democratic Party office in suburban California.
good tie in!

How many anarchists does it take to change a lighbulb?

theyll just turn it into a vaporizer.

[ContrarianLemming]

How many fatalists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Why bother..

[ckaihatsu]

How many revolutionary defeatists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Are you sure the old lightbulb can be removed?

[ckaihatsu]

How many Luddites does it take to change a lightbulb?

We got along just fine with candles.

[ckaihatsu]

Next political chant:

'They say cut-off, we say fuck off!'

[Leonid Brozhnev]

How many Nazi's does it take to change a lightbulb?

Just one, but it only burns for a brief second instead of the projected 1000 years on the box. The Nazi then sits in the dark and obsesses over what could have been, *****ing about all the coloured lightbulbs out there still shining away.

[ckaihatsu]

How many social workers does it take to change a lightbulb?

We've got the new lightbulb right here, but first why don't you tell us a little about your personal history?

[ckaihatsu]

How many dialectical materialists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Two. The first one will note that the lightbulb has burnt out, and the second one will negate that by saying that the lightbulb is still lit. From the thesis and its antithesis the two will arrive at the synthesis that the lightbulb is no longer a lightbulb. The availability of a replacement lightbulb will be determined by the class struggle, specifically which side of the class division is in control of society's surplus. The class war will continue longer than anyone had predicted, with ideologues on both sides trumpeting prematurely that history had already resolved this contradiction. The status of the lightbulb changing project is as yet undetermined.

[ckaihatsu]

How many psychologists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Think back to your first experience with lightbulbs. What do you remember about them? On this blank sheet of paper draw a picture of your emotions at that age when you interacted with your first lightbulb. Remember, you're going to have to want to change the lightbulb.

[ckaihatsu]

How many complexity theorists does it take to change a lightbulb?

The more complexity theorists tasked to the project, the better the results, up to a certain threshold beyond which there will be diminishing returns.

[Robocommie]

How many Maoists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Two, one to change it, one to declare it the People's Day of Illumination.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

How many social workers does it take to change a lightbulb?

We've got the new lightbulb right here, but first why don't you tell us a little about your personal history?

In the UK that joke would go,

How many social workers does it take to change a lightbulb?

None. The social workers visit the lightbulb multiple times and don't find anything wrong with it. Then one day the lightbulb is smashed and the government is forced to investigate how the social workers could have failed the lightbulb so badly.

[Jazzhands]

How many dialectical materialists does it take to change a lightbulb?

this will end in flames.

[ckaihatsu]

Yeesh....





this will end in flames.


...Or in a victory for the proletariat!


= D

[ckaihatsu]

How many scholasticists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Let's consult the classic texts to find out how it's done.

[Angry Young Man]

How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?

Fish.

No, the punch-line is 'to get to the other side.'

How many Stalinists does it take to change a light-bulb?

1 to decree that the lightbulb needs changing
1 to arrange the change of the light bulb
1 to spy on the above man
3 to organise transport to the busted lamp
15 to work as protection
1 to kill everyone below the man who decreed that the lightbulb needed changing
1 to kill him

[WeAreReborn]

good tie in!

How many anarchists does it take to change a lighbulb?

theyll just turn it into a vaporizer.
:laugh:

[WeAreReborn]

No, the punch-line is 'to get to the other side.'

How many Stalinists does it take to change a light-bulb?

1 to decree that the lightbulb needs changing
1 to arrange the change of the light bulb
1 to spy on the above man
3 to organise transport to the busted lamp
15 to work as protection
1 to kill everyone below the man who decreed that the lightbulb needed changing
1 to kill him
I wish I could thank you for this.

[Rusty Shackleford]

How many chit-chatizens does it take to change a lightbulb?

As soon as discussion about a broken lightbulb begins, like clockwork, the discussion is derailed and the whole thing is forgotten. Everyone magically becomes drunk and high and says whatthey want by pouring their hearts out. also, they write stupid polls about how much they like to whine about having a broken lightbulb.

[Gustav HK]

How many maoists does it take to change a lightbulb?

1 to actually change it.

9 to stand around and chant passages from the Little Red Book.

4 to invent some classic maoist slogan like "combat the 4 evils of darkness", or "let us fight in the two-line struggle between light and darkness".

How many hoxhaists does it take to change a lightbulb?

1 to change it.

And a lot to build 10 bunkers for the lightbulb, to defend it from evil fascists, imperialists, social-imperialists and revisionists that try to destroy it.

How many (orthodox) trotskyists does it take to change a lightbulb?

The lightbulb isn´t burnt out. It just has degenerated light. The change cannot happen in one lightbulb alone. You also must continue changing the lightbulbs, permanent revolution! (Here "revolution" is meant like in "revolutions pr. minute").

[ckaihatsu]

How many workerists does it take to change a lightbulb?

You're mistaken -- the lightbulb would never have gone out because it was constructed from materials made by the strongest raw muscle power and honest sweat of tirelessly laboring, strong-jawed resolute industrial workers. Decisively directing massive machinery to flawlessly execute the plans of their towering, indomitable designs, they produced, practically magically, a light-radiating globe unrivaled by any other creation in its ingenuity and beneficence to all of humankind. If the replacement of a lightbulb were actually necessary it would be accomplished in an awe-inspiring way by those same workers, demonstrating a combined force of will and ability unmatched by any other known force from nature or man. Celebrations would spontaneously erupt all over the world at the news of such an accomplishment and those on the street would naturally turn towards the other in the warmest embrace.


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How many Revlefters does it take to change a lightbulb?

http://www.revleft.com/vb/many-revlefters-does-t116932/index.html

[Il Medico]

How many hipsters does it take to change a light bulb?

It's an obscure number, you've probably never heard of it.

[Il Medico]

No, the punch-line is 'to get to the other side.'
Actually that is a classic example of non sequitur, so yes, he's quite right.


How many Stalinists does it take to change a light-bulb?

1 to decree that the lightbulb needs changing
1 to arrange the change of the light bulb
1 to spy on the above man
3 to organise transport to the busted lamp
15 to work as protection
1 to kill everyone below the man who decreed that the lightbulb needed changing
1 to kill him:laugh:

[The Douche]

How many primitivists does it take to change a lightbulb?

lol

[Rusty Shackleford]

How many kittens does it take to change a lightbulb

KRONDSTADT YOU EVIL LENINISTS! YOU KILL EVERYONE!

[IndependentCitizen]

How many hitchhikers to the galaxy does it take to change the lightbulb?

42
I love that!

[Honggweilo]

how many anti-germans does it take to change lightbulb

over 3 generations, because of their reluctance to do anything bright caused their national guilt, it might imply superiority

[Martin Blank]

how many anti-germans does it take to change lightbulb

over 3 generations, because of their reluctance to do anything bright caused their national guilt, it might imply superiority

Win!

[ckaihatsu]

How many armchairists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Well, the odds of the lightbulb being changed are about 50/50....

[Ravachol]

How many MTW's does it take to change a lightbulb?

LIGHTBULBS? You dirty first-world labour-aristocratic whiteboy buying lightbulbs with your surplusvalue from your superexploitation! The third-world true proletariat will rise up and SMASH all your fucking lightbulbs!

[ckaihatsu]

How many careerists does it take to change a lightbulb?

The thing is, it may look simple, but there's more to changing lightbulbs than meets the eye. You really have to have the proper education and training for it, and even then not everyone is cut out for it. You certainly can't leave it to a layman to figure out and attempt to do on their own. Fortunately I've been changing lightbulbs for years now, day in and day out, and I think it's something that's in my blood. I've always wanted to change lightbulbs since I was a little kid and now I wouldn't have it any other way. Here -- lemme take a look at that....

[ckaihatsu]

How many artists (art-ists) does it take to change a lightbulb?

I've had darkness in my life before. There have been several occurrences, each more meaningful than the previous one. I find that darkness brings a new sensitivity each time and transports me back to the timeline of experiences that only take place in darkness, and nowhere else. I pick up where I left off each time, renewing the continuity of my life in the dark. It's never the same yet all of the episodes are spontaneous, rarely planned or intentional, and seem to find me rather than me finding them. Even so they're welcome houseguests and I invite them in, though they're already here, and then I pour some tea. We talk about our journeys, the darkness and I, since we last spent time together, and catch up on the world of the night, of the windowless, of the lightbulbless. Too many just use it for sleep, for watching TV, or think of it as an accident that must be fixed. But those without busy schedules, extravagances, or spare lightbulbs know of the world that visits me when it tires of seeing me in my regular skin.

[Martin Blank]

How many RevLeft admins does it take to change a light bulb?

All 13:...


1 to start a thread in the Admin Forum about the light bulb being out;
3 to agree the light bulb is out and ask for suggestions about how to change it;
2 to suggest the light bulb is out because of trolls;
2 to denounce the previous two as wanting a witchhunt;
1 to start a poll about how to change the light bulb;
2 to denounce the 2 accusing others of a witchhunt;
1 to demand an opinion from Malte/Edelweiss on how to change the light bulb; and
1 (Malte/Edelweiss) to actually change the light bulb.

[Manifesto]

how many libertarians does it take to change a lightbulb?

None. The invisible hand does it :laugh:
lmao!!!

[Black Sheep]

how many stalinohoxhaists does it t-
BOGOVITCH.

[EvilRedGuy]

How many The Vegan Marxists does it take to introduce me to The Venus Project?

Only one, thanks TVM.

[EvilRedGuy]

How many Primitivists does it take to change a lightbulb?

FUCK YOU TECHNOLOGY IS EVIL!

[ckaihatsu]

How many abstentionists does it take to change a lightbulb?

The literature around lightbulb-changing is vast and varied.


How many obscurantists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Hmmmmmm, seems kinda tricky there -- at some point in history there may have been people who could have done it....

[Pirate Utopian]

How many Vegan Marxists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Lightbulb made dead by the cappies
Now I make a furious poem because the situation is crappy
Sometimes I wanna go like FARC
Because I'm rebel who lights the single spark
I drink soy milk not crack
And write poorly written poems about Joseph Stack
Is this a poem, is this a song?
Who cares. EZLN, Shining Path, Immortal Tech. Fuck the pentagon.
But don't worry about the lights
I can still make youtube videos in the darkness of the night

[4 Leaf Clover]

owned :D

[ckaihatsu]

How many autarkists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Our great nation has more than enough bountiful resources with which to change the lightbulb.


How many idealists does it take to change a lightbulb?

The will of the people will gradually swell into a rising tide that changes the lightbulb.


How many emotionalists does it take to change a lightbulb?

What we need is a movement of passion here, people -- one that will make a sea change in how lightbulbs are seen by the public. We need do-ers to go out there and let people know what's going on -- this isn't a time to be complacent or apathetic. It's only by spreading awareness that we can make a difference in our communities, and for our friends and neighbors -- one that will be appreciated by our families for generations to come.


How many activists does it take to change a lightbulb?

As many as possible.

[Amphictyonis]

how many fabians does it take to change a lighbulb?

infinite. they will slowly fill the room with candles to influence it to change, but it will never change.

John Maynard Keynes will simply snap his finger and the lights will go on. Like the resurrection of christ. A holy communion of blinding light that Edison and Tesla would admire. Keynes is the light. Like scientology.

[Niccolò Rossi]

How many fat powerlifters does it take to change a lightbulb?

One fat powerlifter to change the lightbulb, three fat powerlifters to spot him and one fat powerlifter to film the attempt.

Nic.

[Il Medico]

How many Vegan Marxists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Lightbulb made dead by the cappies
Now I make a furious poem because the situation is crappy
Sometimes I wanna go like FARC
Because I'm rebel who lights the single spark
I drink soy milk not crack
And write poorly written poems about Joseph Stack
Is this a poem, is this a song?
Who cares. EZLN, Shining Path, Immortal Tech. Fuck the pentagon.
But don't worry about the lights
I can still make youtube videos in the darkness of the night
As a poem, that's wretched. As a lolz maker, it's fucking beautiful. :laugh:

[ZeroNowhere]

How many Vegan Marxists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Lightbulb made dead by the cappies
Now I make a furious poem because the situation is crappy
Sometimes I wanna go like FARC
Because I'm rebel who lights the single spark
I drink soy milk not crack
And write poorly written poems about Joseph Stack
Is this a poem, is this a song?
Who cares. EZLN, Shining Path, Immortal Tech. Fuck the pentagon.
But don't worry about the lights
I can still make youtube videos in the darkness of the night
I come from a city where the dogs don't bite,
And the cops are cool, and the work is light,
And we stack our rubbish and deposit pee
All on the heads of the bourgeoisie.

This could do with less rap and more Carroll.

There are fields where restless tigers sleep
In meadows grey, with borograves
And jagged tigers slint with sleighs,
Which radiate the Milky Way,
And make our lives, and fuel our days
With alabaster, silken maize,
And anger; fuck the bourgeoisie!

[Pirate Utopian]

As a poem, that's wretched. As a lolz maker, it's fucking beautiful. :laugh:
Intentionally wretched.
Read his blog he has on here. You'll get it.

[ZeroNowhere]

Intentionally wretched.
Read his blog he has on here. You'll get it.
Yes, it was brilliant.

[4 Leaf Clover]

how many hoxaist does it take to change a light-bulb

none , who changes light-bulb is traitor to communism

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how many zionists does it take to change a lightbulb ?
we are not zionists , we only think israel has right to exist

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[Le Libérer]

How many RevLeft admins does it take to change a light bulb?

All 13:...


1 to start a thread in the Admin Forum about the light bulb being out;
3 to agree the light bulb is out and ask for suggestions about how to change it;
2 to suggest the light bulb is out because of trolls;
2 to denounce the previous two as wanting a witchhunt;
1 to start a poll about how to change the light bulb;
2 to denounce the 2 accusing others of a witchhunt;
1 to demand an opinion from Malte/Edelweiss on how to change the light bulb; and
1 (Malte/Edelweiss) to actually change the light bulb.


:lol::lol::thumbup: Awesome.

[Bright Banana Beard]

I missed Charles Xavier. :crying:

[EvilRedGuy]

Then go watch the X-Men movies, he only dies in the last one.

[ckaihatsu]

How many entryists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Enough to get one or more seats on the board of directors at the lightbulb manufacturing company, so as to draw mass attention to the company's non-lightbulb-changing service policy.


How many alarmists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Without light we're all gonna die!!!

[ckaihatsu]

How many meme-ists does it take to change a lightbulb?

As many as 7 billion or more -- everyone will gradually perceive a subtle influence on their thinking that makes them realize that they're now in the dark. Random, non-semantic cues filtered around will gradually accumulate in people's minds, bringing them to lightbulb-changing consciousness.


How many purists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Precisely one.

[Chris]

How many capitalists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Trick question. Capitalists only knows how to screw the proletariat.

[ckaihatsu]

How many substitutionists does it take to change a lightbulb?

However many neighbors there are around to do it.


How many individualists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Whichever one prevails.


How many lifestylists does it take to change a lightbulb?

It really should be a black light.


How many hedonists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Let's have an orgy in the dark!









(Not to be confused with yours truly, of course....)

[ckaihatsu]

How many theorists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A new lightbulb, screwed into the socket, would enable us to produce light again.


How many empiricists does it take to change a lightbulb?

There is currently no light being produced by that lightbulb.

[Blackscare]

How many hitchhikers to the galaxy does it take to change the lightbulb?

42


Best.


How many Posadists does it take to change a lightbulb?


None, the Socialist Aliens will do it for us.

[Pirate Utopian]

Some Most of these are really shit.

[ckaihatsu]

How many separatists does it take to change a lightbulb?

An infinite number, only limited by how many other lightbulbs can be laid claim to.


How many interventionists does it take to change a lightbulb?

As many as just heard the news that the lightbulb went out and felt the call to action.

( -- or -- )

Storm the room! That lightbulb must be changed now!!

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

You really aren't funny Ckaihatsu, why don't you go make more incomprehensible diagrams.

[ckaihatsu]

You really aren't funny Ckaihatsu, why don't you go make more incomprehensible diagrams.


Neither are you -- why don't you try to understand that this listing is *instructive* and not *merely* humorous.... Try to comprehend that the 'lightbulb' analogy (to proletarian revolution) allows for many political orientations to be described simply and succinctly.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Ckaihatsu:


How many dialectical materialists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Two. The first one will note that the lightbulb has burnt out, and the second one will negate that by saying that the lightbulb is still lit. From the thesis and its antithesis the two will arrive at the synthesis that the lightbulb is no longer a lightbulb. The availability of a replacement lightbulb will be determined by the class struggle, specifically which side of the class division is in control of society's surplus. The class war will continue longer than anyone had predicted, with ideologues on both sides trumpeting prematurely that history had already resolved this contradiction. The status of the lightbulb changing project is as yet undetermined.

Wrong -- the answer is: none at all, the light bulb changes itself.:)

[4 Leaf Clover]

How many anti-dialectics does it take to change a lightbulb ?

There is no such things as a lightbulb , perceived mysticism

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

Neither are you -- why don't you try to understand that this listing is *instructive* and not *merely* humorous.... Try to comprehend that the 'lightbulb' analogy (to proletarian revolution) allows for many political orientations to be described simply and succinctly.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[ckaihatsu]

What the fuck is wrong with you?


I'll bet *you* have an answer...!

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

I'll bet *you* have an answer...!

No, *I* don't.

[Pirate Utopian]

How many ckaihatsu does it take to change a lightbulb?

See *this* diagram:

[Quail]

How many ckaihatsu does it take to change a lightbulb?

See *this* diagram:
:lol::lol:

[manic expression]

How many capitalists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Trick question. Capitalists only knows how to screw the proletariat.
:thumbup1: I like.

[ckaihatsu]

How many fetishists does it take to change a lightbulb?

The lightbulb is the only thing that matters.


How many xenophobists does it take to change a lightbulb?

The new lightbulb can only come from one of our own.

[La Comédie Noire]

I read this entire thread instead of working on my final paper for Literature. I hope you're all satisfied.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

4-Leaf:


How many anti-dialectics does it take to change a lightbulb ?

There is no such things as a lightbulb, perceived mysticism

Wrong.

Answer: just one -- it's rather easy in fact.:)

[Instructions supplied on request.]

[Pirate Utopian]

How many opportunists does it take to change a lightbulb?

What we really need to look at here is why lightbulb-changers are being demonized. Plenty of fine, regular people -- friends of mine, in fact -- have changed lightbulbs all their lives and they're not the ones who should have fingers pointed at them when a lightbulb burns out. They're the ones who have been in the trenches of lightbulb-changing and could tell you some stories about exactly what it takes to change a lightbulb. It's not about how many it takes to change a lightbulb, it's about who really has the heart and soul for doing the job, and doing it right.


How many populists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Only the one that the people of this great country have overwhelmingly chosen as their own, to cast aside the darkness and usher in a new era of enlightened, brave living. It will be a bright, radiant light for all of the middle class families with both parents working, raising their kids, and still managing to save a little something on the side for a rainy day. Our country will be blessed by this light, and we will move forward as one people to say no to ignorance, hatred, and fear. All it takes is the hope that change can happen.


How many bureaucrats does it take to change a lightbulb?

Oh, you want Phil, down the hall -- okay, go out this door, take a right, then a left at the end of the hallway, and it's the third door on your left there. Tell him I sent you, and he'll have that wrapped up for you in no time. Just make sure to ask him for form DZ-7592 -- now you're going to fill that out legibly in black ink only, and get hardcopies to this office here, to Phil's department, and to the area region head. That office complex is just one town over, right off of I-930. So you're going to want to leave out the building, hang a left there at Sheldon Road, get on I-930, and then get off two exits later at Havenson, make a right, and it'll be the second driveway on your right there. The region head is a new guy, name of Bern, who comes to us from Hellen's group that covers the whole state -- now I heard that Bern is a no-nonsense kind of manager, which is good for you because once that paperwork clears that region office will have that lightbulb changed faster than you can think "jet-ski". Have a good day and thank you for choosing your local lightbulb changing service facility!


How many community activists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Oh, hey, you're in luck -- we have a lightbulb-changing festival coming up in just three weeks! Yeah, everyone's involved, and it's just so much fun every year! We've got lightbulb-shaped cookies and yellow punch for the kids -- cute, right? Yvonne does the best papier-mâché lightbulb lanterns which look just great in the dining room -- it's even better than a dimmer switch, if you can imagine. Now here's some informational literature about lightbulb-changing -- it's from last year's festival, so it might be a little dated, but just come on the 26th and you can get the latest one. We also feature a terrific lightbulb-changing troupe -- they're going to be coming in from out-of-state, if you can believe it, and they are absolutely phenomenal. I just don't know how they do it so quickly and easily -- it's like an art form with them, and I can barely figure out how to get the darn thing out of the package in the first place. Usually it's my kids -- yeah, I got two kids, there's Angie, she's five, and Tom, of course, he's already four! They're so good with technical things like lightbulbs -- it impresses the heck out of me and makes me so proud. I can't even get one of those packages open without Angie and Tom just springing into action with the stepladder and doing it. Anyway, we're going to have an organizing meeting tomorrow for the festival and we'd love if you could make it and see what you have to say about everything. Could always catch up afterwards and take care of that, uh, other thing we used to do all the time! Yeah, hope you can make it! See you then!


How many non-political people does it take to change a lightbulb?

Okay, guys, let's take care of this real quick and then we'll get back to that pizza and those beers! Yeah, so the thing burnt out some time last night 'cause I found it this morning when I brought my first load down and hit the switch and then nothing. So Jake, are you good with getting up on a ladder to take the old one out? No, I'm not implying anything by that -- why do you ask? You know me better than that -- I never imply stuff about people, least of all you. Well, okay, yeah, that one time last spring, but that was about it -- yeah, you got me on that one, all right. So, anyway, the ladder's over-- what? You'd rather screw the new one in? But then Joan has to haul the ladder into place and screw the old one out. She's never going to do that because of her nails -- you know that, Jake. You just want the credit for screwing the new one in, isn't that it, really? And then you just make us ladies do all of the crap while you look good. No, don't try to deny it, Jake -- I know how you are. You're not going to get your way this time because I have to do laundry and I need the light on down there. So man up here and show your kids what responsibility looks like, Jake. This is what the new lightbulb looks like -- it's the energy saver kind that cost a bit more but there was a rebate coupon special on TV that I called in for and I just made the cut-off so that was 75 cents at the store right there. Joan! Joan, are you ready, dear? Jake's going to get the old one out and you can screw the new one in. Why did I say "screw"? I don't know, dear, what else would you call it? "Turn" the new lightbulb in? No, I didn't mean anything by "screw" -- are you okay, Joan? Yes, if you'd like me to say "replace" instead I can say that -- would you 'replace' the old one that Jake's going to remove with this new one, then? Okay, I think we're just about ready to go here....


How many revolutionary defeatists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Are you sure the old lightbulb can be removed?


How many social workers does it take to change a lightbulb?

We've got the new lightbulb right here, but first why don't you tell us a little about your personal history?


How many dialectical materialists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Two. The first one will note that the lightbulb has burnt out, and the second one will negate that by saying that the lightbulb is still lit. From the thesis and its antithesis the two will arrive at the synthesis that the lightbulb is no longer a lightbulb. The availability of a replacement lightbulb will be determined by the class struggle, specifically which side of the class division is in control of society's surplus. The class war will continue longer than anyone had predicted, with ideologues on both sides trumpeting prematurely that history had already resolved this contradiction. The status of the lightbulb changing project is as yet undetermined.


How many psychologists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Think back to your first experience with lightbulbs. What do you remember about them? On this blank sheet of paper draw a picture of your emotions at that age when you interacted with your first lightbulb. Remember, you're going to have to want to change the lightbulb.


How many complexity theorists does it take to change a lightbulb?

The more complexity theorists tasked to the project, the better the results, up to a certain threshold beyond which there will be diminishing returns.


How many workerists does it take to change a lightbulb?

You're mistaken -- the lightbulb would never have gone out because it was constructed from materials made by the strongest raw muscle power and honest sweat of tirelessly laboring, strong-jawed resolute industrial workers. Decisively directing massive machinery to flawlessly execute the plans of their towering, indomitable designs, they produced, practically magically, a light-radiating globe unrivaled by any other creation in its ingenuity and beneficence to all of humankind. If the replacement of a lightbulb were actually necessary it would be accomplished in an awe-inspiring way by those same workers, demonstrating a combined force of will and ability unmatched by any other known force from nature or man. Celebrations would spontaneously erupt all over the world at the news of such an accomplishment and those on the street would naturally turn towards the other in the warmest embrace.


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How many Revlefters does it take to change a lightbulb?

http://www.revleft.com/vb/many-revlefters-does-t116932/index.html


How many armchairists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Well, the odds of the lightbulb being changed are about 50/50....


How many artists (art-ists) does it take to change a lightbulb?

I've had darkness in my life before. There have been several occurrences, each more meaningful than the previous one. I find that darkness brings a new sensitivity each time and transports me back to the timeline of experiences that only take place in darkness, and nowhere else. I pick up where I left off each time, renewing the continuity of my life in the dark. It's never the same yet all of the episodes are spontaneous, rarely planned or intentional, and seem to find me rather than me finding them. Even so they're welcome houseguests and I invite them in, though they're already here, and then I pour some tea. We talk about our journeys, the darkness and I, since we last spent time together, and catch up on the world of the night, of the windowless, of the lightbulbless. Too many just use it for sleep, for watching TV, or think of it as an accident that must be fixed. But those without busy schedules, extravagances, or spare lightbulbs know of the world that visits me when it tires of seeing me in my regular skin.


How many careerists does it take to change a lightbulb?

The thing is, it may look simple, but there's more to changing lightbulbs than meets the eye. You really have to have the proper education and training for it, and even then not everyone is cut out for it. You certainly can't leave it to a layman to figure out and attempt to do on their own. Fortunately I've been changing lightbulbs for years now, day in and day out, and I think it's something that's in my blood. I've always wanted to change lightbulbs since I was a little kid and now I wouldn't have it any other way. Here -- lemme take a look at that....


How many entryists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Enough to get one or more seats on the board of directors at the lightbulb manufacturing company, so as to draw mass attention to the company's non-lightbulb-changing service policy.


How many alarmists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Without light we're all gonna die!!!


How many meme-ists does it take to change a lightbulb?

As many as 7 billion or more -- everyone will gradually perceive a subtle influence on their thinking that makes them realize that they're now in the dark. Random, non-semantic cues filtered around will gradually accumulate in people's minds, bringing them to lightbulb-changing consciousness.


How many purists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Precisely one.


how many hoxaist does it take to change a light-bulb

none , who changes light-bulb is traitor to communism

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how many zionists does it take to change a lightbulb ?
we are not zionists , we only think israel has right to exist

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These are so bad they hurt.

[ckaihatsu]

How many dialectical materialists does it take to change a lightbulb?


Ckaihatsu:

Wrong -- the answer is: none at all, the light bulb changes itself.:)


The funny part about your unwarranted dismissiveness of dialectical materialism is that, in the process of giving your incoherent critique to it, you are in fact participating *in* a dialectical process -- you're providing the 'antithesis' to the preceding 'thesis', though yours isn't well-grounded enough to make comparisons or departures from it.





See *this* diagram:


(It's a self-portrait, actually.)


= D

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

ckaihatsu:


The funny part about your unwarranted dismissiveness of dialectical materialism is that, in the process of giving your incoherent critique to it, you are in fact participating *in* a dialectical process -- you're providing the 'antithesis' to the preceding 'thesis', though yours isn't well-grounded enough to make comparisons or departures from it.

That's about as brainless as arguing that if a doctor fights a certain disease, she must also be spreading it.:lol:

And, of course, the ancient meaning of 'dialectic' (before Hegel got hold of it and perverted it) did involve counter-argument, but I use it to assist in the demise of the entire subject.

And if my demolition of this 'theory' is "incoherent", as you allege, then you should find it easy to say where I go wrong.

But, just like other mystics here, who similarly posture and beat their chests, when it comes to evidence and argument, you go rather quiet.

Of course, you can easily prove me wrong by nipping over to Philosophy and putting me in my place. It's about time someone did...:)

[ckaihatsu]

That's about as brainless as arguing that if a doctor fights a certain disease, she must also be spreading it.:lol:


No, your analogy is inaccurate -- the idea of the dialectic is that, in the forward motion of time, there will first be a [1] thesis. Relating to the thesis, but differing from it, possibly diametrically, is an [2] antithesis. From the interaction of these two components there is a result that differs from both but is influenced by both, the [3] synthesis.

If I posit that [1] dialectical materialism exists, and then you [2] dismiss its validity, that is the same thing as the [1] thesis and its [2] antithesis -- the dialectical process. I don't know what the [3] synthesis might be here, but, given the prevailing seasonal holiday mood, I think I'm really not that interested in it...!


= )





But, just like other mystics here, who similarly posture and beat their chests, when it comes to evidence and argument, you go rather quiet.


*Not* a mystic, though I *am* good at chest-beating, thanks -- I have a daily calisthenics routine....





And if my demolition of this 'theory' is "incoherent", as you allege, then you should find it easy to say where I go wrong.


Let's just say that I'll entertain an initial assertion here, if you'd like to advance one.

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/halolz-dot-com-pokemon-professoroak-isyourmothersingle.jpg

This thread is now about Prof Oak's attempts to sleep with Ash's mother.

Not some boring ass-debate between Lichtenstein and ckaihatsu, take that to philiosophy, or theory, were ever you peeps hang out, discussing irrelevent things.

[ckaihatsu]

Not some boring ass-debate between Lichtenstein and ckaihatsu


Yes, our asses are now locked into mortal combat....


= D

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

ckaihatsu:


No, your analogy is inaccurate -- the idea of the dialectic is that, in the forward motion of time, there will first be a [1] thesis. Relating to the thesis, but differing from it, possibly diametrically, is an [2] antithesis. From the interaction of these two components there is a result that differs from both but is influenced by both, the [3] synthesis.

If I posit that [1] dialectical materialism exists, and then you [2] dismiss its validity, that is the same thing as the [1] thesis and its [2] antithesis -- the dialectical process. I don't know what the [3] synthesis might be here, but, given the prevailing seasonal holiday mood, I think I'm really not that interested in it...!

But this isn't even 'the dialectical method'; it's Kant's and Fichte's method, not Hegel's or Marx's.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=707195&postcount=7

And I have never dismissed the 'validity' of 'dialectical materialism' [DM], as you'd know if you read my posts with half the care you devote to examining your navel.

What I have shown is that this 'theory' is far too confused for anyone to be able to say whether or not it's valid.

So, no 'anti-thesis' from me. Just scorched earth where Hegel's loopy theory, and DM, used to be.


*Not* a mystic,

I'm glad to hear you have given DM up...:)


though I *am* good at chest-beating, thanks -- I have a daily calisthenics routine....

Yes, you seem rather good at tying yourself in knots.


Let's just say that I'll entertain an initial assertion here, if you'd like to advance one.

I wasn't aware you were an entertainer.

In that case, all I can say is "Don't give up your day job...".

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Comrade Wolfie:


were ever you peeps hang out, discussing irrelevent things.

Yes, Chit Chat is so relevant...:rolleyes:

[Bright Banana Beard]

Chit-chat is damn popular, even we demands to bring back it life in 2008.

[ckaihatsu]

But this isn't even 'the dialectical method'; it's Kant's and Fichte's method, not Hegel's or Marx's.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=707195&postcount=7





In classical philosophy, dialectic (Greek: διαλεκτική) is a form of reasoning based on the exchange of arguments and counter-arguments, advocating propositions (theses) and counter-propositions (antitheses). The outcome of such an exchange might be the refutation of one of the relevant points of view, or a synthesis or combination of the opposing assertions, or at least a qualitative transformation in the direction of the dialogue.[11][12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic





And I have never dismissed the 'validity' of 'dialectical materialism' [DM], as you'd know if you read my posts with half the care you devote to examining your navel.


No need to get jealous of my navel, though this wouldn't be a first.... (It's an "innie", btw. Happy now?)

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

Comrade Wolfie:



Yes, Chit Chat is so relevant...:rolleyes:

It's not. It's for posting stupid shit that makes people laugh. Take you debate and fuck off to somewhere where you can circle-jerk eachother in peace.

[bricolage]

These are so bad they hurt.
I agree.

[ckaihatsu]

These are so bad they hurt.


They kinda *stay* with you like a twisted ankle, don't they...?!


x D

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

They kinda *stay* with you like a twisted ankle, don't they...?!


x D

No. More like crippling emotional trauma that affects you for the rest of your life. Atleast they aren't eye melting like your 'diagrams'.

[ckaihatsu]

No. More like crippling emotional trauma that affects you for the rest of your life. Atleast they aren't eye melting like your 'diagrams'.


Welcome to politics, Wolfie. *Someone* had to say it -- may as well be you...(!) Remember, I'm just the messenger...!


= D

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

Welcome to politics, Wolfie. *Someone* had to say it -- may as well be you...(!) Remember, I'm just the messenger...!


= D

Your not though.

[Pirate Utopian]

They kinda *stay* with you like a twisted ankle, don't they...?!


x D
No luckily they are also intirely forgettable because there's no way you want to remember these jokes to tell to friends or whatever.

[ckaihatsu]

Only allowed posthumous activity by you two, huh? Do I at least get to write an epigram for my own tombstone?


x D

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

Only allowed posthumous activity by you two, huh? Do I at least get to write an epigram for my own tombstone?


x D

No you'd fill it with asterisks unessicarly.

[ckaihatsu]

No you'd fill it with asterisks unessicarly.


(That's pretty funny, actually.)(Congrats on finally getting one...!)

[ckaihatsu]

How many tokenists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Only one, out of the entire general population.


How many Blanqui-ists does it take to change a lightbulb?

You'll never know.

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

How many tokenists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Only one, out of the entire general population.


How many Blanqui-ists does it take to change a lightbulb?

You'll never know.

How many shit jokes can ckaihatsu make before Comrade Wolfie hunts him down and jabs a screwdriver through his eye-socket.

One more, you un-funny prick.

[John "Eh" MacDonald]

How many shit jokes can ckaihatsu make before Comrade Wolfie hunts him down and jabs a screwdriver through his eye-socket.

One more, you un-funny prick.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

that's gotta be the best one yet.

[ckaihatsu]

How many shit jokes can ckaihatsu make before Comrade Wolfie hunts him down and jabs a screwdriver through his eye-socket.

One more, you un-funny prick.


Congrats -- you just took yourself off my short list for president of my fan club. Sure hope you got people in the States for that, uh, other thing....


x D

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

Congrats -- you just took yourself off my short list for president of my fan club. Sure hope you got people in the States for that, uh, other thing....


x D

Sir, I would happily pay the expenses of travelling to Chicago if it ment I would never see another one of your shit jokes, or your poorly-formated posts, or one of your incomprensable diagrams.

[ckaihatsu]

Sir, I would happily pay the expenses of travelling to Chicago if it ment I would never see another one of your shit jokes, or your poorly-formated posts, or one of your incomprensable diagrams.


Okay, tell ya what -- I'll message you just before I'm about to leave Chicago on vacation -- then you can leave *there* and come *here* to enjoy the city on your own terms without there being the *slightest* chance of running into me.

Okay, so *that*, plus...*unsubscribe* from *this* thread, and if you see my avatar peeking up from any *other* posts on any other threads just fucking skip them and don't read them...(!) (Jesus...!)

[Pirate Utopian]

How many tokenists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Only one, out of the entire general population.


How many Blanqui-ists does it take to change a lightbulb?

You'll never know.
Ugh. Just stop.

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

Okay, tell ya what -- I'll message you just before I'm about to leave Chicago on vacation -- then you can leave *there* and come *here* to enjoy the city on your own terms without there being the *slightest* chance of running into me.

Okay, so *that*, plus...*unsubscribe* from *this* thread, and if you see my avatar peeking up from any *other* posts on any other threads just fucking skip them and don't read them...(!) (Jesus...!)

Well how would I get to wound you mortally, if you're not in Chicago? That'd take all the fun out of my trip. Then I can go to NYC and watch Fawkes go increasingly insane.

You managed to bring this crap up again, with your tedious 'Jokes' which have been largely decried as shitty by the boards, I'm going to hassle you until you stop posting in this thread, and then hopefully the boards.

[ckaihatsu]

How many religionists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Our whole community needs to call for divine guidance to dispel the darkness and bring forth the holy light anew. We cannot forsake the heritage that has been granted us from the heavens above. The path will be illuminated for us if only we can find the humility and fortitude that will bring us into the fertile, radiant pastures. We will give thanks and forgiveness for the glories of glowing filaments while we spread the Word of Light.


How many propagandists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Each and every one of us needs to do our part to make a brighter future possible for the children and for generations to come. It is only through serious reflection and honest self-criticism that we can realize how to crush the oppressive forces of darkness, to stand together on the correct path to an enlightened collective radiant power. The gangster imperialists will be held to their crimes against the masses, as they have treated us as little better than savage animals, kept in chains in the forest of perpetual night. Our glorious leadership will bring forth a new dawn to the valley, showering all in the brilliant guiding light of knowledge and industry to benefit all of mankind.

[El Rojo]

ugh i fucking hate teamsters, if they are what i think they are. did you know teamsters used to mean lorry drivers? tragic

these days in the UK guys are wearing fatigued immitation vintage military boots with all the laces undone. its looks fucking stupid walking round with unlaced boots, and i dislike these people on sight

[Lyev]

Personally I like ckaihatsu. I like his posts and jokes, keep it up! I'd happily come to Chicago to see *you*, ckaihatsu!

[ckaihatsu]

Personally I like ckaihatsu. I like his posts and jokes, keep it up! I'd happily come to Chicago to see *you*, ckaihatsu!


Huh! Well, cool, but too bad you're also a guy...!


= )

[ckaihatsu]

How many contrarians does it take to change a lightbulb?

The lightbulb isn't burnt out.


How many escapists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Are you sure we need a new lightbulb?


How many revolutionary delayists does it take to change a lightbulb?

We'll know the answer by the year 2090, at the earliest.

[Pirate Utopian]

Ugh. Let this thread die. Stop keeping it alive with your weak excuses for humor.

[ckaihatsu]

Ugh. Let this thread die. Stop keeping it alive with your weak excuses for humor.


Oh, yeah, thanks for reminding me -- I forgot to include the disclaimer:

* Consumption of this content when mistaking it for actual humor may result in strain, discomfort, and possible injury. *

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

ckaihatsu (quoting me and then Wikki):



But this isn't even 'the dialectical method'; it's Kant's and Fichte's method, not Hegel's or Marx's.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.p...95&postcount=7



In classical philosophy, dialectic (Greek: διαλεκτική) is a form of reasoning based on the exchange of arguments and counter-arguments, advocating propositions (theses) and counter-propositions (antitheses). The outcome of such an exchange might be the refutation of one of the relevant points of view, or a synthesis or combination of the opposing assertions, or at least a qualitative transformation in the direction of the dialogue.[11][12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic

Thanks for that, but how does that show this is Hegel's 'dialectic'? Moreover, Wikki has neatly, and anachronistically, read back into ancient philosphy categories derived from Kant. On that basis, you might just as well call, say, the ancient Greek high jump 'space research'.:lol:


No need to get jealous of my navel, though this wouldn't be a first.... (It's an "innie", btw. Happy now?)

In fact, I'm far more jealous of your capacity to miss the point.

Wish I could do that...

[ckaihatsu]

Thanks for that, but how does that show this is Hegel's 'dialectic'?


It is what it is.

= |





In fact, I'm far more jealous of your capacity to miss the point.

Wish I could do that...


Uh-huh -- cute. Go ahead and put forth some obscure, obtuse argument that no one wants to respond to anyway and then pout about how "everyone" is "missing the point".... Time to wrap up the tea party when you're the only one playing...!

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

ckaihatsu:


It is what it is.

Ah, a late convert to the dread 'law of identity', I see.


Uh-huh -- cute. Go ahead and put forth some obscure, obtuse argument that no one wants to respond to anyway and then pout about how "everyone" is "missing the point"....

No need to, your expertise in this area is already clear for all to see.


Time to wrap up the tea party when you're the only one playing...!

And that's why it's not time to 'wrap up'...:)

Ooopps. Is that an antithesis?

[ckaihatsu]

In classical philosophy, dialectic (Greek: διαλεκτική) is a form of reasoning based on the exchange of arguments and counter-arguments, advocating propositions (theses) and counter-propositions (antitheses). The outcome of such an exchange might be the refutation of one of the relevant points of view, or a synthesis or combination of the opposing assertions, or at least a qualitative transformation in the direction of the dialogue.[11][12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic





Thanks for that, but how does that show this is Hegel's 'dialectic'?





It is what it is.

= |





Ah, a late convert to the dread 'law of identity', I see.


Your charm precedes you, but -- as usual -- when faced with a direct statement you'd prefer to interpret it at a tangent, thus producing an obtuse answer to the point being extended. This does not make for 'good faith' conversations....

My *point* in saying "it is what it is" -- to spell it out for you -- is that I wasn't *attempting* to engage in a discussion or an argument over the definition of Hegel's dialectic. Instead I reproduced the *classic* definition of 'dialectic', which covers the whole thesis-antithesis-synthesis thing -- more than sufficient for working purposes.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

ckaihatsu:


Your charm precedes you, but -- as usual -- when faced with a direct statement you'd prefer to interpret it at a tangent, thus producing an obtuse answer to the point being extended. This does not make for 'good faith' conversations....

So, you don't deny you are a late convert to the dread 'law of identity'? I was merely guessing before. Now we know.:lol:

And, as far as 'good faith' is concerned, you are the one who peppers 'his' comments about me with personal attacks.


My *point* in saying "it is what it is" -- to spell it out for you -- is that I wasn't *attempting* to engage in a discussion or an argument over the definition of Hegel's dialectic. Instead I reproduced the *classic* definition of 'dialectic', which covers the whole thesis-antithesis-synthesis thing -- more than sufficient for working purposes.

And in support you quoted an article with an egregious anachronism in it.

[ZeroNowhere]

Oh God, this thread, it's just...

Ugh.

[ckaihatsu]

So, you don't deny you are a late convert to the dread 'law of identity'? I was merely guessing before. Now we know.:lol:


No, you're purposely misinterpreting my meaning....





I wasn't *attempting* to engage in a discussion or an argument over the definition of Hegel's dialectic.





And, as far as 'good faith' is concerned, you are the one who peppers 'his' comments about me with personal attacks.


No, I haven't made any personal attacks.





And in support you quoted an article with an egregious anachronism in it.


If you like....





Oh God, this thread, it's just...

Ugh.


* Unsubscribe now! *

[Manic Impressive]

what the hell happened to this thread?

I thought it was about silly light bulb jokes

[ZeroNowhere]

* Unsubscribe now! * No shut up you're just making things worse goddamnit.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

ckaihatsu:


No, you're purposely misinterpreting my meaning....

So, your meaning is your meaning, then?

In which case, you are still a late convert to the dread 'law of identity'...

Ckaihatsu, before he was rumbled:


The funny part about your unwarranted dismissiveness of dialectical materialism is that, in the process of giving your incoherent critique to it, you are in fact participating *in* a dialectical process -- you're providing the 'antithesis' to the preceding 'thesis', though yours isn't well-grounded enough to make comparisons or departures from it.

After:


No, I haven't made any personal attacks.

Can we now expect a negation of this negation?


If you like....

It's anachronistic whether I like it or not.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Manic:


what the hell happened to this thread?

I thought it was about silly light bulb jokes

It's now 'dialectically' morphed into "How many mystics does it take to change this thread?"

Answer: one.

[ckaihatsu]

No shut up you're just making things worse goddamnit.


Okay, I'll put down *my* keyboard if everybody else puts down *their* keyboards...!


x D

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Z:


Oh God, this thread, it's just...

Ugh.

Stop using my proper name...:mad:

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

ckaihatsu:


Okay, I'll put down *my* keyboard if everybody else puts down *their* keyboards...!

Ok, your keyboard is rubbish.

Or did I misunderstand you?

[Obs]

I got to about page 2, then skipped to the last page.

I went from lame light bulb jokes to Rosa Lichtenstein ranting against dialectics while ckaihatsu quotes himself.

This fucking thread.

[ckaihatsu]

So, in the interests of bringing this to a stop can we say that you've felt misinterpreted by me, and that I've felt misinterpreted by you -- ?

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Obs:


I went from lame light bulb jokes to Rosa Lichtenstein ranting against dialectics while ckaihatsu quotes himself.

I never ranted in my life.

Are you sure you know what the word means?

[Obs]

OK

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

ckaihatsu:


So, in the interests of bringing this to a stop can we say that you've felt misinterpreted by me, and that I've felt misinterpreted by you -- ?

No.

[Manic Impressive]

Rosa makes my brain hurt

[ZeroNowhere]

Z:

Oh God, this thread, it's just...

Ugh.
Stop using my proper name...:mad:
I'm sorry, I forgot that we were prohibited from taking your name in vain.


Okay, I'll put down *my* keyboard if everybody else puts down *their* keyboards...!Alternatively, *we* could just have *your* keyboard 'put down', and this would go a long way towards ameliorating the present situation, all things considered.

[ckaihatsu]

No.


Do you want to bring this thread's exchanges to a halt?

[Pirate Utopian]

When you thought this thread couldn't get worse Rosa makes it even more boring.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

^^^And you send it onto limbo.:(

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Ckaihatsu:


Do you want to bring this thread's exchanges to a halt?

Only if you stop asking questions.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Z:


I'm sorry, I forgot that we were prohibited from taking your name in vain.

Say 15 'Hail Rosas' and sin no more.


Alternatively, *we* could just have *your* keyboard 'put down', and this would go a long way towards ameliorating the present situation, all things considered.

It's the only immortal keyboard in the Galaxy, so good luck with that one...

[Sir Comradical]

I've enjoyed the flaming...

Anyway, how many North Koreans does it take to change a light-bulb?

1 to change the light-bulb.
120 composers, musicians and singers to dedicate a song to the dear-leader praising the changing of the light-bulb.
120 composers, musicians and singers to produce a song condemning South Korea and the United States for attempting to sabotage the changing of the light-bulb.