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Kiev Communard
24th September 2010, 21:02
As I have got an information that Carlos Hugo, the "King" of diehard Carlist monarchists of Spain died today, I decided, just for the sake of curiosity, read an article about him on Wikipedia, and here what I got:


After alienating many Carlists with his attempts to approach Franco (1965–1967), Carlos Hugo switched to a leftist Titoist socialist movement. His mother, Madeleine of Bourbon, and his brother, Sixtus Henry of Bourbon, stood for traditional Carlism.

Carlos Hugo assumed Carlist leadership in August 1975. During the Franco regime, the organization of Carlism has been known as the Traditionalist Communion. After Franco's death, also the Carlist movement was badly split, and unable to get wide public attention again. In May 1976, a year after Franco's death, two Carlist sympathizers were shot down by far-right terrorists, among whom were Stefano Delle Chiaie and members of the Argentine Anticommunist Alliance (Triple A), with logistic support of Francoist elements inside Spanish intelligence agencies and the Civil Guard.[2][3] This incident became known as the Montejurra massacre.[4]

Carlos Hugo abandoned his Carlist claims in 1979 and became a naturalised Spanish citizen as Carlos-Hugo de Borbón-Parma y Borbón, by royal decree of King Juan Carlos. In 1980, he left the political arena, abandoning the new "Partido Carlista" which he had created. The party would later become a founding member of the United Left coalition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Hugo_of_Bourbon-Parma

And here is this party's site - http://partidocarlista.com/. It seems that they would find their ideological compatriots in Zyuganovite CPRF and Simonenkoite CPU, even though these Carlistas are actually far more left-wing than our "Communists" and probably would be considered "left-wing extremists" by them :D.

Red Commissar
25th September 2010, 01:16
Yeah, I read that entry as well. I would like more information about the movement too, but I think Carlos Hugo was trying to find something to rejuvenate interest in the rather moribund Carlist movement, but backed off when it ran contrary to traditional principles. After he left though, who exactly was leading the party?

Kléber
25th September 2010, 03:43
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i289/txapelgorri/2m.jpg

Is this just another reason to laugh at Carlists? Well, monarchist demagogues are nothing new I guess. Since Franco had repressed Carlists and Falangists as well as forcibly merging them together, it's no surprise that opportunism led a few Carlists to dabble in left-populist rhetoric like classical fascists.

An analogous weird ideological turnaround would be that the US Democrats, who were mostly staunch Confederates in the US Civil War, as well as founders and organizers of the KKK during the Reconstruction period, are now the center-left party, whereas people who sympathize with the Confederacy are now more likely to support the Republicans who abolished slavery and opposed the Southern elites.

Kiev Communard
25th September 2010, 08:56
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i289/txapelgorri/2m.jpg

Is this just another reason to laugh at Carlists? Well, monarchist demagogues are nothing new I guess. Since Franco had repressed Carlists and Falangists as well as forcibly merging them together, it's no surprise that opportunism led a few Carlists to dabble in left-populist rhetoric like classical fascists.

An analogous weird ideological turnaround would be that the US Democrats, who were mostly staunch Confederates in the US Civil War, as well as founders and organizers of the KKK during the Reconstruction period, are now the center-left party, whereas people who sympathize with the Confederacy are now more likely to support the Republicans who abolished slavery and opposed the Southern elites.

I think that these Carlists could be more precisely compared with Norodom Sihanouk "Royal Socialist" Sângkum Reastr Niyum, or Popular Socialist and Buddhist Community.

Red Commissar
26th September 2010, 17:49
Wait a minute, these scatterbrains still exist?

Dimentio
28th September 2010, 20:29
That saved my day :lol: