The Vegan Marxist
2nd October 2010, 19:41
Triumph of the PSUV in Venezuela and death in combat of one of the leading men of the FARC
Monday September 27, 2010
Chury: Petras, how you doing?
Petras: It’s going very well. The results in Venezuela are a great thing for everyone at least for workers in Latin America
Chury: Okay Petras. I think that is a topic starter, I had great expectations for this beyond that to manifest or not but I think the results are confirming at least in a region very positive future, so we hope your analysis.
Petras: First we should note two things. Socialist forces won nearly 60% of all deputies in the new Assembly. Despite that the media want to give the image the government is losing. It’s very strange. No country in the world where a party, a government earns 60% of the deputies is considered defeated. Here the media as the New York Times, BBC, Al Jazzeera, Financial Times, said “a major defeat for Chavez.”
That’s part of the propaganda lie that every victory became defeat, whatever the government does have a downside.
Now, how do we explain that the government got a margin so great that no government in the world has achieved in recent times?.
1 °) We say that class polarization was the election between the economically dominant class and the popular classes, workers, the poor, lower middle class, that first class polarization was a decisive factor.
2 º) is the accumulation of benefits received by people in recent times.
3 º) freedom of debate that exists everywhere in Venezuela, the free flow of ideas, criticism and debate facilitated the victory.
4 º) The level of participation exceeds 64% which also involves a high vote of the masses and not the large abstention was the danger.
The fact that the government did not get the 2 / 3 is the reason that the media say the opposition won, when the reality is that the opposition only gets 39% of Members and in any context is a great defeat. There is a middle class, upper class, some industries and some academics social resentful when they have to choose between a left government consistently and always go right to the right.
This result is going to allow the government to deepen the process of socialization. Media continue to attack and the government will continue to receive more pressure to limit the possibilities to make changes.
With 60% of MPs is likely to continue the process of socializing the economy. The opposition may cause some debate, they may try to block any action and another, but the dynamics will strengthen the government on its ability to make changes. It will also give support for the presidential elections in 2012. Yes right now will be represented because the idiocy of abstention in past elections from almost 0 up to 39% of representation.
But this increase is simply because of the stupidity of organizing a boycott of the previous election. Now back to what is normal opposition of 40% of the population and that is what is left.
From that Latin America can breathe freely but the empire is trying to convince that it is a major defeat for Chavez. They are always ways to streamline and create images that do not correspond to reality.
Chury: Right now I have a story here. I say that the photographs of Mono Jojoy again reminded of the horrific scenes from Fallujah in 2004 and Gaza in 2009 when the invading armies against all international standard used phosphorus as a lethal weapon to leave their tunnels fighters and civilians who took shelter and no doubt has been with phosphorus has been killed also Commander Briceño, bodies like blown, semi melted like wax is proof of the presence of this chemical element used illegally as a weapon of war. I ask the significance beyond this, what reveals the new government of Colombia that has happened?
Petras: In the first instance is part of Uribe’s strategy, the former president, a war of scorched earth, destroying an entire region to try to break the rebel resistance.
The use of phosphorous bombs is a continuation of previous policy of lies by some commentators on the left, including some arrangements with Santos who thought we would see a change. The agreement is precisely Santos Chávez to withdraw troops from the border with Venezuela and concentrate on the internal war.
That’s what matters Santos: avoid social transformation. But triumphalism is exaggerated. It is true that the killing of Briceño was a blow to the FARC, but a person to die with 20 or 25 guerrillas not erase the fact that more than 8000 fighters still on the ground with the central management intact. It is very exaggerated the result of this military attack.
We must take into account something that is important, used many planes, helicopters and mobilized more than 1,000 soldiers in this operation. This implies that U.S. support was very important. But as in the past the fact that concentrate the attack in a fixed place is going to force the FARC to change tactics and the way they fight.
Whenever there is any loss they tend to adapt and change, eliminate areas that are fixed and more mobile forces to operate, less interconnected, with communications that are not capable of being intercepted.
The use of these bombs in war is a violation of international law because not only combatants but burn burning land, villages, towns around the places of combat.
Chury: This might warrant a UN investigation, but who can stop the UN investigation after what happened to Zionism, no? It is quite difficult.
Petras: The UN is not going anywhere without U.S. approval. Every time the UN declares rape, the U.S. acts in the Security Council to create obstacles for punishment. It is possible to launch an investigation but when dealing with socialist revolutionary movements and there is little chance of getting a majority at the UN for an investigation. If you try just attacks against civilian populations or human rights groups is more likely.
Even the Chilean Insulza, OAS Secretary General, congratulated the government of Santos and have sent their congratulations on the success of this military operation. This indicates that the OAS has not changed, which is simply a reflection of what it always was: an organization of American colonies.
What is interesting is that other countries like Ecuador, Venezuela, Argentina, Brazil congratulated the government of Colombia, not condemned, not commended for this new revival of militarism and that is also something worth mentioning.
Chury: Talk a little bit of Afghanistan, where things seem to be quite complex, even with more people trying to leave that to stay as the British, how’s that?
Petras: There is no doubt that the situation is improving by the anti colonial and anti-imperialist. On all fronts following the offensive, still low by U.S. troops, NATO and continue to lose influence from a very corrupt government. This is shown both on the military front where there are more losses this year since the invasion in Afghanistan. More troops dead, over 530 soldiers and we still have three more months in the year.
Nobody believes that the U.S. elections mounted to try to give legitimacy to the government. Both politically and militarily the cause is lost from the angle of the empire. That is why different countries are withdrawing troops.
Now, apart from Afghanistan have the news that Israel will end the moratorium or semi moratorium on the occupation and expansion of the settlers in Palestine. That must explain it. How Israel can be repeated in full scale expansion of settlement even though all countries in the world, including Europe, USA, Japan, China, condemned the reopening of the building? Explain how a small country with a miserable nineteenth century colonialist policy can do that?
The “progressive” does not necessarily want to understand why you have to put the emphasis on the Zionist power in America. Israel was convinced in advance that Washington would press Abbas, the Palestinian traitor, to continue discussions although Israel is eating more territory than it is the fragment of Palestine.
With the Zionists in power in Washington, the White House will not take no retaliation, no pressure on Israel to re-impose the moratorium. The Zionist leadership in Israel knows it has this enormous power and it began to act with impunity against the world.
Chury: What did you think the second movement, which performed at the head of the military leadership a few days ago with President Lugo of Paraguay, where they can stem this initiative?
Petras: I have much information about that Chury. Sorry but I can not comment on something that I have no source of information. What if I wanted to comment on some general strikes are pending. One that’s out on September 29 in Spain and one that will be the 6th and 7th October in Uruguay.
On the surface appear similar, a general strike is a strike, but it is not. In Spain the general strike is directed against the Zapatero government supposedly a progressive social democratic government, but with the austerity measures and the concentration of the aid of the banks has led to widespread discontent among the constituencies of their own party.
But in Uruguay, PIT-CNT leaders did not want to point to the neoliberal policies of Mujica. Just ask for a better distribution of wealth. No talk of bad government policy and the fact that in the last five years the percentage of new income that goes to the economic domes is very exaggerated, increased inequality, welfare cuts.
In Spain at least this very clear political goal of the general strike is a challenge, a confrontation with the government. While the leadership of the Pit-Cnt only making a strike very abstract, very general without any connection to the rulers, because in some sense are subordinate to and do everything possible to avoid a breakdown, a critical Cotran Aamplio Front government.
In Spain there are many assemblies throughout the country in factories, office planning, mobilizing and politicizing the general strike. It is an active mobilization. While in Uruguay leaders speak of that is a holiday, a day’s march, some speeches and the house. One should not confuse a general strike force, with a general strike politicized apolitical, diffuse and without many consequences.
http://www.lahaine.org/index.php?blog=3&p=48307
Monday September 27, 2010
Chury: Petras, how you doing?
Petras: It’s going very well. The results in Venezuela are a great thing for everyone at least for workers in Latin America
Chury: Okay Petras. I think that is a topic starter, I had great expectations for this beyond that to manifest or not but I think the results are confirming at least in a region very positive future, so we hope your analysis.
Petras: First we should note two things. Socialist forces won nearly 60% of all deputies in the new Assembly. Despite that the media want to give the image the government is losing. It’s very strange. No country in the world where a party, a government earns 60% of the deputies is considered defeated. Here the media as the New York Times, BBC, Al Jazzeera, Financial Times, said “a major defeat for Chavez.”
That’s part of the propaganda lie that every victory became defeat, whatever the government does have a downside.
Now, how do we explain that the government got a margin so great that no government in the world has achieved in recent times?.
1 °) We say that class polarization was the election between the economically dominant class and the popular classes, workers, the poor, lower middle class, that first class polarization was a decisive factor.
2 º) is the accumulation of benefits received by people in recent times.
3 º) freedom of debate that exists everywhere in Venezuela, the free flow of ideas, criticism and debate facilitated the victory.
4 º) The level of participation exceeds 64% which also involves a high vote of the masses and not the large abstention was the danger.
The fact that the government did not get the 2 / 3 is the reason that the media say the opposition won, when the reality is that the opposition only gets 39% of Members and in any context is a great defeat. There is a middle class, upper class, some industries and some academics social resentful when they have to choose between a left government consistently and always go right to the right.
This result is going to allow the government to deepen the process of socialization. Media continue to attack and the government will continue to receive more pressure to limit the possibilities to make changes.
With 60% of MPs is likely to continue the process of socializing the economy. The opposition may cause some debate, they may try to block any action and another, but the dynamics will strengthen the government on its ability to make changes. It will also give support for the presidential elections in 2012. Yes right now will be represented because the idiocy of abstention in past elections from almost 0 up to 39% of representation.
But this increase is simply because of the stupidity of organizing a boycott of the previous election. Now back to what is normal opposition of 40% of the population and that is what is left.
From that Latin America can breathe freely but the empire is trying to convince that it is a major defeat for Chavez. They are always ways to streamline and create images that do not correspond to reality.
Chury: Right now I have a story here. I say that the photographs of Mono Jojoy again reminded of the horrific scenes from Fallujah in 2004 and Gaza in 2009 when the invading armies against all international standard used phosphorus as a lethal weapon to leave their tunnels fighters and civilians who took shelter and no doubt has been with phosphorus has been killed also Commander Briceño, bodies like blown, semi melted like wax is proof of the presence of this chemical element used illegally as a weapon of war. I ask the significance beyond this, what reveals the new government of Colombia that has happened?
Petras: In the first instance is part of Uribe’s strategy, the former president, a war of scorched earth, destroying an entire region to try to break the rebel resistance.
The use of phosphorous bombs is a continuation of previous policy of lies by some commentators on the left, including some arrangements with Santos who thought we would see a change. The agreement is precisely Santos Chávez to withdraw troops from the border with Venezuela and concentrate on the internal war.
That’s what matters Santos: avoid social transformation. But triumphalism is exaggerated. It is true that the killing of Briceño was a blow to the FARC, but a person to die with 20 or 25 guerrillas not erase the fact that more than 8000 fighters still on the ground with the central management intact. It is very exaggerated the result of this military attack.
We must take into account something that is important, used many planes, helicopters and mobilized more than 1,000 soldiers in this operation. This implies that U.S. support was very important. But as in the past the fact that concentrate the attack in a fixed place is going to force the FARC to change tactics and the way they fight.
Whenever there is any loss they tend to adapt and change, eliminate areas that are fixed and more mobile forces to operate, less interconnected, with communications that are not capable of being intercepted.
The use of these bombs in war is a violation of international law because not only combatants but burn burning land, villages, towns around the places of combat.
Chury: This might warrant a UN investigation, but who can stop the UN investigation after what happened to Zionism, no? It is quite difficult.
Petras: The UN is not going anywhere without U.S. approval. Every time the UN declares rape, the U.S. acts in the Security Council to create obstacles for punishment. It is possible to launch an investigation but when dealing with socialist revolutionary movements and there is little chance of getting a majority at the UN for an investigation. If you try just attacks against civilian populations or human rights groups is more likely.
Even the Chilean Insulza, OAS Secretary General, congratulated the government of Santos and have sent their congratulations on the success of this military operation. This indicates that the OAS has not changed, which is simply a reflection of what it always was: an organization of American colonies.
What is interesting is that other countries like Ecuador, Venezuela, Argentina, Brazil congratulated the government of Colombia, not condemned, not commended for this new revival of militarism and that is also something worth mentioning.
Chury: Talk a little bit of Afghanistan, where things seem to be quite complex, even with more people trying to leave that to stay as the British, how’s that?
Petras: There is no doubt that the situation is improving by the anti colonial and anti-imperialist. On all fronts following the offensive, still low by U.S. troops, NATO and continue to lose influence from a very corrupt government. This is shown both on the military front where there are more losses this year since the invasion in Afghanistan. More troops dead, over 530 soldiers and we still have three more months in the year.
Nobody believes that the U.S. elections mounted to try to give legitimacy to the government. Both politically and militarily the cause is lost from the angle of the empire. That is why different countries are withdrawing troops.
Now, apart from Afghanistan have the news that Israel will end the moratorium or semi moratorium on the occupation and expansion of the settlers in Palestine. That must explain it. How Israel can be repeated in full scale expansion of settlement even though all countries in the world, including Europe, USA, Japan, China, condemned the reopening of the building? Explain how a small country with a miserable nineteenth century colonialist policy can do that?
The “progressive” does not necessarily want to understand why you have to put the emphasis on the Zionist power in America. Israel was convinced in advance that Washington would press Abbas, the Palestinian traitor, to continue discussions although Israel is eating more territory than it is the fragment of Palestine.
With the Zionists in power in Washington, the White House will not take no retaliation, no pressure on Israel to re-impose the moratorium. The Zionist leadership in Israel knows it has this enormous power and it began to act with impunity against the world.
Chury: What did you think the second movement, which performed at the head of the military leadership a few days ago with President Lugo of Paraguay, where they can stem this initiative?
Petras: I have much information about that Chury. Sorry but I can not comment on something that I have no source of information. What if I wanted to comment on some general strikes are pending. One that’s out on September 29 in Spain and one that will be the 6th and 7th October in Uruguay.
On the surface appear similar, a general strike is a strike, but it is not. In Spain the general strike is directed against the Zapatero government supposedly a progressive social democratic government, but with the austerity measures and the concentration of the aid of the banks has led to widespread discontent among the constituencies of their own party.
But in Uruguay, PIT-CNT leaders did not want to point to the neoliberal policies of Mujica. Just ask for a better distribution of wealth. No talk of bad government policy and the fact that in the last five years the percentage of new income that goes to the economic domes is very exaggerated, increased inequality, welfare cuts.
In Spain at least this very clear political goal of the general strike is a challenge, a confrontation with the government. While the leadership of the Pit-Cnt only making a strike very abstract, very general without any connection to the rulers, because in some sense are subordinate to and do everything possible to avoid a breakdown, a critical Cotran Aamplio Front government.
In Spain there are many assemblies throughout the country in factories, office planning, mobilizing and politicizing the general strike. It is an active mobilization. While in Uruguay leaders speak of that is a holiday, a day’s march, some speeches and the house. One should not confuse a general strike force, with a general strike politicized apolitical, diffuse and without many consequences.
http://www.lahaine.org/index.php?blog=3&p=48307