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Jim Profit
5th October 2010, 22:24
This site was definitelly not what I was expecting. I google communist forum, this comes up, and what do I see? Well I don't know, you tell me.

Before I even register, I see in bold *no fascists*. Whilest I can certainly see why communists and fascists wouldn't get along, it doesn't seem very communist to just disregard an entire group of political thinkers. Even if they're destructive and oppressing, the point is to expand on ideas and make all information and production avaliable. So already this is looking like shit.

But then it says no bolshevisks or "pseduo-communists". So now apparently only hardcore communists are allowed. Who defines who is a hardcore communist and who isn't? This is already looking dangerously uncommunist.

Then I read a few topics, and whilest there is certainly some good discussions and valid points, I see way too many mods. Infact, one mod is too many. Because let me get this straight... you're anti-fascism, you're anti-stalinism, and yet you have moderators? At that very active moderators to "prevent trolling"? What is so frightening abou trolling that you have to give up on your principles just to prevent it?

This forum has already disproved communism, and that is sad. Because I'm a communist, I'm an admin at a communism page, and I would never do half this shit. I would not segregate the so-called "rightwing" to a specific forum and make them feel alienated or shunned, I wouldn't remind people they have to say or act a certain way, and I sure as hell would not tell people what the are and aren't. If they think they're an anarchist or a communist, then they are. Even if I disagree with them.

This is very bourgoise. So unless you have a damn good excuse, I'm goin to use this forum as an example of how we have alot of disinformation agents about what communism is and isn't. Because I think it's ironic that this place went above and beyond to say no authoritarian or totalatarian sympathizers, yet that's EXACTLY what you're doing. Infact, it's ussually the people who ***** most about it who do it first. And the fact is that if you can't even resist doing it on an internet message board, you are not prepared to start a revolution in the real world and are just going to make things worse.


Also why the hell do women get their own forum? I know some want to believe women are oppressed, but we're all oppressed. And whilest women do have to face unrealistic standards in beauty, grace, and get second pickings in the job market. They also are practcally immune to critisiscm. The very fact you all hve to go out of your way to prove you're procoice, femenists, sexual progressives proves that. Which I thought the point of communism was we didn't have to prove shit.

You sound like a bunch of armchair liberals. Not communists, not anarchists, not even fascists or nazis or whatever. Which would STILL be preferable. Because contrary to popular belief, social populism is not reactionary. Capitalism thrives on *****es and whores. It excells in teaching people to think selfishly, to only exsist for self gratification and make them too deranged or stupid to rebel. I'm not saying I want a theocracy... but what I am saying is a woman who has an abortion is no different then a ceo who lays off a hundred people to save himself a fifteenth of a percentage. Capitalism and rightwing philosophy is all about self grandiose and appeasing one's desires at the expense of others. It's evil, and it's psychoic. And I'm not so arrogant and hateful as to burn my bridges with any potential ally. Even so called rightwingers. In life you have to pick your battles...

Now I didn't come here just to say that. Like I said, this forum does have alot of intelligent discourse and subjects, but it's worthless if there's really noone to discuss things with. I see way too many posts with breif dialogue because people are afraid to actually speakout and sound "rightwing". Oh God forbid we don' meet somene elses criteria of what a real communist looks like!!! And when 1/3rd of the members online are mods, something is seriously wrong.

Me and my pal Gary run a facebook webpage called The American Communist League. If you want to post there, you can. I won't stop you, I won't tell you what you are and what you aren't. I welcome all people, of all different kinds of thought and action... You'll unfourtanately have to find it yourself, because apparently there's yet another rule that I cannot post links without having twenty five posts first. (So if the wall of text threatens you, blame the mods. Because normally I put images in my post to kind of lessen the strain on the eyes)

As far as why I call myself Jim Profit, that goes back a long time ago, and infact, reminds me why I'm a communist. Because I know what its like to be "prochoice" and take from others for my own well being, and because I have morals, I have had to carry that burden with me. "Profiting" off of others.

Also Jim Proletariat just doesn't have the same ring to it... lol! Now mind you, I know I'm not a "pro". I don't kno the terms and all the bullcrap. I figure there's no real need fo that. I'll learn as I go along, and the point is to lessen the weight of monetary system off our shoulders, not distinguish between Marxist-Lenists and the Trotskyists, and all that other bullshit. I figure if you're bored and want that drama ok, argue sematics, it be fun. But I leave it at speculation. Like how Gary believes we should develop a lottery system of governance. He loved my idea of people don't vote, but rather get a scratch off ticket and choose a bubble and see who they "won" in their vote. Thereby having no choice in who actually wins but still getting to feel guilty for participating. He though that was awesome, but I meat it as a joke... lol!

I tend to be more absolute and focus on human rights then on how we should govern. I do believe in the constitution. Atleast as far as the human rights go of the first nine. All that crap about states and shit, no. But all-in-all the constitution is very Trotskyist. Which is why you have the right to a trial, the right to not being self-incriminated, the igh to free speech, (not that the internet seems to appreciate that) and stuff like that. Our forefathers saw where rightwingism led, but they didn't go far enough because deepdown. They weren't good people, they were just rational people. But all I ask is that you atleast be one or the other. I don't have high standards. Then again, I'm an absurdist. I don't really expect much out of people or the universe besides weird or evil... But I can hope for better. For myself, for my kids, for everybody.


As far as my politics, I'm sure you'll see intime. Frankly I'm liking the term "hateocrat" I invented... I'm an artsy kind of guy... lol! Don't get any less reactionary then someone who wants to make up totally knew ways of social interaction... For example, I don't partcularly like authority. But if you don't make rules, someone else will. So I'd prefer to have a constitutional democracy where the rules are laidout flat and plain as day and people can discuss in court how to enforce them to their most extreme examples. (For example; should the second ammendment mean food stamps cover ammuniton? I think so... LOLOLOLOLOL!!!)

But I also know people are generally ignorant, and not to be trusted. Rather then risk creating a big brother state to try and force people not to be evil, I'd just much rather make them have to take a ris to change the law. Voting should require you have to play russian roullete. (And what's more communist then Russia?) They sit you down, spin the barrel, and there's a one in six chance you get your head blown off after you vote. The theory here is if you believe in something enough to make other people adhere to your principles, then you should have to risk your life the way they're going to have to change their's completely for you. And I would do it myself. I'd be the first ever person to vote like this and be glad too. Because I don't agree with abortion, or private ownership, or homosexuality, or ineternet moderation. But I have to putup with it don't I? So people should have to putup with me. THAT's equality!

I suppose the roullete voting does not have to be quite so intense and if you "get shot", you just can't vote in the next couple of elections or something. But that doesn't have enough hate!!! Needs moar' h8!!!

Any of you familiar with Warhammer 40k? I'd love for the future of our world to be like The Imperium of Man. With "xenos, mutants, and heretics" which is the order of which they conside to be a threat, replaced with "gays, whiteknigts, and moderators". I thought of changing my name from Jim Profit to Commissar Fuklaw. (Yes, pronounced "Fuck Law"... lol!) Which is The Commissar of a fanfic of imperium faction called "The Angry Marines: Always Angry, All The Time!".

Amphictyonis
5th October 2010, 22:26
This guy is a 'legendary' troll who is ,well, a fascist. I remember him from myspace years ago.

(edit) Seriously. The guy is a fascist. He started some silly fascist "Falconist Party". I think he may also just be insane. He's beyond right wing.

Jazzhands
5th October 2010, 22:27
you post this in introductions, because it's an introduction.

Zanthorus
5th October 2010, 22:27
I gathered from previous discussion of this question that the reason fascists aren't allowed on the board is because in the country this site is hosted in (Germany), giving a platform to fascist views is illegal, and allowing them on the board could get the site shut down.

I'm not aware of where it says anything about banning 'bolshevisks or "pseudo-communists"', and in fact we have a great deal of Marxist-Leninists on this board.

As for the rest... tl;dr

PilesOfDeadNazis
5th October 2010, 22:33
This guy is a 'legendary' troll who is ,well, a fascist. I remember him from myspace years ago.
As do I, from back in the day.
More obsessed with anime than Communism.

ComradeOm
5th October 2010, 22:48
But then it says no bolshevisks or "pseduo-communists"The actual passage, if anyone is interested, is below:


Note: Fascists of all kinds are not allowed to post on RevLeft. This includes 'National Bolsheviks', 'third positionists' and all other pseudo-leftist fascists. Known fascists are not allowed to post here, no matter what they post

PilesOfDeadNazis
5th October 2010, 22:56
I doubt he knows th difference between National Bolsheviks and Bolsheviks. Just needing something to complain about...

Jim Profit
5th October 2010, 22:58
(edit) Seriously. The guy is a fascist. He started some silly fascist "Falconist Party". I think he may also just be insane. He's beyond right wing.
Oh I just love undercooked slander, omnomnomnom!

Cinc created the falconist party, not me. I just have been friends with cinc and told him if he really believed it, he should go with his feelings. There's things I don't agree with about him or the party's platform. But then that's bound to happen with anyone. And Cinc is not, nor is his party fascists. They wouldn't get trolled all the damn time by real fascists if they were. Cinc is just populist. Socially and fiscally. Which is closer to communism then booboo cryaby liberal socialism.

I bet you just throw around the word fascist so others take the bait. Have a little more credit in yourself that you can carry on an argument without having to try and put a target on someone.

Imposter Marxist
5th October 2010, 23:14
Accepting Fascism is anti- Communist.

Imposter Marxist
5th October 2010, 23:14
Hell, is anti-human.:mad:

Muzk
5th October 2010, 23:18
Hell, is anti-human.:mad:


But it's the same! :blink:

Widerstand
5th October 2010, 23:20
¡No Pasarán!

Amphictyonis
5th October 2010, 23:25
Oh I just love undercooked slander, omnomnomnom!

Cinc created the falconist party, not me. I just have been friends with cinc and told him if he really believed it, he should go with his feelings. There's things I don't agree with about him or the party's platform. But then that's bound to happen with anyone. And Cinc is not, nor is his party fascists. They wouldn't get trolled all the damn time by real fascists if they were. Cinc is just populist. Socially and fiscally. Which is closer to communism then booboo cryaby liberal socialism.

I bet you just throw around the word fascist so others take the bait. Have a little more credit in yourself that you can carry on an argument without having to try and put a target on someone.

I'll just go ahead and post links to your insane posts on myspace. You should just go away.


Immigration:
I’d cut spending on border patrol. Let the individuals band together and form vigilante groups to secure borders. I wouldn’t enforce illegal immigration either because you know what I think? I think when illegals realize their rights are not protected because they’re illegal. They’ll start coming legally. That’s all you gotta’ do! Deny them government services, deny them a fair trial, deny them all the things Americans take for granteed!


Healthcare/Social Security:
I’m for universal healthcare FOR CHILDREN. And a regulated healthcare system for adults. Adults should still have to pay.. Social security would be abloshed on the federal level and completely privatized.

War on Terror:
End it. Infact, stop occupying all the countries we’re in as most were do to our ties to Isral. At that point we cut military spending. And devote more time and energy to developing nukes. That way, when we do go to war.. It’s over before it even started! And there are countries I want to go to war with. China, North Korea, Russia..

Capital Punishment:
I oppose prison. It’s expensive and worthless. Abolish prisons and reform criminals through means of fining, direct punishment, and expriementation (no point in letting a body go to waste). Direct punishment can be many things, such as flogging, humiliation in a wide audience. My signature punishment is my annual "babykiller parade" I hold where women have to march naked painted in fake blood cradeling dolls that look like babies. As they march in the blistering cold and people can feel free to throw stuff at them, curse at them, etc. Cops stand on the float with beanbag shotguns. Beanbags won’t kill them, but it hurts like a *****. Incase they try to run away. Maybe after a complete embarassment they’ll learn abortion is wrong.

Abortion:
Obviously by my signature punishment. I detest all abortions. And find even the cases trying to appeal to my emotions to be misleading and downright sadistic. Getting raped does not excuse you from killing your child, you’re just using your circumstances as a copout. You’re worse then the fucking rapist! And retarded children are not somehow less then, if we truly wanted to avoid retarded children, we should implement eugenics and bar people from having children all together.

Infact, I’ve changed my stance on abolishing planned parenthood, and just forcing them to giveup their abortion advocacy. If they want to avoid women getting pregnant, fucking offer cheap visectemies. There’s a sure fire way to not get pregnant...

These bailouts:
I never supported the bailouts. The only exception was the banks because without the banks, what will become of our money? But then we shouldn’t bail them out, we should nationalize them. No private corporation should have that kind of power over the economy...

Gay Marriage:
I actually oppose all forms of marriage. I believe it is unesscaray and simply promotes beurocracy in ways we can tax people and socialy engineer them. So in theory I’d banish all forms of marriage off the legal books and don’t really care who you sleep with. I admittedly did vote yes on prop 8 to define marriage as between a man and a woman. In all honesty, it’s because at the time I was single, and figured, if I can’t be happy, then noone can. Atleast I can make all the faggots suffer...

Animal rights:
I would protect animal rights by barring the use of animal testing. Instead we will use humans. It’d be far more effective. Don’t worry, those who would be exprimented on would’ve probably been executed anyway. So they might as well serve the interest of society. This is only reserved for the most horrible of people. Like that guy who beat a five year old to death with a tire iron. Or maybe the prochoice if we need more "volunteers"...

I’d also put more restrictions on hunting. It’s not right to just go out and kill animals "for sport". They’re just trying to live their lives and some asshole starts shooting at them! I’d also tax meat. Far more then other food. I figure if you want to eat meat, then you should be willing to pay more. We’re in no worry of a starvation epidemic, and you don’t NEED meat to survive. People just like it. It’s a luxory. Luxories are not covered by inalienable rights. http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&entryID=72627945&categoryID=0&IsSticky=0&groupID=106817131&Mytoken=069C46A9-AAE1-4784-9CF0D819F929DC3B1161279000



(http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupprofile&groupID=106817131&categoryID=0&lang=en)

Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk
5th October 2010, 23:25
I really hope no one bothered wasting time reading that post.

Ele'ill
5th October 2010, 23:28
This site was definitelly not what I was expecting. I google communist forum, this comes up, and what do I see? Well I don't know, you tell me.

So... when you were looking for a communist forum you actually were not looking for a communist forum?


Before I even register, I see in bold *no fascists*. Whilest I can certainly see why communists and fascists wouldn't get along, it doesn't seem very communist to just disregard an entire group of political thinkers. Even if they're destructive and oppressing, the point is to expand on ideas and make all information and production avaliable.

I think it has to do with legal issues.



So already this is looking like shit.

Yet here you are- registered and posting away. :rolleyes:


But then it says no bolshevisks or "pseduo-communists". So now apparently only hardcore communists are allowed. Who defines who is a hardcore communist and who isn't? This is already looking dangerously uncommunist.

It's an internet forum- most forums- on the internet and in the real world- have basic guidelines- rules etc....

An example of this would be police accountability. You might at times want to talk to police if you're attempting to push for a more liberal agenda- but there will certainly be times when you'd want the lack of. The forum has such rules to keep things operating smoothly as this isn't a real life forum- it's a fairly permanent exchange of ideas.

Aside from this most of the people attracted to this board already know about and oppose those specific ideologies- there would be very little use in having people here from those ideologies as representatives.

At times- when certain people sneak in- they're allowed to stay for a period of time to post their (usually garbage) threads and discuss ideas.


Then I read a few topics, and whilest there is certainly some good discussions and valid points, I see way too many mods. Infact, one mod is too many. Because let me get this straight... you're anti-fascism, you're anti-stalinism, and yet you have moderators? At that very active moderators to "prevent trolling"? What is so frightening abou trolling that you have to give up on your principles just to prevent it?

They are mods because they're regular users and they have decent organizational skills. This is no different than a time keeper or someone who enjoys writing out ideas on a chalk board or erasable marker board at an actual meeting. They are not 'in charge' so much as they clean up clutter- I'm sure they deal with more shit coming from fellow leftist users than the occasional troll or whatever.

Also- it would be a security risk to give everybody moderator or admin privs on here because it is inherently an insecure medium- it's the internet.


This forum has already disproved communism, and that is sad. Because I'm a communist, I'm an admin at a communism page, and I would never do half this shit. I would not segregate the so-called "rightwing" to a specific forum and make them feel alienated or shunned, I wouldn't remind people they have to say or act a certain way, and I sure as hell would not tell people what the are and aren't. If they think they're an anarchist or a communist, then they are. Even if I disagree with them.

I think you're being silly- you had an agenda but you failed because you didn't think anything through. The rest of your post is trash.

bcbm
5th October 2010, 23:36
tl;dr, fuck off


Infact, one mod is too many

I'm an admin at a communism page

class traitor

Ele'ill
5th October 2010, 23:52
bcbm, I never realized you had 4k+ rep. Jesus Christ... I'm now going to not rep you anymore.

bcbm
5th October 2010, 23:56
if comrade a would only stop posting articles about maoists i could overtake him and retire

Magón
6th October 2010, 01:10
So is this guy another Nazbol or what? I read as far as the *NO FASCISTS* Paragraph and got bored.

Diello
6th October 2010, 02:13
I doubt he knows th difference between National Bolsheviks and Bolsheviks.

"Bolshevisks," please.

Apoi_Viitor
8th October 2010, 04:07
Why is he banned?

bcbm
8th October 2010, 04:13
because hes a homophobic piece of shit?

Apoi_Viitor
8th October 2010, 05:27
because hes a homophobic piece of shit?

He was one of the funnier trolls though...

Seriously, read some of this shit: http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3517&sid=5850117ea26aa4e495d883e2d1ddd921

http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=45129