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Rusty Shackleford
5th October 2010, 01:47
Is just that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4luLlDYeoe4


what a flimsy argument.

Ocean Seal
5th October 2010, 02:01
I guess my point is if trickle down economics are working so well then why the hell are there so many poor people. Why is the median income for a family $40,000 is the wealth has penetrated every crevice while trickling down. Huh Glenn Beck?

Q
5th October 2010, 02:03
Why don't we have this kind of propaganda?

Crux
5th October 2010, 02:06
Why don't we have this kind of propaganda?
We're not Rupert Murdoch?

Q
5th October 2010, 02:11
We're not Rupert Murdoch?

I wasn't talking about the bullshit argumentation. I was talking about the way it was presented. Cartoons which present an argument in an easy to grasp and funny way blow walls of text out of the water.

I thought that would be obvious.

Rusty Shackleford
5th October 2010, 02:13
i thought we had the story of stuff. soros has been late on my pay-checks but were all funded by george soros.

and the tides foundation.

Q
5th October 2010, 02:14
i thought we had the story of stuff. soros has been late on my pay-checks but were all funded by george soros.

and the tides foundation.

There are indeed a few exceptions.

Psy
5th October 2010, 02:17
Why don't we have this kind of propaganda?

We have have the videos of http://www.youtube.com/user/brendanmcooney

Ocean Seal
5th October 2010, 02:21
Why don't we have this kind of propaganda?

I know we could sum up a counter argument to this idea in five quick lines.

Workers pay a "tax" to the upper class.
The upper class gets rich off the "tax" that the workers pay.
The workers don't get anything out of the "tax."
The workers shouldn't pay this "tax"
QED: We shouldn't have an upper class


i thought we had the story of stuff. soros has been late on my pay-checks but were all funded by george soros.

and the tides foundation.

Wait what.

mlgb
5th October 2010, 02:28
i feel the trickle

Q
5th October 2010, 02:31
We have have the videos of http://www.youtube.com/user/brendanmcooney

This is actually pretty good :)

Fulanito de Tal
5th October 2010, 03:24
I wasn't talking about the bullshit argumentation. I was talking about the way it was presented. Cartoons which present an argument in an easy to grasp and funny way blow walls of text out of the water.

I think this guy does a good job: http://www.youtube.com/user/brendanmcooney


Edit: I just saw the prior post...derrrrrrrr

Rusty Shackleford
5th October 2010, 03:36
Wait what.
I watch glenn beck daily. so yeah that probably explains a lot of my sarcastic right wing statements on here.

Fulanito de Tal
5th October 2010, 03:50
We have have the videos of http://www.youtube.com/user/brendanmcooney

Maybe Glen Beck will get wind of this guy and start promoting his videos too! :lol:

¿Que?
5th October 2010, 03:56
Actually, I think this style of rhetoric was stolen from the left by the right. The only concrete example I can think of is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2hbzq25VAE
Sure, Michael Moore when he was all up on the Democrats. I don't think that invalidates my point.

I mean have you seen that fucking ridiculous Ben Slime movie Expelled? He's purposely trying to appropriate a style and method you'd not normally associate with creationists, which in my opinion is somewhat dishonest.

ckaihatsu
5th October 2010, 06:21
Why don't we have this kind of propaganda?


Maybe because we don't *need* it...?...!

Fun and games should be reserved for... well, fun and games. Our politics requires spoon-fed entertainment the way ammunition requires ice cream. Sure, maybe we could improve our "new media" outreach, but what's more to the point is giving people walls of text that help them to cut through the cute bullshit they see from the likes of 'Stick Figure Logic':

This is all *supply-side* economic "journalism" (propaganda), as usual. We're supposed to be *grateful* to the big pimps for "providing" for us with all the cash they've squeezed out of the billion new workers added to the world economy in the past 20-30 years. Since it's all exploitation of labor underlying the cash I think it would make more sense to celebrate the *sweatshop workers* instead....

The likes of Bill Gates have been acting quite lordly and manorial lately -- never mind that large purchases like family homes have to go through national-financial debt creation, regardless, so it's *your* credit worthiness -- based on *your* income (wages, etc.) -- combined with corporate financialized labor surplus value, that's more to the point rather than whether Gates or any other individual has the money *themselves* to "trickle down" or not.

In fact, the super-rich pimps and their wealth are so *removed* from the question of whether you'll get that home loan or not that they may as well just call themselves a "capital club" and save the money they spent to get that propaganda video made.

Here's the lowdown on Bill Gates' history, all at Wikipedia -- his alleged largesse in the present day derives from a position of ownership over a piece of software from 1969, software that was made freely available to computer users by 1976.





[...]

A high school friend of Allen and Gates, Ric Weiland, was hired to convert the 8080 BASIC to the 6800 microprocessor.

[...]

Hal also noted that rumors were circulating that Bill Gates developed BASIC on a Harvard University computer that was funded by the US government. Why should customers pay for software already paid for by the taxpayer?[23]

Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Monte Davidoff did use a PDP-10 at Harvard's Aiken Computer Center. The computer system was funded by the Department of Defense through its Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and was delivered in the middle of the night in 1969 at the height of the Vietnam War protests. Harvard officials were not pleased that Gates and Allen (who was not a student) had used the PDP-10 to develop a commercial product, but determined that this military computer was not covered by any Harvard policy; the PDP-10 was controlled by Professor Thomas Cheatham, who felt that students could use the machine for personal use. Harvard placed restrictions on the computer's use and Gates had to use a commercial time share computer until MITS provided access to a PDP-10 in Albuquerque.[24]

[...]

The [Tiny BASIC] project had started in late 1975 but the "Open Letter" motivated many hobbyists to participate. Computer clubs and individuals from all parts of the United States and the world soon created Tiny BASIC interpreters for the Intel 8080, the Motorola 6800 and MOS Technology 6502 processors. The assembly language source code was published or the software was sold for five or ten dollars.

[...]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists