View Full Version : Are you Afraid of death??
leftist manson
12th October 2010, 09:54
As the title says...why or why not??
bcbm
12th October 2010, 10:43
i'm not sure. i'd like to avoid it as long as possible, though.
Rusty Shackleford
12th October 2010, 10:50
well, all i can say is id hate to die right now because too much exciting shit is in the future. how often do you live during a period or social upheaval? even if its not in my own country, its stirring.
exciting stuff.
Jimmie Higgins
12th October 2010, 10:53
I'm more afraid of dieing than being dead if that makes any sense.
Rusty Shackleford
12th October 2010, 10:59
I'm more afraid of dieing than being dead if that makes any sense.
this too.
ContrarianLemming
12th October 2010, 11:09
"I know the moment's near
and there's nothing we can do
look through a faithless eye
are you afraid to die?
It scares the hell out of me
and the end is all I can see
and it scares the hell out of me
and the end is all I can see"
"Thoughts of a dying atheist" Muse
EvilRedGuy
12th October 2010, 11:59
Being afriad is waste of time, especially against something that is very unlikely to happen and if it happened it would be too late. No, speculating/being afriad of death is something you shouldn't waste time on.
Il Medico
12th October 2010, 12:11
Dying is (unfortunately) an inevitability. There is no point being afraid of something that is going to happen, no matter what you do. Though, if it were possible, I would want to live for a real long fucking time. I'm really curious about what will happen after I die, and it is infuriating that I won't live to see it.
Dream Death: Personally, I'd like to live till the very end of the universe if I could. i'd watch all of history, civilizations rise and fall, and one by one the stars go out, and when the last flicking light disappeared, I would die with it. Dying with the universe, no better way imo.
Jazzratt
12th October 2010, 12:17
I'm afraid of dying. I don't like being in pain, it's just one of those quirky things I guess, and I fear the pain associated with most forms of natural death. Death itself, however, isn't at all frightening because when I go I'll just be gone.
Stand Your Ground
12th October 2010, 13:25
I'm afraid of dying. I don't like being in pain, it's just one of those quirky things I guess, and I fear the pain associated with most forms of natural death. Death itself, however, isn't at all frightening because when I go I'll just be gone.
This.
I'm just afraid I won't get to see the revolution before I go.:(
Tjis
12th October 2010, 14:33
I used to be, but I'm not afraid anymore.
The problem with fear of death is that it is not so much fear of death itself (as we have no direct experience of death). Instead it is fear of the idea of death: the mind wanders upon the subject of death and reacts with fear.
The way people usually deal with fear is either trying to prevent the thing they are afraid of, or avoid it. With death this is of course impossible, and this results in anxiety.
We have only limited control over what we think of. For example, when asked to NOT think of pink elephants, people have a hard time complying. Similarly, we can't avoid thinking about death all the time. When a loved one dies, or when we're confronted with death by the news, we can't help thinking about our own death.
Fear is irrational. Exposing that it is irrational doesn't make it go away. The only way to really overcome fear of death (which is fear of the idea of death) is to confront yourself with the idea until you stop being afraid. This is easy, but unpleasant. You'll have to think about what makes you afraid, imagine it vividly and feel how your fear rises and falls when you think about certain things. When you do this often over some time, eventually your fear will gradually disappear.
Quail
12th October 2010, 15:19
I don't like the idea of dying. I worry that my death will be slow and painful, or I'll die in some shameful way, but in the end, what does it matter? I won't know that I've died, and being dead won't be unpleasant.
NecroCommie
12th October 2010, 15:42
I have no problems with dying. I am however depressed shitless at the thought of purposless life, so that puts some preassure on the manner of death also.
Obs
12th October 2010, 15:46
Being afriad is waste of time, especially against something that is very unlikely to happen
Uh, I hate to break this to you, but...
Magón
12th October 2010, 15:50
What do I care? I'll be dead! :o
Seriously though, I'm not afraid of death. I've had several life threatening incidence in my life, and really I don't even think about death or dying. (Whichever way it may happen.) It's just apart of being what we are, and there's nothing that I know of in this world as of now, that can secure my true immortality. (If anyone knows of anything, please feel free to reply here or drop me a PM. :D) Even when I was a kid, I didn't fear death. I might have feared other people dying, but not death itself.
Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
12th October 2010, 17:14
I fear the judeo-communist plot to rule our lives.
Ele'ill
12th October 2010, 19:56
We only live this particular life once- there's no reason to be afraid.
When we die things at the very very most change- or perhaps there will be nothing at all.
As for the 'meaningless life' or 'meaningless existence' - I am the offspring of a Scottish waitress and Italian immigrant and was given up for adoption at birth. It was not a planned pregnancy- this gives me great comfort because every little success I achieve and the pieces of this world that I can help to make better mean that I'm making the most of things. This is a chance encounter that myself and this world are having- I'm like extra credit points in a tough college course.
I include the nationalities of my biological parents because I find their individual life paths to be inspiring.
I think the actual act of dying is different than we might imagine. I've had several close people die of cancer and I've had several that have lived through it and are now perfectly fine. It's very hard looking at imminent death from an outside perspective because there's no way to feel the person's emotions- everything is magnified times ten and no matter how hard we try we cannot come to terms with their death because it isn't OUR death. Not that either position is pleasant but when you're dying- from what I hear- it's easier to take than watching a loved one die.
Cliffnotes: I do not fear death because I am here by such chance.
Invincible Summer
12th October 2010, 20:34
Well, we were essentially born to die so I don't see why anyone should fear it. A really painful, torturous death possibly. But fear of not existing anymore is really just an ego-trip. Think about it, you were born out of random chance, so being obsessed with living "your" (what is oneself anyway) life is a form of narcissism, really. Not saying that it's terrible - it's very understandable to want to add to one's experience and self-identity - but an irrational fear of death or dying is just being way too involved in yourself.
Oh and I love any opportunity to plug the Litany Against Fear
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing......Only I will remain."
Ele'ill
12th October 2010, 22:49
the spice must flow?
Nuvem
12th October 2010, 23:00
We are not going to get out of this life alive. But that does not mean we give up. Death is a counselor that can give sage advice in times of personal peril. Knowing and accepting your fate allows you to live for today rather than the future or the past, Act in each moment as if its going to be the last. This helps put life and events in proper perspective.A paraphrase from the Bushido Shoshinshu.
An expansion on this idea, quoted verbatim from Thomas Cleary's translation of the Bushido Shoshinshu of Taira Shigesuke. Keep in mind that this starts at the very first paragraph of the manuscript:
One who is supposed to be a warrior considers it his foremost concern to keep death in mind at all times, every day and every night, from the morning of New Year's Day through the night of New Year's Eve.
As long as you keep death in mind at all times, you will also fulfill the ways of loyalty and familial duty. You will also avoid myriad evils and calamities, you will be physically sound and healthy, and you will live a long life. What is more, your character will improve and your virtue will grow.
Here are the reasons for that. All human life is likened to the evening dew and morning frost, considered something quite fragile and ephemeral. While this is so of all people's lives, the life of the warrior is particularly precarious. If people comfort their minds with the assumption that they will live a long time, something might happen because they think they will have forever to do their work and look after their parents- they may fail to perform for their employers and also treat their parents thoughtlessly.
But if you realize that life that is here today is not certain on the morrow, then when you take your orders from your employer, and when you look in on your parents, you will have the sense that this may be the last time- so you cannot fail to be truly attentive to your employer and your parents....When you always keep death in mind, when you speak and when you reply to what others say, you understand the weight and significance of every word as a warrior by profession, so you do not engage in futile arguments. As a matter of course you do not go to dubious places even if people invite you, so there is no way for you to get into unexpected predicaments. That is why I say you will avoid myriad evils and calamities if you keep death in mind.
People of all social classes, high and low, constantly overeat, drink too much, and indulge in their desires to an unhealthy degree, all because of forgetting about death. This puts a strain on their internal organs, so they may die remarkably young, or else become sickly or invalid. When you always keep death in mind, even if you are young and healthy, you already know how to take care of yourself. You moderate food and drink, avoid sexual addiction, and behave prudently. As a result, you are physically sound. Because you are healthy, you will live a long time.
When you assume that your stay in this world will last, various wishes occur to you, and you become desirous. You want what others have, and cling to your own possessions, developing a mercantile mentality. When you always keep death in mind, covetousness naturally weakens, and to that degree a grabby, greedy attitude logically does not occur. That is why I say your character improves.
[ Later, in the chapter specifically devoted to the actual act of dying]
The foremost concern of a warrior, no matter what his rank, is how he will behave at the moment of his death. Now matter how eloquent and intelligent you may normally seem to be, if you lose composure on the brink of death and die in an unseemly manner, your previous good conduct will all be in vain and you will be looked down upon by serious people. This is a very disgraceful thing.
A warrior performs distinguished military feats on the battlefield and earns the highest honor only after having accepted the fact that he is going to die. Because of that, if he has the misfortune to lose in a duel, when his head is about to be taken by the enemy, on being asked his name by the enemy he identifies himself clearly and hands over his head with a small, showing no signs of flinching.I know this was written for a warrior class in a feudal society, but with a simple re-wording the essence of the concept is as worthwhile to a revolutionary as it ever was for a professional soldier, as a professional revolutionary is nothing more than a new kind of warrior with no master and a different kind of war to fight. Replace the word "warrior" with "revolutionary" and suddenly it's a very different document. Either way, that's basically where I get my take on the issue. You may get 30,000 days to live, but only one chance to die properly. Don't fear it; plan for it.
Lyev
12th October 2010, 23:09
"I know the moment's near
and there's nothing we can do
look through a faithless eye
are you afraid to die?
It scares the hell out of me
and the end is all I can see
and it scares the hell out of me
and the end is all I can see"
"Thoughts of a dying atheist" Muse
comrade, why the fuck did you post this!!
Pirate Utopian
12th October 2010, 23:35
I'm really curious about what will happen after I die, and it is infuriating that I won't live to see it.
Yeah. I wanna know how I'll be remembered and how they'll talk of me long after I'm gone.
I'm not afraid of death, but dying must suck.
I'd perfer to live as long as possible. I wouldnt wanna live forever, but a few centuries would be cool.
leftist manson
12th October 2010, 23:41
I'm afraid of dying. I don't like being in pain, it's just one of those quirky things I guess, and I fear the pain associated with most forms of natural death. Death itself, however, isn't at all frightening because when I go I'll just be gone.
yeah perfectly stated....dying of a disease that is slow and painful throughout would be the worst....being paralysed etc.
kitsune
12th October 2010, 23:49
I'm more afraid of dieing than being dead if that makes any sense.
That's perfectly understandable. The process of dying is not often pleasant. Like Woody Allen said, "I am not afraid of death, I just don't want to be there when it happens."
Death itself is no big deal. Nonexistence? Pfff, that's a cinch. There have already been billions of years where I didn't exist, and it was no problem at all.
Amphictyonis
12th October 2010, 23:55
"I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker, And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker, And in short, I was afraid."
Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk
13th October 2010, 00:14
One of the only things you can be sure of in life is that you will die; fearing death is irrational.
I will make the most of what I have in the time that I can, when it ends it ends.
Amphictyonis
13th October 2010, 00:24
One of the only things you can be sure of in life is that you will die; fearing death is irrational.
I will make the most of what I have in the time that I can, when it ends it ends.
Fear of death is healthy- I've always wondered what keeps Christians from killing themselves...pearly gates of heaven awaiting and all. I guess, in a weird way, I can respect cults who kill themselves (heavens gate/jim jones etc). My god how dissapointed they'll be when they face total annihilation. Well, I guess they wont notice :)
Apoi_Viitor
13th October 2010, 07:27
My fear of death strongly influences my Anti-Authoritarianism.
9
13th October 2010, 08:44
once when i was 15, I ate 4 g's of wavy caps and then experienced my own death. bad timez. hopefully the real thing isn't that terrifying.
I try not to think about it, really.
Os Cangaceiros
13th October 2010, 09:45
I ate 4 g's of wavy caps
:blink:
9
13th October 2010, 09:58
^made even more insane by the fact that I weighed about 100lbs at the time.
I was a complete idiot. But yeah, lesson learned.
Invincible Summer
13th October 2010, 10:07
My fear of death strongly influences my Anti-Authoritarianism.
Could you elaborate?
Dimentio
13th October 2010, 10:12
Not in itself. Only afraid I will die before I do something significant for humanity.
Wouldn't mind living forever though.
Devrim
13th October 2010, 10:15
I have had two moments when I thought I was pretty close to death, and looking back on them I am surprised by how calm I was in both situations. The first was waking up to find an Iranian revolutionary guard who was pointing his gun at my head say "any last requests", and the second realising I was going to vomit while my jaw was wired together after a break after thinking I was about to choke to death on my vomit.
I don't like the idea of dying. I worry that my death will be slow and painful, or I'll die in some shameful way, but in the end, what does it matter? I won't know that I've died, and being dead won't be unpleasant.
It is not the dying though it is the living part. Nobody would like a long drawn out painful death from something like cancer, but it is not the dying part of it which is painful (I imagine), but the living.
Devrim
EvilRedGuy
13th October 2010, 11:34
Dying is (unfortunately) an inevitability. There is no point being afraid of something that is going to happen, no matter what you do. Though, if it were possible, I would want to live for a real long fucking time. I'm really curious about what will happen after I die, and it is infuriating that I won't live to see it.
Dream Death: Personally, I'd like to live till the very end of the universe if I could. i'd watch all of history, civilizations rise and fall, and one by one the stars go out, and when the last flicking light disappeared, I would die with it. Dying with the universe, no better way imo.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
EvilRedGuy
13th October 2010, 11:38
I have had two moments when I thought I was pretty close to death, and looking back on them I am surprised by how calm I was in both situations. The first was waking up to find an Iranian revolutionary guard who was pointing his gun at my head say "any last requests", and the second realising I was going to vomit while my jaw was wired together after I break after thinking I was about to choke to death on my vomit.
It is not the dying though it is the living part. Nobody would like a long drawn out painful death from something like cancer, but it is not the dying part of it which is painful (I imagine), but the living.
Devrim
Wow i this true? Is it that dangerous to vosit Iran, not recommended it? Why did this happen though, why did he point the weapon at you, and what happened after how did you "escape" or what happened to get you out of that mess? Sounds sick dude, SICK.
Devrim
13th October 2010, 11:54
Wow i this true? Is it that dangerous to vosit Iran, not recommended it? Why did this happen though, why did he point the weapon at you, and what happened after how did you "escape" or what happened to get you out of that mess? Sounds sick dude, SICK.
It was a sort of joke, which obviously they thought was funnier than I did. I laughed anyway, as I thought it was best.
Devrim
Niccolò Rossi
13th October 2010, 12:41
the second realising I was going to vomit while my jaw was wired together after I break after thinking I was about to choke to death on my vomit.
Why was your jaw wired shut? Holy shit that's some scary stuff man
Nic.
Devrim
13th October 2010, 12:52
Why was your jaw wired shut? Holy shit that's some scary stuff man
It was when I was about 17, and my jaw was wired up because I had broken it about five weeks previously. There was a gold/silver plate on the top, and it was wired up at the bottom. I had been at the hospital for some procedure, which had involved my swallowing a load of wax, (as an unintetional side effect).
I was round at a friend's house a couple of hours later, and I suddenly realised I was going to vomit. Of course I couldn't get the think off, and I just thought, "wow I am going to die now". Anyway, you may not have noticed, but I have natural gaps between my teeth. I don't have lateral incisors. So it all just squirted out through the gaps. It was pretty disgusting, but on balance probably a lot better than dying.
Devrim
leftist manson
14th October 2010, 01:03
It was when I was about 17, and my jaw was wired up because I had broken it about five weeks previously. There was a gold/silver plate on the top, and it was wired up at the bottom. I had been at the hospital for some procedure, which had involved my swallowing a load of wax, (as an unintetional side effect).
I was round at a friend's house a couple of hours later, and I suddenly realised I was going to vomit. Of course I couldn't get the think off, and I just thought, "wow I am going to die now". Anyway, you may not have noticed, but I have natural gaps between my teeth. I don't have lateral incisors. So it all just squirted out through the gaps. It was pretty disgusting, but on balance probably a lot better than dying.
Devrim
unbelievable.....do you have titanium pieces or other stuff around your mouth area ??does it still hurt?? how did it happen?? sounds painfulll
Rafiq
14th October 2010, 01:35
The first was waking up to find an Iranian revolutionary guard who was pointing his gun at my head say "any last requests"
Devrim
This is off topic, but I am actually interested in that story. I am curious on how that happened, and how you escaped it.
Send me a pm or just post it here.
EvilRedGuy
14th October 2010, 09:03
Yeah or make a blog about it.
synthesis
14th October 2010, 09:33
I am surprised by how calm I was in both situations
I know the feeling. In every instance like this that I've personally experienced, everything only really sunk in, like, twenty minutes later. I think it's that fight-or-flight stuff, maybe.
Devrim
14th October 2010, 09:35
Yeah or make a blog about it.
Er...I have never done a blog, I don't know quite what it is about.
unbelievable.....do you have titanium pieces or other stuff around your mouth area ??does it still hurt?? how did it happen?? sounds painfulll
No, it doesn't still hurt, it happened decades ago.. It wasn't actually that painful at the time. Of course having your jaw wired up is uncomfortable, and not eating for six weeks is sort of inconvenient.
It happened when I got hit by a police baton.
Originally my teeth were just tied together with wire. The I banged my leg one day went to scream and pulled a lot of the wiring apart. I went back to the hospital, and they cemented a plate made of silver plated with gold, to my upper jaw, and tied the bottom to it to make it more secure.
This is off topic, but I am actually interested in that story. I am curious on how that happened, and how you escaped it.
There is no dramatic 'escape'. It really was a joke.
It was early 1986 and I was travelling by bus from Istanbul to Tehran. The bus had got caught up in the snow and was late and missed the boarder opening hours so we had to spend the night at the crossing. In the morning while we were waiting for the boarder to open we played football with the revolutionary guard.
After going through the formalities, we got on the bus, and I sat down wrapped a black scarf around my eyes to keep out the sun, and fell asleep. I woke up a short time later being shaken. When I pulled up my scarf, the first thing I saw was the barrel of a gun, and looking up it I came to the face of a revolutionary guard grinning at me (one of the same ones we had been playing football with though I didn't realise it immediately). He then said any last requests, and about 10 seconds later they all fell about laughing (It was a joke on the black scarf being like a blindfold). They then found a Turkish women's magazine, got everybody off the bus, searched through people's luggage, and gave us a lecture on the evils of pornography in four languages while burning the Turkish equivalent of Cosmopolitan.
Devrim
EvilRedGuy
14th October 2010, 11:43
Er...I have never done a blof, I don't know quite what it is about.
No, it doesn't still hurt, it happened decades ago.. It wasn't actually that painful at the time. Of course having your jaw wired up is uncomfortable, and not eating for six weeks is sort of inconvenient.
It happened when I got hit by a police baton.
Originally my teeth were just tied together with wire. The I banged my leg one day went to scream and pulled a lot of the wiring apart. I went back to the hospital, and they cemented a plate made of silver plated with gold, to my upper jaw, and tied the bottom to it to make it more secure.
There is no dramatic 'escape'. It really was a joke.
It was early 1986 and I was travelling by bus from Istanbul to Tehran. The bus had got caught up in the snow and was late and missed the boarder opening hours so we had to spend the night at the crossing. In the morning while we were waiting for the boarder to open we played football with the revolutionary guard.
After going through the formalities, we got on the bus, and I sat down wrapped a black scarf around my eyes to keep out the sun, and fell asleep. I woke up a short time later being shaken. When I pulled up my scarf, the first thing I saw was the barrel of a gun, and looking up it I came to the face of a revolutionary guard grinning at me (one of the same ones we had been playing football with though I didn't realise it immediately). He then said any last requests, and about 10 seconds later they all fell about laughing (It was a joke on the black scarf being like a blindfold). They then found a Turkish women's magazine, got everybody off the bus, searched through people's luggage, and gave us a lecture on the evils of pornography in four languages while burning the Turkish equivalent of Cosmopolitan.
Devrim
Ohhh, 2 more stories you need to explain
1: Why did you get hit by the police bation, what happened that day?
2: Wow sound sick and sexist, could you epxlain why they did that?
Devrim
14th October 2010, 12:54
1: Why did you get hit by the police bation, what happened that day?
We are getting a bit off the point here. I don't think iy is that unusual or interesting for communists to get hit by policemen occasionally
2: Wow sound sick and sexist, could you epxlain why they did that?
Pornography is illegal in Iran, and pictures of women in underwear, or bikinis, such as you get in women's magazines are considered to be pornography, so they piled them all up and burnt them.
Devrim
EvilRedGuy
14th October 2010, 18:56
We are getting a bit off the point here. I don't think iy is that unusual or interesting for communists to get hit by policemen occasionally
Pornography is illegal in Iran, and pictures of women in underwear, or bikinis, such as you get in women's magazines are considered to be pornography, so they piled them all up and burnt them.
Devrim
Well it is Chit Chat, so we're not getting off any point.
Invincible Summer
14th October 2010, 21:12
2: Wow sound sick and sexist, could you epxlain why they did that?
It could be the 3 hours of sleep, but how is that sexist? It's not like they burned it because it was pictures of women
Summerspeaker
14th October 2010, 21:15
Yes and no. I'm afraid of dying because it's typically an unpleasant process. The state of being dead, on the other hand, has hardly any downsides. You can't be unhappy if you don't exist.
Rafiq
14th October 2010, 22:32
Er...I have never done a blog, I don't know quite what it is about.
There is no dramatic 'escape'. It really was a joke.
It was early 1986 and I was travelling by bus from Istanbul to Tehran. The bus had got caught up in the snow and was late and missed the boarder opening hours so we had to spend the night at the crossing. In the morning while we were waiting for the boarder to open we played football with the revolutionary guard.
After going through the formalities, we got on the bus, and I sat down wrapped a black scarf around my eyes to keep out the sun, and fell asleep. I woke up a short time later being shaken. When I pulled up my scarf, the first thing I saw was the barrel of a gun, and looking up it I came to the face of a revolutionary guard grinning at me (one of the same ones we had been playing football with though I didn't realise it immediately). He then said any last requests, and about 10 seconds later they all fell about laughing (It was a joke on the black scarf being like a blindfold). They then found a Turkish women's magazine, got everybody off the bus, searched through people's luggage, and gave us a lecture on the evils of pornography in four languages while burning the Turkish equivalent of Cosmopolitan.
Devrim
Wow, was this was during the Iran-Iraq war, right?
Why would you travel to Iran in times of War, especially one with Saddam Hussien?
Devrim
15th October 2010, 01:06
Wow, was this was during the Iran-Iraq war, right?
Why would you travel to Iran in times of War, especially one with Saddam Hussien?
Yes, it was during the war, and I had good reasons to go. It wasn't difficult to travel to Iran during the war, and the actual fighting was far too the South. Probably the thing that struck me most about the war was the lack of young men in the city.
I don't see why particularly a war with Saddam would be especially different.
Devrim
Obs
15th October 2010, 03:30
Well it is Chit Chat, so we're not getting off any point.
That's not what Chit-Chat means.
Uppercut
15th October 2010, 18:45
I would like to live as long as I can, but death is inevitable so it's irrational to be afraid of it.
Jazzratt
15th October 2010, 19:00
I don't intend to die at all. Sod this "inevitable" bollocks, I'm not going to bother dying.
Quail
15th October 2010, 19:10
I always imagine that if I lived forever, eventually I'd get bored of living and kill myself. I'd rather have more than 60ish years left though (that is, if I don't die from a freak accident or disease).
Invincible Summer
15th October 2010, 20:05
I don't intend to die at all. Sod this "inevitable" bollocks, I'm not going to bother dying.
It's inevitable until someone comes up with a means for immortality. Then we'll have a whole new set of problems to deal with
Rafiq
15th October 2010, 21:01
Yes, it was during the war, and I had good reasons to go. It wasn't difficult to travel to Iran during the war, and the actual fighting was far too the South. Probably the thing that struck me most about the war was the lack of young men in the city.
I don't see why particularly a war with Saddam would be especially different.
Devrim
Yeah most young people fought in that war.
But Saddam was known to use chemical weapons in that war against Kurds and some places in Iran plus he had the support of every superpower.
So I would imagine it would be a little dangerous.
Devrim
15th October 2010, 21:11
But Saddam was known to use chemical weapons in that war against Kurds and some places in Iran plus he had the support of every superpower.
So I would imagine it would be a little dangerous.
Saddam used chemical weapons in Northern Iraq and on the front line itself. It really wasn't that dangerous, so far to the North. It wasn't like you see journalists hiring people to take them into the war zone in Iraq. I mean, I took the bus to get there.
I didn't see any direct evidence of the war, though I saw lots of indirect things like I referred to above.
Devrim
gorillafuck
15th October 2010, 21:25
Sometimes I'm afraid of the concept of my mind and consciousness not existing anymore, since I can't fathom it.
Rafiq
16th October 2010, 16:08
Saddam used chemical weapons in Northern Iraq and on the front line itself. It really wasn't that dangerous, so far to the North. It wasn't like you see journalists hiring people to take them into the war zone in Iraq. I mean, I took the bus to get there.
I didn't see any direct evidence of the war, though I saw lots of indirect things like I referred to above.
Devrim
I guess the Media are a little over dramatic about this kind of stuff then.
Crimson Commissar
16th October 2010, 16:20
Not so much afraid of death, but definitely afraid of the situations that would lead to death...
Queercommie Girl
16th October 2010, 16:30
In an universe or multiverse that is really infinite in time, simply due to random statistical chance every single kind of informational combination will emerge an infinite number of times, therefore in this sense we are all literally immortal, and will live an infinite number of lives.
According to dialectics, change is the eternal constant of the universe, not death. Therefore I don't think death will be the absolute end of "me", whatever "I" am.
That is my "religion" based solely on scientific speculation rather than superstition.
Reznov
16th October 2010, 16:50
Dream Death: Personally, I'd like to live till the very end of the universe if I could. i'd watch all of history, civilizations rise and fall, and one by one the stars go out, and when the last flicking light disappeared, I would die with it. Dying with the universe, no better way imo.
I'd get bored.
Fuck it, tonight im gonna go have myself a smoke and drink now, this thread is to fucking depressing.
Invincible Summer
16th October 2010, 19:58
In an universe or multiverse that is really infinite in time, simply due to random statistical chance every single kind of informational combination will emerge an infinite number of times, therefore in this sense we are all literally immortal, and will live an infinite number of lives.
According to dialectics, change is the eternal constant of the universe, not death. Therefore I don't think death will be the absolute end of "me", whatever "I" am.
That is my "religion" based solely on scientific speculation rather than superstition.
You totally blew my mind
Ivan Jansa
22nd October 2010, 00:32
I saw war and genocide with my eyes when I was a child and to say that I fear death would be an understatement. The mere notion makes me tremble when I think back at the dead bodies and hiding in the forest. I don't think I'll ever get over it.
Fullmetal Anarchist
23rd October 2010, 00:34
I'm afraid of death because I know it's going to be slow and painful. When I was in the army I wasn't because it would have been quick but with my current situation. I'm scared.
EvilRedGuy
24th October 2010, 12:33
I saw war and genocide with my eyes when I was a child and to say that I fear death would be an understatement. The mere notion makes me tremble when I think back at the dead bodies and hiding in the forest. I don't think I'll ever get over it.
Holy fuck. Are you for real?
Bad Grrrl Agro
26th October 2010, 06:23
No, I'm afraid of trying and failing.
Quail
26th October 2010, 06:32
No, I'm afraid of trying and failing.
I just want to hug you. Honestly, things will get better.
Forward Union
26th October 2010, 12:45
I have had two moments when I thought I was pretty close to death, and looking back on them I am surprised by how calm I was in both situations.
I can concur with this. One particular time I was convinced I was going to die was when a truck I was sat on driving between Zapatista villages drove off the side of a rode into a ravine. It was 4am and the driver had sleep deprivation and heat stroke. Really there was no reason why it shouldn't have rolled over and crushed me, but for some reason it stopped short of that. There wasn't really a feeling of panic or terror, maybe due to extreme fatigue.
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27th October 2010, 01:28
That is my "religion" based solely on scientific speculation
:rolleyes:
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