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Fulanito de Tal
30th September 2010, 19:10
I thought this article was interesting: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/fairness_of_elections


Tuesday, September 21, 2010

Fifty-five percent (55%) of Likely U.S. Voters say most members of Congress get reelected not because they go do a good job representing the folks at home but because election rules are rigged to their benefit. That’s a five-point increase from April of last year.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 15% of voters think most of those in Congress get reelected because they do a good job representing their constituents, down eight points from the previous survey. A sizable 30% aren’t sure which is right.

It’s worth noting that the word “rigged” is a strong term included in this survey question. The fact that more than half the nation’s voters believe the election rules are "rigged" is a testament to the continuing high levels of distrust in the country today.

Only one-in-five voters (21%) think the federal government today has the consent of the governed, a central requirement of the Declaration of Independence but a finding that has barely budged since February. Sixty-two percent (62%) say the government does not have that consent, and 17% are not sure.

Not surprisingly, the nation’s Political Class sees it differently. Sixty-six percent (66%) of Political Class voters say the federal government today has the consent of the governed. Seventy-eight percent (78%) of those in the Mainstream don’t share that perception.

Additionally, while 66% of Mainstream voters say most in Congress get reelected because the rules are rigged, 50% of those in the Political Class say it’s because they do a good job representing their constituents.

Overall, only 11% of all voters believe the average congressman listens most to the voters they represent rather than their party leaders in Congress. Eighty-two percent (82%) say the party leaders come first.

But then 60% say most members of Congress don’t care what their constituents think anyway.

These findings help explain why voters are “MAD AS HELL” the title of a new book by Scott Rasmussen and Doug Schoen. The book explores How the Tea Party Movement is Fundamentally Remaking Our Two-Party System and can be ordered at http://www.amazon.com, Barnes and Noble, http://www.borders.com/online/store/TitleDetail? and http://www.booksamillion.com/prod as well as http://www.indiebound.org/book/9780061995231http://www.indiebound.org/book/9780061995231. It’s also available in bookstores everywhere.

One Nation Under Revolt was the first of three excerpts published from the book. Part II describes The evolution of the Tea Party movement, while the final excerpt outlines The last hope for Democrats and Republicans to regain trust.

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on September 16-17, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Just under half (49%) now think U.S. elections are fair to voters, but 29% don’t believe that to be true and another 21% are undecided. Belief that elections are fair has ranged from 42% to 54% in Rasmussen Reports surveying over the past two decades.

A lot of voters (42%) still think a group selected randomly from the phone book would do a better job than Congress, but just as many (41%) disagree. Eighteen percent (18%) aren’t sure.

These findings show little change from just over a year ago.
While 54% of Mainstream voters think a random group from the phone book would do a better job that Congress, 91% of the Political Class disagree.

With midterm congressional elections less than two months away, only 10% of voters think Congress is doing a good or excellent job. That matches the low for this session of Congress.

Only 27% of voters now think their representative in Congress is the best possible person for the job, down six points from November of last year. Only 37% think their local congressional representative deserves reelection, compared to 42% who felt that way last fall.

Sixty-two percent (65%) believe it would be better for the country if the majority of Congress is thrown out this November.

Dimentio
30th September 2010, 19:22
The only problem with this is that it is Republican/Right-wing propaganda.

Fulanito de Tal
30th September 2010, 19:44
I think what's happening is that the general population is starting to feel the problems of the system and in turn hating it. The bad part is that the right has taken advantage of it and guided the uproar to be reactionary.

Red Commissar
30th September 2010, 20:50
The only problem with this is that it is Republican/Right-wing propaganda.

Also, by using "rigged", it implies that they either believe the system is workable, but has been corrupted by "politics as usual". The problem is they don't seem to see this is working as intended and there never was a good version of it to begin with.

There is definitely sentiment against the US political system, and it is not surprising considering the damage it does. Anti-establishment feelings have always been present in modern liberal democracies and in the past- the question is how those sentiments were handled. Did a movement spring up from them to genuinly affect change, or was it redirected into a "Let's take back our country!" type movement that doesn't really change anything in the end, like Dougal said.

fa2991
30th September 2010, 22:12
Before I take anything you post seriously, Dougal, you badly need to change your screen name.

WeAreReborn
1st October 2010, 00:55
Also, by using "rigged", it implies that they either believe the system is workable, but has been corrupted by "politics as usual". The problem is they don't seem to see this is working as intended and there never was a good version of it to begin with.

There is definitely sentiment against the US political system, and it is not surprising considering the damage it does. Anti-establishment feelings have always been present in modern liberal democracies and in the past- the question is how those sentiments were handled. Did a movement spring up from them to genuinly affect change, or was it redirected into a "Let's take back our country!" type movement that doesn't really change anything in the end, like Dougal said.
I think the main problem with America in general is that it was founded upon "liberty" and "freedom". Obviously, liberty and freedom is what all of us here are working for but democracy isn't the way to achieve it. However, most people have much too much faith in the founding fathers. This blind faith makes them hold onto the absolute shit that this country and government is. So any real change in the right direction will be called "unpatriotic" and "unamerican". So the only real chance of lasting and serious change will come when America turns to hell on earth. The worst part is, I can guess that America turning to hell isn't far away from what it is now.

Fulanito de Tal
1st October 2010, 00:58
This blind faith makes them hold onto the absolute shit that this country and government is. So any real change in the right direction will be called "unpatriotic" and "unamerican".

I had a teacher whom was also a lawyer. She mentioned in class once that you can't practically contest anything against the government that was done in the name of national security. You will always lose.

La Peur Rouge
1st October 2010, 01:08
but democracy isn't the way to achieve it.

Please explain.

I thought we were working towards true democracy.

WeAreReborn
1st October 2010, 01:25
Please explain.

I thought we were working towards true democracy.
Yeah in the true sense of the word you are correct. I was referring more towards the centralized body that people recognize as democracy and especially representative democracy in general. Sorry for the confusion.

La Peur Rouge
1st October 2010, 01:26
Was just confused, thanks for clearing that up.