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ZeroNowhere
11th October 2010, 10:20
Economy Sandbags Plans for Nuclear Reactors

By MATTHEW L. WALD (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/w/matthew_l_wald/index.html?inline=nyt-per)

Published: October 10, 2010

WASHINGTON — Just a few years ago, the economic prognosis for new nuclear reactors looked bright. The prospect of growing electricity demand, probable caps on carbon-dioxide emissions and government loan guarantees prompted companies to tell the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/nuclear_regulatory_commission/index.html?inline=nyt-org) that they wanted to build 28 new reactors.

The economic slump, which has driven down demand and the price of competing energy sources, and the failure of Congress to pass climate legislation (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/energy-environment/climate-and-energy-legislation/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) has changed all that, at least for now.

Constellation Energy (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/constellation_energy_group/index.html?inline=nyt-org)’s announcement (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/20101011POWERletter.pdf) on Saturday that it had reached an impasse with the federal government over the fee for a loan guarantee on a new reactor in Maryland is a sign of how much the landscape has been transformed.

Essentially, the Energy Department argued that Constellation’s project is so risky that the company must pay a high fee or provide other assurances of repayment if it wants the taxpayers to guarantee its construction loans. Constellation said the government’s demand was “unreasonably burdensome.”

The government is hardly the only one to question the economics of nuclear power right now. The would-be builders of seven reactors around the country have deferred their projects in the last few months.

J. Scott Peterson, a spokesman for the Nuclear Energy Institute, the industry’s trade group, said the “pause” in nuclear building plans mirrors delays in other industrial projects. “It’s principally because of the economic situation,” he said.

One major factor driving the cautious stance of both the industry and the government is the fall in electricity demand, which peaked in 2007. In 2009, demand dropped by more than 4 percent from 2007. So far, it seems that demand in 2010 will be higher (http://www.eia.doe.gov/mer/pdf/pages/sec7_5.pdf) than last year, but not as high as 2007. These are big changes for an industry that is accustomed to growth on the order of 1 to 3 percent a year. With slack demand, there is less urgency to build new plants.

The plunge in the price of natural gas (http://www.nytimes.com/info/natural-gas/?inline=nyt-classifier) has also made nuclear power far less competitive. The year the recession (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/r/recession_and_depression/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) began, 2008, the standard unit of natural gas, one million British thermal units, sold for an average of $7.96 at the well head. Last year the same amount of gas cost just $3.71, according to preliminary Energy Department figures (http://www.eia.doe.gov/mer/pdf/pages/sec9_17.pdf), and for the first six months of this year, it cost $4.43.

A return to strong economic growth would push up the demand for electricity and for natural gas, but even then, natural gas prices may remain low because a technology called hydraulic fracturing has vastly increased the estimate of recoverable reserves.

Also weighing on the nuclear industry is the unwillingness of Congress to pass climate change legislation that would put a price of some sort on carbon-dioxide emissions. Since nuclear power produces no carbon emissions, it would gain a competitive edge against coal (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/c/coal/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) and natural gas if a bill were passed. But while such legislation once seemed likely, sharp divisions in Congress and concerns about the tottering economy have stalled its prospects.

Putting all that together, the Energy Department evaluated Constellation’s proposal the way a bank would look at a prospective credit card customer or home buyer and set the fee according to the borrower’s creditworthiness. Under a program created by Congress, Constellation was seeking a guarantee for 80 percent of the cost of the project. The government settled on a fee of $880 million, or 11.6 percent of the $7.6 billion loan, according to Constellation. In a letter to the Energy Department, the company called the figure “shockingly high” and said it would doom the project.

Other companies have looked at the economics of building new nuclear reactors and decided to wait. In September, Exelon (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/exelon_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org), the largest nuclear operator in the United States, stepped back from a plan to build a twin-unit reactor plant in Texas and decided to simply seek approval for the site, which would save it some time if it decided later to build.

Exelon said it needs natural gas prices to reach about $8 per million B.T.U. — almost double today’s price — and a carbon fee of $25 a ton to make the project worthwhile economically. “We don’t have the right stimulus right now,” said Christopher M. Crane, president and chief operating officer, in a recent interview.

Two utilities in Florida, Progress Energy and FPL, each want to build twin-unit reactors but have slowed their projects down. A Missouri utility has backed away from a plan to build a carbon copy of the Constellation Maryland reactor.

Nuclear plant operators like Exelon and Constellation face particular challenges because after deregulation in their states, they must compete against other energy suppliers to sell electricity to the companies that actually distribute energy to customers.

Two nuclear projects that have gone forward, in Georgia and South Carolina, are in states where the utilities building them also distribute the electricity and operate under traditonal regulatory rules that virtually guarantee them a financial return: Whatever the companies spend to generate power, the customers will pay for, unless regulators decide the expenses were not “prudent.” That regulatory compact is so strong that the South Carolina project, on the site of the existing V. C. Summer reactor, has begun work without a loan guarantee.

In Constellation’s case, the Energy Department proposed that Constellation reduce the risk of financial failure by signing a contract with its regulated subsidiary, Baltimore Gas & Electric, to buy 75 percent of the new reactor’s output at a price that would allow Constellation to repay the loan. That idea would require approval of state regulators, but state officials have generally favored construction of the reactor.

Such a contract would limit the builders’ upside possibilities, however, and Constellation has not pursued the idea.

A spokeswoman for the Energy Department, Stephanie Mueller, said the parties were still working on a compromise. “We urge Constellation and its partner to examine the latest terms and continue working on this project important to bringing about the clean-energy economy of the future and creating many needed jobs,” she said.

Some nuclear advocates say that pure economics should not be an overriding concern.

Constellation Energy argues that its reactor is less risky than the government’s assessment indicates. The Maryland reactor would be the sixth or seventh instance of a new design, with Finland, France and China working out the kinks first, according to James L. Connaughton, executive vice president of Constellation Energy.

He said that Constellation and its partner, Électricité de France, are experienced at this kind of job, and thus the fee from the government should be 1 or 2 percent of the guarantee. The reactor’s construction will provide thousands of well-paying jobs and clean power for decades, he said, if only the government would make a more realistic assessment of risk.
But Michael Mariotte, executive director of the antinuclear group Nuclear Information and Resource Service, predicted that Constellation and the nuclear industry will experience no renaissance for the most simple of reasons: “nuclear reactors make no economic sense.”
Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/11/business/energy-environment/11power.html?_r=1&ref=us).

Clearly profitability ought to be our primary concern as regards future energy supply.

ÑóẊîöʼn
11th October 2010, 15:22
Shit like this makes me so bloody angry. There are plenty of urgently pressing reasons for us to switch over to a low-carbon economy, and nuclear power will be an essential component of that.

If we wait until the economic conditions ensure a near-term pay off then we will be waiting until the fucking fossil fuels run out, and then it will be too late.

China and Iran are correct in their focus on energy security, as opposed to profitability. Is there anyone in the West with the stones to follow through on this important issue?

ryacku
21st October 2010, 02:49
A return to strong economic growth would push up the demand for electricity and for natural gas, but even then, natural gas prices may remain low because a technology called hydraulic fracturing has vastly increased the estimate of recoverable reserves.
Which also ruins local water supplies.

Nuclear energy could potentially provide us with energy for centuries, and all pollutants from nuclear power can be easily contained.

Summerspeaker
21st October 2010, 06:00
In practice, all pollutants from nuclear power have not been contained. Living in New Mexico has given me a decidedly different perspective on the subject. At the moment, no electricity source can claim to be pollution free. Manufacturing and transportation remain based on fossil fuels.

ÑóẊîöʼn
21st October 2010, 18:04
In practice, all pollutants from nuclear power have not been contained. Living in New Mexico has given me a decidedly different perspective on the subject.

Why? Are people dying of radiation poisoning there? Certainly the waste products of nuclear energy are a lot easier to contain than that of fossil fuels, which are often simply released into the atmosphere without any treatment or processing whatsoever.


At the moment, no electricity source can claim to be pollution free.

An absurd claim that nobody sensible has made.


Manufacturing and transportation remain based on fossil fuels.

That's for economic reasons, not technical reasons.

Summerspeaker
22nd October 2010, 00:07
Why? Are people dying of radiation poisoning there?

Yes, though who and how many sparks considerable controversy. However, nobody that I know of denies the damage done to Navajo lands by uranium mining. See books like Yellow Dirt (http://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Dirt-American-Poisoned-Betrayed/dp/1416594825) for the nasty details. Less accepted reports about the radiations danger from places like the WIPP site (http://www.cardnm.org/geolover_a.html) and Los Alamos National Laboratory (http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/01/nation/na-radiation-newmexico1) pop up constantly. The anti-nuclear movement has considerable influence in the leftist community here. Though targeted foremost at nuclear weapons, many/most anti-nuclear activists also consider radiation a significant public health risk.


Certainly the waste products of nuclear energy are a lot easier to contain than that of fossil fuels, which are often simply released into the atmosphere without any treatment or processing whatsoever.

There's no question in my mind that fission beats coal, but that doesn't make it good.


That's for economic reasons, not technical reasons.

Perhaps, but it's a reality we have to remember for the short term.

ÑóẊîöʼn
22nd October 2010, 05:24
Yes, though who and how many sparks considerable controversy. However, nobody that I know of denies the damage done to Navajo lands by uranium mining. See books like Yellow Dirt (http://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Dirt-American-Poisoned-Betrayed/dp/1416594825) for the nasty details. Less accepted reports about the radiations danger from places like the WIPP site (http://www.cardnm.org/geolover_a.html) and Los Alamos National Laboratory (http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/01/nation/na-radiation-newmexico1) pop up constantly. The anti-nuclear movement has considerable influence in the leftist community here. Though targeted foremost at nuclear weapons, many/most anti-nuclear activists also consider radiation a significant public health risk.

While anti-nuclear activists are right to point out the damage caused by careless uranium mining, I think they go too far when they attack nuclear power as a solution.


There's no question in my mind that fission beats coal, but that doesn't make it good.

No, what makes fission good is its unmatched energy density, low carbon emissions and potential for lasting thousands if not billions of years.


Perhaps, but it's a reality we have to remember for the short term.

That I consider a strike against capitalism, not nuclear fission.

Summerspeaker
22nd October 2010, 06:07
No, what makes fission good is its unmatched energy density, low carbon emissions and potential for lasting thousands if not billions of years.

The dangerous waste also lasts for that long, unfortunately. Figuring out what to do with nuclear waste as well how to manage the risk of meltdown remains a major problem. Nobody wants a nuclear waste dump in their backyard. At present, political and economic coercion forces certain folks to live near dumps and reactors. Combined with fission's inherent centralization and intimate connection with nuclear weapons programs, this makes me decidedly skeptical of its worth as a green power solution. If you could actually get a community to genuinely consent to build a fission plant and deal with the waste, I wouldn't have a problem with it. That's not how things work now. No energy option will be particularly great under capitalism, but fission works particularly poorly.

ÑóẊîöʼn
22nd October 2010, 06:46
The dangerous waste also lasts for that long, unfortunately. Figuring out what to do with nuclear waste as well how to manage the risk of meltdown remains a major problem.

Not really. Whatever is left over from reprocessing can be turned into an inert glassy solid through the process of vitrification.


Nobody wants a nuclear waste dump in their backyard. At present, political and economic coercion forces certain folks to live near dumps and reactors.

I'd rather live next to a reactor or nuclear waste dump than a heck of a lot of other industrial sites. I'm 100% serious.


Combined with fission's inherent centralization and intimate connection with nuclear weapons programs, this makes me decidedly skeptical of its worth as a green power solution.

I've stated elsewhere that I don't agree that centralisation is necessarily a huge bugaboo, and I'm also not too worried about nuclear weapons development either, because geopolitical stability is a larger question than mere weapons.


If you could actually get a community to genuinely consent to build a fission plant and deal with the waste, I wouldn't have a problem with it. That's not how things work now. No energy option will be particularly great under capitalism, but fission works particularly poorly.

Green organisations have successfully scared people over radiation, when the fact of the matter is that the majority of radiation exposure is natural:

http://1.2.3.10/bmi/www.freedomforfission.org.uk/img/dosage.jpg

Proportion of an average yearly radiation dosage based on the American Institute of Physics handbook. All figures are in mSv.

Summerspeaker
22nd October 2010, 19:20
Not really. Whatever is left over from reprocessing can be turned into an inert glassy solid through the process of vitrification.

Folks continue argue bitterly over waste disposal all wherever nuclear power gets used. You can assign this all to popular irrationality and/or capitalist inefficiency if you want, but it's a current political reality.


I'd rather live next to a reactor or nuclear waste dump than a heck of a lot of other industrial sites. I'm 100% serious.Sure. The reactor I lived relatively near in North Carolina seemed safe enough. I don't know about waste dumps. I don't trust the bosses to value my health over their profits and convenience. This applies to all current industrial operations, of course, but nuclear waste lasts much longer than other types.


I've stated elsewhere that I don't agree that centralisation is necessarily a huge bugaboo, and I'm also not too worried about nuclear weapons development either, because geopolitical stability is a larger question than mere weapons.Nuclear power plants only appear through big business and big government. At least solar offers the possibility of getting off the grid and providing community energy autonomy. You'd need a huge community with uranium resources to manage that with fission.


Green organisations have successfully scared people over radiation, when the fact of the matter is that the majority of radiation exposure is natural:Yes, I'm well aware of the official position on radiation dangers. A minority of scientists disagree. In particular radiation standards apparently favor adult dudes (http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/007596.html). Women and children can suffer from lower doses. I suspect my comrades likely do overestimate the risks. Especially given the uncertainty involved, however, we have respect their views. Current nuclear development can only come via focusing reactors and dumps on the unwilling.

ÑóẊîöʼn
23rd October 2010, 09:30
Folks continue argue bitterly over waste disposal all wherever nuclear power gets used. You can assign this all to popular irrationality and/or capitalist inefficiency if you want, but it's a current political reality.

The argument has nothing to do with safety of the waste then. In which case the rest of us are perfectly within our rights to tell the middle class "oh what about our property prices" NIMBYs to fuck off.


Sure. The reactor I lived relatively near in North Carolina seemed safe enough. I don't know about waste dumps. I don't trust the bosses to value my health over their profits and convenience. This applies to all current industrial operations, of course, but nuclear waste lasts much longer than other types.

Actually, while nuclear waste has a half-life, heavy metals and similar pollutants will remain toxic forever.

You should be more worried about chemical processes than nuclear.


Nuclear power plants only appear through big business and big government. At least solar offers the possibility of getting off the grid and providing community energy autonomy. You'd need a huge community with uranium resources to manage that with fission.

Big government? Are you a communist or a lolbertarian? Energy autonomy doesn't count for shit without political autonomy.


Yes, I'm well aware of the official position on radiation dangers. A minority of scientists disagree. In particular radiation standards apparently favor adult dudes (http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/007596.html). Women and children can suffer from lower doses. I suspect my comrades likely do overestimate the risks. Especially given the uncertainty involved, however, we have respect their views. Current nuclear development can only come via focusing reactors and dumps on the unwilling.

That argument only "works" because there will always be some sandal-wearing primmie nutcase who objects to the nuclear power that, if the poll in S&E is any indication, most people will not have a problem with.

Summerspeaker
23rd October 2010, 17:41
The argument has nothing to do with safety of the waste then.

:confused: Where are you getting that from? To the contrary, anti-nuclear activists are centrally concerned about safety. They might be wrong, but the science on the issue isn't conclusive enough to dismiss their concerns. As mentioned earlier, various scientists continue to point to radioactive waste as serious public health issue. That stuff is dangerous. The nuclear industry itself recognizes this. They don't have elaborate procedures for nothing. Attempting to downplay the threat does your side no favors. There's an undeniable specific history of racist exploitation connected with uranium mining and general history of capitalist carelessness with deadly waste products. Even under the best reading, the technicians, politicians, and corporate bosses involved must refrain from screwing up too epically for nuclear power to be safe.


In which case the rest of us are perfectly within our rights to tell the middle class "oh what about our property prices" NIMBYs to fuck off.

While that's certainly an element in the equation, few of the folks I know attack nuclear power from this perspective.


Actually, while nuclear waste has a half-life, heavy metals and similar pollutants will remain toxic forever.

I was thinking more of particulate matter, the major killer from coal power plants. Heavy metals indeed remain toxic forever, but they're also easier to contain than high-level radioactive waste.


You should be more worried about chemical processes than nuclear.

I'm worried about both.


Big government? Are you a communist or a lolbertarian?

A communist and an anarchist.


Energy autonomy doesn't count for shit without political autonomy.

The two can go together. It would be sad for a would-be autonomous community to submit out of fear of blackouts. Additionally, nuclear power facilities have the disadvantage of being well-defended. Less centralized forms or smaller, less risky power plants would be easier to liberate. :)


That argument only "works" because there will always be some sandal-wearing primmie nutcase who objects to the nuclear power that, if the poll in S&E is any indication, most people will not have a problem with.

Such a self-selected poll doesn't even necessarily tell us the views of folks here, much less anything about the broader leftist movement or general public. Your eagerness to write off anyone concerned about the safety of nuclear power as irrational or even a sand-wearing (?) primmie scares me. That kind of thinking from decision makers enables colossal errors. Ethical employment of technology requires community engagement and acknowledgment of uncertainty.

ÑóẊîöʼn
24th October 2010, 14:36
:confused: Where are you getting that from? To the contrary, anti-nuclear activists are centrally concerned about safety. They might be wrong, but the science on the issue isn't conclusive enough to dismiss their concerns. As mentioned earlier, various scientists continue to point to radioactive waste as serious public health issue. That stuff is dangerous. The nuclear industry itself recognizes this. They don't have elaborate procedures for nothing. Attempting to downplay the threat does your side no favors.

I'm not downplaying the threat; I'm pointing out that there are techniques and processes available right now (and which are used in some cases) that can mitigate the dangers to acceptable levels.


There's an undeniable specific history of racist exploitation connected with uranium mining and general history of capitalist carelessness with deadly waste products. Even under the best reading, the technicians, politicians, and corporate bosses involved must refrain from screwing up too epically for nuclear power to be safe.

It is possible for engineers to create designs that, in the event of the inevitable human error, minimise the dangers by virtue of their architecture. We should be encouraging safe designs, not writing off the whole field of nuclear energy.


I was thinking more of particulate matter, the major killer from coal power plants. Heavy metals indeed remain toxic forever, but they're also easier to contain than high-level radioactive waste.

Emissions from coal plants contain heavy metals. Also, coal ash is more radioactive! (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste)

When I say that you should be more worried about chemical processes, that is why. Because they are far more likely to hurt you.


A communist and an anarchist.

Whenever I've heard somebody rail about the evils of "big government", they've usually been a Libertardian Randroid of some description.


The two can go together. It would be sad for a would-be autonomous community to submit out of fear of blackouts.

If they can't use electricity, they will use guns. Centralisation isn't the problem, the problem is the existence of bodies willing and able to use force to coerce others. As long as those bodies stand, true political autonomy is impossible.


Additionally, nuclear power facilities have the disadvantage of being well-defended. Less centralized forms or smaller, less risky power plants would be easier to liberate. :)

And easier for counter-revolutionaries to sabotage. Windfarms and solar panels can be damaged with readily available tools, while you fly an aircraft into a nuclear power plant and it would just splatter against the reactor housing.


Such a self-selected poll doesn't even necessarily tell us the views of folks here, much less anything about the broader leftist movement or general public. Your eagerness to write off anyone concerned about the safety of nuclear power as irrational or even a sand-wearing (?) primmie scares me.

Green organisations have shown themselves to be all too willing to use scare tactics under the guise of a concern for safety. This indicates either incompetence, or a willingness to sacrifice scientific accuracy out of political motives or a desire for maximum shock value.


That kind of thinking from decision makers enables colossal errors. Ethical employment of technology requires community engagement and acknowledgment of uncertainty.

Of course those affected should be consulted, but if a community rejects nuclear power based on misinformation spread by politically-motivated organisations, then I would consider that a tragedy. While uncertainty should be recognised, it should not completely dictate our actions, especially if what we do know strongly tells us that a course of action is a good idea.