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The Red Next Door
13th October 2010, 22:18
Anyone of Native AmericaN decent? I am cherokee.
Martin Blank
13th October 2010, 22:25
My wife is Lakotah.
coda
14th October 2010, 06:14
part Mohawk
praxis1966
14th October 2010, 19:14
You'd never know it to look at me, but I'm part Penobscot. Looks like Solidarity Forever and I are gonna have to fight...
Ele'ill
14th October 2010, 19:24
part Dineh
Ele'ill
14th October 2010, 19:25
You'd never know it to look at me, but I'm part Penobscot. Looks like Solidarity Forever and I are gonna have to fight...
A North-Easterner eh?
Rusty Shackleford
14th October 2010, 19:41
a wee bit of Cherokee and Chippewa.
praxis1966
14th October 2010, 21:24
A North-Easterner eh?
Yeah... My mother's 1/4, which I guess makes me 1/8th. I'm as pasty as the day is long, but the lineage is there.
scarletghoul
14th October 2010, 21:51
I fancy a girl whos 1/8th native merican but she doesnt care
Stand Your Ground
14th October 2010, 23:00
I am, not sure what tribe though.
Magón
14th October 2010, 23:22
I've got Mayan in me, Mexican Native American. Or so my grandparents on my fathers side always led me to believe. And I do believe it somewhat seeing where my father's side of the family came from in Mexico, and how some of my cousin's facial features are when looking at those with thick Mayan blood.
Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
15th October 2010, 00:06
I am decended from the Illuminati.
Os Cangaceiros
15th October 2010, 00:17
I guess somewhere down the line on my mother's side there's some Metis, but it's waaay back there. I'm definitely not one of those people who's all like, "Yeah bro, I'm one 1/256th native american, man."
praxis1966
15th October 2010, 00:21
I fancy a girl whos 1/8th native merican but she doesnt care
Don't make me kick you in your dangling participle. She doesn't care you fancy her or doesn't care she's 1/8th Native American?
black magick hustla
21st October 2010, 08:18
my grandfather was almost completely indigenous but idk who knows mexican bloodlines are a clusterfuck
Comrade B
21st October 2010, 20:24
Wee bit of Comanche, my great grandma lived on reservation a lot of her life or something, don't really know
Scary Monster
21st October 2010, 21:26
Why are there so many Cherokee? Everytime people say theyre mixed with somethin, its either that or Navajo :p
Anyhoo, im half Winnebago. My mum and her family are full blooded natives. The tribe is now called Ho-Chunk (yeah people make fun of the name a lot).
Robocommie
21st October 2010, 22:26
Why are there so many Cherokee? Everytime people say theyre mixed with somethin, its either that or Navajo :p
Two major reasons, both could be true to some extent.
1) The Cherokee weren't actually a single tribe so much as a large confederacy of tribes, similar to the Iroquois. It was a larger political entity, so there's a lot more Cherokee than there would be members of a more specific band.
2) The Cherokee were one of the "Five Civilized Tribes" who were viewed more favorably by whites because they adopted some white customs and practices. Some of them even owned black slaves. So it's possible that some Natives referred to themselves as Cherokee when they weren't, in order to come off better.
The third and most cynical reason? Whites love to have Native American ancestors. Love it. You will be hard pressed to find a white family tree in the United States that doesn't claim some kind of Indian ancestry. Vine Deloria Jr. talks about this in Custer Died For Your Sins. And because of reason #2, one of the favorite tribes to claim ancestry from are the Cherokee.
I actually have a claim of Asakiwaki ancestry somewhere in my own family tree, but because it's unsubstantiated, I don't claim it anymore due to reason #3. Someday I may go to Oklahoma, get the blood test done, and find out.
Bright Banana Beard
21st October 2010, 23:02
Lecan or Mayan peoples, but my bloodline is clusterfuck and they didn't keep a record of it.
Scary Monster
21st October 2010, 23:06
Two major reasons, both could be true to some extent.
1) The Cherokee weren't actually a single tribe so much as a large confederacy of tribes, similar to the Iroquois. It was a larger political entity, so there's a lot more Cherokee than there would be members of a more specific band.
2) The Cherokee were one of the "Five Civilized Tribes" who were viewed more favorably by whites because they adopted some white customs and practices. Some of them even owned black slaves. So it's possible that some Natives referred to themselves as Cherokee when they weren't, in order to come off better.
The third and most cynical reason? Whites love to have Native American ancestors. Love it. You will be hard pressed to find a white family tree in the United States that doesn't claim some kind of Indian ancestry. Vine Deloria Jr. talks about this in Custer Died For Your Sins. And because of reason #2, one of the favorite tribes to claim ancestry from are the Cherokee.
I actually have a claim of Asakiwaki ancestry somewhere in my own family tree, but because it's unsubstantiated, I don't claim it anymore due to reason #3. Someday I may go to Oklahoma, get the blood test done, and find out.
Thanks for the info. Lol i figured it is likely because white people just LOVE having some kind of relation with natives. Why is that?? Ive come across white people who are a little obsessed with native americans and i see more whites than natives at Pow-Wows :lol::lol:
Robocommie
21st October 2010, 23:35
Thanks for the info. Lol i figured it is likely because white people just LOVE having some kind of relation with natives. Why is that?? Ive come across white people who are a little obsessed with native americans and i see more whites than natives at Pow-Wows :lol::lol:
I guess it's interesting to them, it makes them feel like they have a touch of the exotic. Native Americans have been romanticized by whites for hundreds of years as the noble savage, and with the alienation of capitalism, I suppose people want something more "authentically human" in their life. Or the short answer, it's probably romanticism.
The white fascination with Indians sure as hell isn't new, Buffalo Bill was getting paid fat stacks of cash for his Wild West Shows back in Sitting Bull's day. Sitting Bull used to come out in front of white audiences and swear at them in the Lakota language to wild applause from the audience. lol
Comrade B
22nd October 2010, 18:36
Cool book on the American cultural obsession, though it is in the early 1900s, is Wildmen: Ishi and Kroeber in the Wilderness of Modern America by Douglas Sackman. It follows the life of Ishi, the last US Native American to live without contact with the US after he decides to enter US society and the antropologist who was trying research Ishi's culture, Kroeber. It also does a nice job of trashing Social Darwinism.
Raúl Duke
22nd October 2010, 21:46
I actually have a claim of Asakiwaki ancestry somewhere in my own family tree, but because it's unsubstantiated, I don't claim it anymore due to reason #3. Someday I may go to Oklahoma, get the blood test done, and find out.
Yeah I have a claim to some Canadian first nation group, but I don't know which group and it's just unsubstantiated/rumor.
Other than that, it's possible that I could have Arawak/Taino lineage but way way way far-back and it doesn't mean a thing because I know little of Taino culture.
NecroCommie
23rd October 2010, 20:17
I know this has nothing to do with native americans but here I am a 1/2 Saami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people).
Ligeia
23rd October 2010, 21:04
I'm half-mexican and my mexican side is definitely of native (mexican) american descent. In what degree and who,when,where...etc. ....who knows.
This quote summarizes it pretty well:
who knows mexican bloodlines are a clusterfuck
redsky
9th November 2010, 16:02
No known indigenous bloodline here, but as to the Mexican heritage thought: In Tijuana, on the first glorietta south on Paso Heroes there is a central statue we called The Scissors. Looks like two rising, semi-crossed blades. I was told it stands for the intertwining of native Mesoamerican and European cultures. Just to note- the second glorietta has Cuatehmoc(sp?) and the third Abraham Lincoln.
ChrisK
10th November 2010, 10:20
Part Senecan way the fuck back their. The last full blood being around the time of the American Revolution, then the Welshman got involved. Anyway, my grandpa claims we're direct descendents of Tanacharison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanacharison).
Il Medico
10th November 2010, 11:50
I have no idea. I only know for certain the ancestry of my grandmother's side on my father's side of the family, and only back to her father who came from Italy. So yeah, i could be, have no idea honestly.
My old neighbor was half German half Blackfoot, and looked Mexican. Never would of guessed he was part native if he didn't tell me.
Pavlov's House Party
10th November 2010, 13:22
part mohawk somewhere down the line
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