Social equality

[etjusticepourtous]

Is this even possible?
Just by the simple fact that humans are greedy by nature.

[Apoi_Viitor]

Is this even possible?
Just by the simple fact that humans are greedy by nature.

Well, I'm going to make the assumption that you are not trollin...

So, answer these questions first: What is this "nature" that is innate to humans? How do we know humans are innately greedy? What is Social Equality? How would it contradict with man's innate nature? And is 'social equality' (whatever you define it as) really a goal of revolutionary leftism?

[etjusticepourtous]

Well, I'm going to make the assumption that you are not trollin...

So, answer these questions first: What is this "nature" that is innate to humans? How do we know humans are innately greedy? What is Social Equality? How would it contradict with man's innate nature? And is 'social equality' (whatever you define it as) really a goal of revolutionary leftism?

I'm not trolling. We see some kind corruption in every government on earth. Che Guevara was betrayed over for money, by the same people he was fighting for.

Social equality is a social state of affairs in which all people within a specific society or isolated group have the same status in a certain respect, money wise, education, and rights.

It would contradict with man's innate nature by a few of people who control most of the government, money, power or whatever. Doing with it whatever they want for personal reasons.

And is 'social equality' (whatever you define it as) really a goal of revolutionary leftism? I don't think it really is, that's why greed.

[Apoi_Viitor]

It would contradict with man's innate nature by a few of people who control most of the government, money, power or whatever. Doing with it whatever they want for personal reasons.

Is that "innate nature" or a by product of the simple fact that, all across the world, modes of production are in the hands of the few and not the many?

[etjusticepourtous]

Is that "innate nature" or a by product of the simple fact that, all across the world, modes of production are in the hands of the few and not the many?
Has to be, since the beginning of time there were cacique, emperors, divine people, and other stupid crap.

[Magón]

It depends on what kind of Leftism you're talking about, when it comes to Social Equality. Anarchists and Marxist-Leninists for example, have very differing views on Social Equality, or at least how it's panned out. (For this, you see lots of MLs calling Anarchists Utopian and whatnot.)

[Apoi_Viitor]

Has to be, since the beginning of time there were cacique, emperors, divine people, and other stupid crap.

Comrade, re-read (or read if you haven't already) the major works of Marx and Engels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx's_theory_of_history