Killer of Alexandros Grigoropoulos courtcase.

[Omi]

It seems the killer of Alexis is getting a jail sentence right now.



#390 | Korkoneas receives life sentence plus 15 months; Saraliotis receives 10 years and asks for suspension to his sentence

As it has just been announced: Korkoneas, the murderer of Alexandros Grigoropoulos, has received a life sentence for the murder, plus 15 months for illegal weapon possession. His co-defendant and accomplice to the murder, Saraliotis, has received 10 years. Saraliotis has asked for his sentence to be suspended until the court of appeals; his demand is being considered now (14.30 GMT+2) by the court – this caused a reaction by Alexandros’ grandmother and the atmosphere in the courtroom is now tense.


http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/2010/10/11/390-korkoneas-receives-life-sentence-plus-15-months-saraliotis-receives-10-years-and-asks-for-suspension-to-his-sentence/




And here is an official BBC statement about the issue


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11513309

Note how they say:

The trial was moved from Athens to Amfissa - a small town 200km (120 miles) west of the capital - to deter attacks by anarchist groups that had vowed to kill the two defendants.


Exarchia is a rebellious district, popular with self-styled anarchists, and there are frequent clashes with police.


Couldn't just have a objective news item without denouncing the evil anarchists, who are by the way just self-styled and do not represent any ideology at all, could they.

[Delenda Carthago]

who cares?

[Os Cangaceiros]

Does a life sentence in Greece mean actual life in prison, like it does in the US? Or just 20-30 years?

[Omi]

who cares?

What do you mean?:confused:

[Delenda Carthago]

What do you mean?:confused:
that nobody cares about the cop getting time?

[Delenda Carthago]

Does a life sentence in Greece mean actual life in prison, like it does in the US? Or just 20-30 years?
nah,if he gets to work in prison,he ll be out in 15 years...

[Omi]

that nobody cares about the cop getting time?

Would you care if he was relieved of all charges?:confused:

[Delenda Carthago]

Would you care if he was relieved of all charges?:confused:
what would change?

[Omi]

The fact that if they relieved him of his charges this is a clear and obvious example of the state protecting their own employees. Now, it is shown that the state is not afraid of putting it's own members in jail if this means that social revolt is less likely to happen.

Not that this is surprising, but it is a news story worth spreading isn't it? Isn't it good to be aware of the reality of the struggle you are in, and try to educate yourselves and others of the happenings within the revolutionary movement?

I find this ''who cares'' attitude to simplistic. Yes, we do not applaud the state prosecutors, because we know they endorse the same paradigm which made it possible for the boy to get killed in the first place. But didn't we all show our rage when this happened, showing we did give a f*ck, and not sit on the sidelines and say: ''who gives a fuck, of course the state kills, that's what they do.''

I refuse to hold such an attitude, and I think it's far to elitist to say 'nobody cares'.

[Delenda Carthago]

The fact that if they relieved him of his charges this is a clear and obvious example of the state protecting their own employees. Now, it is shown that the state is not afraid of putting it's own members in jail if this means that social revolt is less likely to happen.

Not that this is surprising, but it is a news story worth spreading isn't it? Isn't it good to be aware of the reality of the struggle you are in, and try to educate yourselves and others of the happenings within the revolutionary movement?

I find this ''who cares'' attitude to simplistic. Yes, we do not applaud the state prosecutors, because we know they endorse the same paradigm which made it possible for the boy to get killed in the first place. But didn't we all show our rage when this happened, showing we did give a f*ck, and not sit on the sidelines and say: ''who gives a fuck, of course the state kills, that's what they do.''

I refuse to hold such an attitude, and I think it's far to elitist to say 'nobody cares'.
Yes we gave a fuck.The way we supposed to.2 years ago.I dont know if you heard about it...

But I m not gonna give the state the power to condemn its hand while the head makes a "just" call."It wasnt an accident,it was the essence of the state" we used to say back then.Korkoneas came from immolator to victim but the State still rules.So,yeah,who cares...

[Ravachol]

The fact that if they relieved him of his charges this is a clear and obvious example of the state protecting their own employees. Now, it is shown that the state is not afraid of putting it's own members in jail if this means that social revolt is less likely to happen.

Not that this is surprising, but it is a news story worth spreading isn't it? Isn't it good to be aware of the reality of the struggle you are in, and try to educate yourselves and others of the happenings within the revolutionary movement?

I find this ''who cares'' attitude to simplistic. Yes, we do not applaud the state prosecutors, because we know they endorse the same paradigm which made it possible for the boy to get killed in the first place. But didn't we all show our rage when this happened, showing we did give a f*ck, and not sit on the sidelines and say: ''who gives a fuck, of course the state kills, that's what they do.''

I refuse to hold such an attitude, and I think it's far to elitist to say 'nobody cares'.

While I largely agree with this, I think it's very dangerous to pay too much attention to this act of the state.

For one, it allows the state to present itself as 'just' reinforcing it's hegemonic position as the final arbiter of right and wrong. By putting too much emphasis on 'justice for Alexis', we are kneeling at the altar of the state's judges asking them to deliver us this 'justice', thus reproducing the state's authority.
The big risk of this kind of demand is the very real possibility of it being met, with the killer of Alexis behind bars, the demand met and the entire campaign surrounding it coming to a conclusion the return of social peace and normality is a very real possibility if the focus lies solemnly on getting this or that cop behind bars.

[Omi]

Yeah I agree with you both I think, but the wat AttackGr posted his first response was not really an indication of this point at all. It was more like an attack against me posting this piece of information, which I think is pretty absurd. If this was not the case it's okay, but I would expect a more mature response.

[Delenda Carthago]

Yeah I agree with you both I think, but the wat AttackGr posted his first response was not really an indication of this point at all. It was more like an attack against me posting this piece of information, which I think is pretty absurd. If this was not the case it's okay, but I would expect a more mature response.
I didnt attack you!If I wanted to attack you I would say:"why do you give a shit about this you fuckin moron?" or something like that.I just really thought it was irrelevant...

[Omi]

Then everything is okay. Language barriers are a *****!:thumbup1: