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Kez
31st July 2003, 00:35
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Lenin's Last Struggle
By Alan Woods
1970



The year 1999 marks the 75th anniversary of the death of the man who, together with Leon Trotsky, made a decisive contribution to the cause of socialism and the working class in this century, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. To mark the occasion, we are republishing this article which was originally written to commemorate the Lenin centenary in 1970.

The early symptoms of bureaucratic degeneration in Russia were already noted by Lenin in the last two years of his politically active life. He spent his last months fighting against these reactionary tendencies, leaving behind a vital heritage of struggle in his last letters and articles. The struggle of the anti-Stalinist Left Opposition, led by Trotsky after Lenin's death, really begins here.



In the last active period of his life, Lenin was chiefly absorbed by the problems of the Soviet economy under the New Economic Policy. In 1921, under the pressure of the millions of peasant small proprietors, the workers' state had been forced to retreat from the path of Socialist planning and industrialisation, in order to procure grain for the starving workers in the cities. The old Civil War practice of requisitioning grain had to be abandoned to placate the peasants, whose support was necessary if the workers' state was not to succumb to the reaction. A free market in grain was re-established, and concessions were made to the peasants and small traders, while the main levers of economic power (nationalised banks and heavy industries, state monopoly of foreign trade) remained in the hands of the workers' state.

This retreat which had been forced upon the Bolsheviks was not to create a Socialist, classless society but to save millions from starving to death, to re-build a shattered economy and to provide houses and elementary schools - i.e. to drag Russia into the twentieth century.

The triumph of socialism demands a development of the productive forces to a level unheard of in any previously existing society. Only when the conditions of general want and poverty are obliterated can the thoughts of man be raised to loftier horizons than the grinding, day-to-day struggle to live. The conditions for such a transformation already exist in the world today. For the first time in human history we can say truthfully that there is no longer any need for anyone to starve, to be homeless, to be illiterate.

The potential is there - in the science, technique and industry created by the development of capitalism itself which draws upon all the resources of the planet albeit in an incomplete, anarchic and undeveloped way. Only on the basis of an integrated, harmonious plan of production can this potential be realised. But this can only be carried out on the basis of common ownership of the means of production and a democratic socialist plan.

These elementary truths of Marxism were taken for granted by Lenin and the Bolsheviks. They did not lead the workers to victory in October 1917 with a view to "building Socialism" within the frontiers of the former Tsarist Empire, but to strike the first blow for the international Socialist Revolution:

"We have made the start," wrote Lenin on the fourth anniversary of the October Revolution. "When, at what date and time, and the proletarians of which nations will complete this process is not important. The important thing is that the ice has been broken; the road is open, the way has been shown."

For Lenin, the first significance of the Russian Revolution was the example it provided in the eyes of the workers of the world. The failure of the revolutionary wave which swept across Europe in the period 1918-21 was the decisive factor in the subsequent development. On the basis of a victorious European revolution, the enormous potential mineral wealth of Russia, its vast labour force, could have been linked to the science, technique and industry of Germany, Britain and France. A Socialist United States of Europe could have transformed the lives of the peoples of Europe and Asia and opened the way for a Socialist World Federation. Instead, as a result of the cowardice and ineptitude of the labour leaders, the European working classes faced decades of hardship, unemployment, Fascism and a new World War. On the other hand, the isolation of the only workers' state in the world in a backward, peasant country, opened the door to bureaucratic degeneration and Stalinist reaction.

The defeat of the German working class in March 1921 forced the Soviet Republic to look to its own resources in order to survive. In a speech on October 17, 1921, Lenin spelt out the consequences:

"You must remember that our Soviet land is impoverished after many years of trial and suffering and has no Socialist France or Socialist England as neighbours to keep us with their highly developed technology and highly developed industry. Bear that in mind! We must remember that at present all their highly developed technology and industry belong to the capitalists who are fighting us."

In order to survive, it was necessary to conciliate the desire of the peasant to make profit, even at the expense of the working class and the building up of industry - the only real basis for a transition to socialism.

The concessions given to the peasants, small businessmen and speculators ("Nepmen") staved off economic collapse in 1921-22. The trade between town and countryside was restored, but on terms greatly disadvantageous to the former. The reduction of taxes on the peasant cut into the funds necessary for investment in industry. Heavy industry stagnated, while much of light industry was in private hands. Even the revival in agriculture strengthened the capitalist, not the socialist element in Soviet society. Huge profits were made by the "Kulaks" (wealthy peasants), with the largest and most fertile farms and the capital necessary for equipment, horses and fertiliser. In fact, it soon became clear that under NEP, the difference between the rich and poor in the villages was growing at an alarming rate. The Kulaks took to hoarding grain to push up prices, even buying up the grain of the poor peasants to sell it back to them at a later date when prices rose.

These tendencies were watched with anxiety by Lenin, who repeatedly warned of the need for the working class to keep a tight rein on the levers of the economy. At the 4th Congress of the Communist International, in November 1922, Lenin put the matter in a nutshell:

"The salvation of Russia lies not only in a good harvest on the peasant farms - that is not enough; and not only in the good condition of light industry, which provides the peasantry with consumer goods - this, too, is not enough; we also need heavy industry. And to put it in good condition will require several years of work. Heavy industry needs state subsidies. If we are not able to provide them, we shall be doomed as a civilised state, let alone a Socialist state."

At this period Lenin grappled with the problem of electrification as a possible area where a breach could be made in the solid wall of Russian backwardness. Trotsky, on the other hand, was preoccupied with the overall state planning of industry, which had been practically lost sight of under NEP. All along he stressed the need to strengthen "Gosplan", the state Planning Agency, as a means of encouraging a general planned revival of industry. Lenin, at first, was distrustful of the idea - not because he rejected planning but because of the prevailing scourge of bureaucracy in Soviet institutions, which, he feared, would turn an enlarged and strengthened Gosplan into a paper game.

However different their approaches to this question, Lenin and Trotsky were in complete agreement about the urgent need to strengthen the Socialist elements in the economy and to end backsliding in the direction of "peasant capitalism". However, such was the pressure of the Kulak interest that even a section of the Bolshevik leadership began to bend. The question of which road the Soviet power would take was posed point-blank by the controversy over the monopoly of foreign trade which broke out in March 1922.

The monopoly of foreign trade, established in April 1918, was a vital measure for ensuring the socialist economy against the threat of penetration and domination by foreign capital. Under NEP the monopoly became even more important as a bulwark against the growing capitalist tendencies. Early in 1922, at Lenin's request, A.M. Lezhava drafted Theses on Foreign Trade which emphasised the need to strengthen the monopoly and strictly supervise exports and imports. Despite this, the Party Central Committee was split. Stalin, Zinoviev and Kamenev opposed Lenin's proposals and advocated the relaxation of the monopoly, while Sokolnikov, Bukharin and Pyatakov actually went so far as to call for its abolition.

On May 15, Lenin wrote the following letter to Stalin:

"Comrade Stalin,

"In view of this, please get a directive passed through the Politburo by collecting the votes of the members that "The CC reaffirms the monopoly of foreign trade and resolves that a stop be put everywhere to the working up of the question of merging the Supreme Economic Council with the Commissariat for Foreign Trade. All People's Commissars to sign confidentially and return the original to Stalin. No copies to be made."

At the same time he wrote to Stalin and to Frumkin (Deputy People's Commissar for Foreign Trade) stressing that a "formal ban should be put on all talk and negotiations, commissions etc. concerning the relaxation of the foreign trade monopoly."

Stalin's reply was evasive: "I have no objections to a 'formal ban' on measures to mitigate the foreign trade monopoly at the present stage. All the same, I think that mitigation is becoming indispensable."

On 26 May, Lenin suffered the first onslaught of his illness, which put him out of activity until September. In the meantime, in spite of Lenin's request, the question of "mitigating" the monopoly was raised again. On 12 October, Sokolnikov moved a resolution at the plenary session of the Central Committee, for the relaxation of the foreign trade monopoly. Lenin and Trotsky were absent, and the resolution was carried overwhelmingly.

On 13 October, Lenin wrote to the Central Committee through Stalin, with whom he had already discussed the matter. Lenin protested against the decision and demanded that the question should be raised again at the next plenum in December. Subsequently, Stalin wrote to members of the CC:

"Comrade Lenin's letter has not persuaded me that the decision of the CC was wrong…Nevertheless, in view of Comrade Lenin's insistence that fulfilment of the CC Plenary Meeting decision be delayed, I shall vote for a postponement so that the question may be again raised for discussion at the next Plenary Meeting which Comrade Lenin will attend."

On 16 October, it was agreed to postpone the matter till the next plenum. However, as the date of the plenum approached, Lenin became increasingly worried that the state of his health would not permit him to speak. On 12 December, he wrote his first letter to Trotsky asking him to take upon himself "the defence of our common opinion of the unconditional necessity of preserving and reinforcing the monopoly of foreign trade." The letters written by Lenin clearly indicate the political bloc that existed between Lenin and Trotsky at this time. They demonstrate Lenin's implicit faith in Trotsky's political judgements, a faith born of years of common work at the head of the Soviet state. And it is not accidental that at this time Lenin would turn to no-one else to defend his views on the Central Committee. Even his other confidants, Frumkin and Stomoniakov, were non-members of the Central Committee.

Learning of Lenin's preparations for a struggle and his bloc with Trotsky, the Central Committee backed down without a fight. On 18 December, the October resolution was unconditionally rescinded. The first round in the battle against the pro-Kulak element in the party leadership was won by the Leninist faction. The battle was continued after Lenin's death by Trotsky and the Left Opposition, who alone held high the banner and programme of Lenin in the teeth of the Stalinist political counter-revolution.

Friedrich Engels long ago explained that in any society in which art, science and government are the preserve of a minority, that minority will use and abuse its position in its own interests. Because of the isolation of the revolution in a backward country the Bolsheviks were obliged to call on the services of a host of former Tsarist officials to keep the state and society running. These elements, who had held the workers' government to ransom in the first days of the revolution gradually realised that the Soviet power was not going to be crushed by armed force. After the dangers of the Civil War had passed, many former enemies of Bolshevism began to infiltrate the state, the trade unions, and even the party.

The first "purge", in 1921, had nothing in common with the later grotesque frame-up trials of Stalin, in which the entire Old Bolshevik leadership were murdered. No-one was tried, killed or imprisoned. But special party commissions were set up to expel from the party the thousands of careerists and bourgeois who had joined in order to further their own interests. The offences for which people were expelled were "bureaucratism, careerism, abuse by party members of their party or Soviet status, violation of comradely relations within the party, dissemination of unfounded and unverified rumours, insinuations or other reports reflecting on the party or individual members of it, and destructive of the unity and authority of the party."

In order to carry out a struggle against bureaucracy, Lenin advocated the setting up of a "Commission on Workers and Peasants Inspection" (RABKRIN), as the highest arbiter and guardian of party morality, and as a weapon against alien elements in the Soviet state apparatus. At the centre of RABKRIN Lenin placed a man whom he respected for his organisational abilities and strong character - Stalin.

Amongst other important functions, RABKRIN scrutinised the selection and appointment of responsible workers in the state and party. Whoever had the power to hold up the promotion of some and advance others obviously held a weapon which could serve their own interests. Stalin did not scruple to use it for his. RABKRIN turned from a weapon against bureaucracy into a hotbed of careerist intrigue. Stalin cynically used his position in RABKRIN, and later his control of the party Secretariat, to gather around himself a bloc of yes-men - nonentities whose only allegiance was to the man who helped them climb into comfortable positions. From the highest arbiter of party morality, RABKRIN sank to the lowest depths of bureaucratic cynicism.

Trotsky noticed what was going on before Lenin, whose illness prevented his close supervision of party work. Trotsky pointed out that "those working in RABKRIN are chiefly workers who have come to grief in other fields," and drew attention to the "extreme prevalence of intrigue in the organs of RABKRIN which has become a by-word throughout the country."

Lenin continued to defend RABKRIN against Trotsky's criticisms. Yet in his last works we see that his eyes were opened to the threat of bureaucracy from this quarter and the role of Stalin who guided it. In his article How we should reorganise the Workers and Peasants Inspectorate, Lenin connected the question to the bureaucratic deformation of the workers' state apparatus:

"With the exception the Peoples Commissariat of Foreign Affairs, our state apparatus is to a considerable extent a survival of the past and has undergone hardly any serious change. It has only been slightly touched up on the surface, but in all other respects it is a most typical relic of our old state machine."

However, in Better Fewer, But Better, Lenin's last article, written on 2 March 1923, he delivered the most scathing attack on RABKRIN:

"Let us say frankly that the Peoples Commissariat of the Workers and Peasants Inspectorate does not at present enjoy the slightest authority. Everybody knows that no other institutions are worse organised than those of our Workers and Peasants Inspection, and that under present conditions nothing can be expected from this People's Commissariat."

In the same article, Lenin included a remark directed straight at Stalin: "Let it be said in parentheses that we have bureaucrats in our party offices as well as in other Soviet offices."

That Lenin singled out Stalin as the potential ringleader of a bureaucrats faction in the party is an example of his far-sightedness. At this particular time, Stalin's power in the "apparatus" was invisible to the majority even of party members, while most of the leaders did not believe him capable of using it, in view of his notoriously mediocre grasp of politics and theory. Even after Lenin's death, it was not Stalin, but Zinoviev who headed the "Troika" (Zinoviev, Kamenev, Stalin) which pushed the party on the first, fateful steps away from the traditions of October under the guise of an attack on "Trotskyism".

It was no accident that Lenin's last advice to the party was to warn it against Stalin's "disloyal" and "intolerant" abuse of power and to advocate his removal from the post of General Secretary.

The defeat of the European workers' revolution gave even more importance to the work of the Communist International for a revolution of the enslaved peoples of the East. The October Revolution gave a mighty impetus to the struggle of the colonies against their imperialist oppressors. In particular, the proud slogan of "The rights of nations to self-determination" emblazoned on the banner of Bolshevism gave heart to the downtrodden millions of Asia and Africa.

Almost the first act of the workers' government was to recognise the independence of Finland, although that inevitably meant granting independence to a hostile capitalist government. Naturally, Marxists stand firmly for the uniting of all peoples in a World Socialist Federation. But such unity cannot be brought about by force, but only by the free consent of the workers and peasants of the various countries. Above all, when the workers of a former imperialist nation take power, it is their bounden duty to respect the wishes of the peoples in the former colonies - even if they wish to secede. Unification can be brought about later, on the basis of example and persuasion.

In 1921, the Red Army was forced to intervene in Georgia, where the government had been consistently intriguing with Britain and other capitalist powers against the Soviet State. Lenin was extremely anxious that this military action should not be seen as the annexation of Georgia by Russia, thus identifying the Soviet state with the Tsarist oppressors. He wrote letter after letter instructing the Orzhonikidze, the representative of the Central Committee in Georgia, to pursue a "policy of concessions in relation to the Georgian intelligentsia and small traders," and advocating the setting up of a "coalition with Jordania or similar Georgian Mensheviks." On the tenth of March, he sent a telegram urging the need to "observe particular respect for the sovereign bodies of Georgia; to display particular attention and caution in regard to the Georgian population."

However, the activities of Orzhonikidze in Georgia were connected with the Stalin clique in the party. Stalin was working on proposals for the unification of the Russian Soviet Socialist Federation with the other, non-Russian Soviet Republics. In August 1922, while Lenin was out of action, a commission in which Stalin was the leading figure, was set up to work out the terms of unification.

When Stalin's theses appeared, they were firmly rejected by the Central Committee of the Georgian party. On 22 September, the Georgian Bolshevik leaders passed the following motion:

"The union in the form of the autonomisation of the independent republics, proposed on the basis of Stalin's theses is premature. A union of economic efforts and a common policy are necessary, but all attributes of independence should be preserved."

The protests of the Georgians went unheeded. Stalin was bent upon bulldozing through his proposals. The commission met on 23 and 24 September, under the chairmanship of Stalin's stooge Molotov. It rejected the Georgian resolution with one vote against (Mdivani the Georgian representative). On 25 September, the materials of the Commission were sent to Lenin, who was convalescing at Gorki. Without waiting for Lenin's views, and without even a discussion in the Politburo, the Secretariat (Stalin's centre in the party) sent the Commission's decision to all CC members in preparation for the October Plenum.

On 26 September, Lenin wrote to the Central Committee via Kamenev urging caution on this question and warning against Stalin's attempt to rush the business through. ("Stalin tends to be somewhat hasty.") Lenin had arranged to meet him the following day. He did not yet suspect the lengths to which Stalin had gone to force unification through. However, even this letter indicates his opposition to any affront to the national aspirations of a small people and thus strengthen the hold of nationalism.

"The important thing is not to provide material for the 'pro-independence' people, not to destroy their independence, but to create another new storey, a federation of equal republics."

Lenin's amendments were aimed to soften the tone of Stalin's original draft to make allowance for the "pro-independence" people, whom he considered, at this point, to be in the wrong. In answer to Lenin's mild comments, Stalin wrote to members of the Politburo on 27 September a number of abrupt and surly rejoinders, including the following:

"On the subject of paragraph four, in my opinion Comrade Lenin himself 'hurried' a little…There is hardly a doubt that his 'hurriedness' will supply fuel to the advocates of 'independence', to the detriment of the national liberalism of Lenin."

Stalin's rude reply was the expression of his unconcealed annoyance at Lenin's "interference" in what he considered his private domain, accentuated by fear at the outcome of Lenin's intervention.

Stalin's fears were well-grounded. Following his discussion with Mdivani, Lenin became convinced that the Georgian business was being mishandled by Stalin, and set to work accumulating evidence. On 6 October, Lenin wrote a memo to the Politburo, On Combatting Dominant National Chauvinism:

"I declare war to the death on dominant nation chauvinism. I shall eat it with all my healthy teeth as soon as I get rid of this accursed bad tooth."

The full significance of what had happened in Georgia had not yet come home to Lenin. He did not know that Stalin, in order to strengthen his hand had actually carried out a purge of the finest cadres of Georgian Bolshevism, replacing the old central committee with new and more "pliant" elements.

What he did know was sufficient to arouse Lenin's suspicions. In the following week he began quietly to collect information on the Georgian "affair", and got the Central Committee to send Rykov and Dzerzhinsky to Tiflis to investigate the complaints of the Georgian Bolsheviks.

On 23 and 24 December, Lenin began to dictate his famous letters to the Congress to his secretary. He stressed that this was to be secret. Lenin's work proceeded slowly, painfully, interrupted by bouts of illness. But through it all, the idea becomes increasingly clear that the central enemy lay within the bureaucratic "apparat" of the state and party, and the man who stood at its head, Stalin.

In The Real Situation in Russia, Trotsky records his last conversation he had with Lenin shortly before his second stroke. In reply to Lenin's suggestion that Trotsky should participate in a new commission to fight against bureaucracy (see "How to Reorganise the Workers and Peasants Inepectorate"). Trotsky replied as follows:

"'Vladimir Ilyich, according to my conviction, in the present struggle with bureaucratism in the Soviet apparatus, we must not forget that there is going on, both in the provinces and in the centre, a special selection of officials and specialists, party, non-party, and half-party, around certain ruling party personalities and groups - in the provinces, in the districts, in the party locals and in the centre - that is, the Central Committee, etc. Attacking the Soviet officials you run into the party leader. The specialist is a member of his suite. In such circumstances I could not undertake this work.'

"Then Vladimir Ilyich reflected for a moment and - here I quote him practically verbatim - said: 'That is, I propose a struggle with Soviet bureaucratism, and you want to add to that the bureaucratism of the Organisation Bureau of the party.' I laughed at the unexpectedness of this, because no such finished formulation of the idea was in my head. I answered, 'I suppose that's it.'

"Then Vladimir Ilyich said: 'Well, all right, I propose a bloc.' and I said: 'I'm always ready to form a bloc with a good man.'"

This conversation is important for the light it sheds on the content of Lenin's last works, especially the famous "Testament", the letters on the national question and Better Fewer, But Better. The tone of his letters gets increasingly sharp, his targets more clearly defined, with every day. No matter what question he deals with, the central thought is the same, the need to combat the pressure of alien class forces in state and party, the rooting out of bureaucracy, the fight against Great-Russian chauvinism, the fight against the Stalin clique in the party.

Despite Lenin's insistent requests that his notes be kept strictly secret, the first part of the "Testament" found its way into the hands of the Secretariat and Stalin, who immediately realised the danger of Lenin's intervention and took measures to prevent it from taking place. Severe pressure was put upon Lenin's secretaries to prevent Lenin from discovering any news which might "upset" him.

Nevertheless, Lenin found out from Dzerzhinsky that, among other outrages perpetrated by the Stalin faction, Orzhonikidze had gone so far as to hit one of the Georgian oppositionists. This may seem a small thing when compared to the later Stalinist terror, but it shocked Lenin profoundly. His secretary noted in her diary for 30 January, 1923 the words of Lenin: "Just before I got ill Dzerzhinsky told me about the work of the Commission and about the 'incident' and this had a very painful effect on me."

To understand the enormity of this crime, it is necessary to know about the relations between the Russian (more correctly Great-Russian) national and the national minorities who, under the Tsars, were treated with the same contempt and the same barbarous arbitrariness as the negroes and Indians were under the British Empire. The historic task of the Russian Revolution was to raise these despised minorities to the stature of full men, with their own rights and dignity. The idea of a representative of the Great-Russian nation abusing or striking a Georgian was a crime against proletarian internationalism, a Tsarist monstrosity which would have been punished in the most drastic matter - by expulsion from the party at the very least. That is why Lenin poured out his wrath against Stalin and Orzhonikidze, demanding "exemplary punishment for those responsible."

Stalin placed every obstacle in the way of Lenin's receiving information from Georgia. Numerous passages from the diaries of Lenin's secretaries give a clear picture of this bureaucratic harassment:

"On Thursday 25 January, he [Lenin] asked whether the materials [of the Georgian committee] had been received. I answered that Dzerzhinsky would not be arriving until Saturday. Therefore I had not been able to ask him.

"On Saturday I asked Dzerzhinsky, he said Stalin had the materials. I sent Stalin a letter, but he was out of town. Yesterday, 29 January, Stalin phoned, saying he could not give the materials without the Politburo. Asked whether I had not been telling Vladimir Ilyich things he was not to be told - how was it he was posted about current affairs? For instance, his article about the WPI (RABKRIN) showed that certain circumstances were known to him, I answered that I had not been telling anything and had no reason to believe he was posted about affairs. Today Vladimir Ilyich sent for me to learn the answer and said that he would fight to get the materials." (my emphasis - AW)

These few lines starkly reveal the bullying, bureaucratic manner with which Stalin attempted to defend his position against Lenin, whom he mortally feared, even on his death-bed. There can be no clearer illustration of Stalin's "rudeness" and "disloyalty" to which Lenin refers in his "Testament".

Lenin's distrustful attitude to the commission of Dzerzhinsky and the behaviour of the Central Committee is reflected in his instructions to his secretaries:

"1) Why was the old CC of the CP of Georgia accused of deviationism?

"2) What breach of discipline were they blamed for?

"3) Why is the Transcaucasian Committee accused of suppressing the CC of the CP of Georgia?

"4) The physical means of suppression 'bio-mechanics'.

"5) The line of the CC of the CP (of the RCP(B)) in Vladimir Ilyich's absence and in his presence.

"6) Attitude of the Commission. Did it examine only the accusations against the CC of the CP of Georgia or also against the Transcaucasian Committee? Did examine the 'bio-mechanics' incident?

"7) The present situation (the election campaign, the Mensheviks, suppression, national discord)."

But Lenin's growing realisation of the disloyal and dishonest methods of elements in the party leadership made him also distrustful of his own secretariat. Were they not also being gagged by Stalin?

"On January 24 Vladimir Ilyich said: 'First of all about this "secret" job of ours. I know that you are deceiving me.' To my assurances on the contrary, he answered 'I have my own opinion about that.'"

With difficulty, the sick Lenin managed to learn that the Politburo had accepted the conclusions of Dzerzhinsky's Commission. It was at this time (2-6 February) that Lenin dictated Better Fewer, But Better, the most outspoken attack on Stalin and the party bureaucracy yet. The Georgian events had convinced Lenin that the rotten chauvinism of the state was the most dangerous indication of pressure from alien classes:

"Our state apparatus is so deplorable, not to say wretched, that we must first think very carefully how to combat its defects, bearing in mind that these defects are rooted in the past, which, although it has been overthrown, has not yet been overcome…"

In his last public appearance at a political gathering, the Eleventh Congress of the RCP(B), Lenin had warned that the state machine was escaping from the control of the Communists: "The machine refused to obey the hand that guided it. It was like a car that is not responding to the steering, but going in the direction someone else desired as if it were being driven by some mysterious, lawless hand - God knows whose, perhaps of a profiteer, or of a private capitalist, or of both. Be that as it may, the car is not going quite in the direction the man at the wheel imagines, and often it goes in an altogether different direction."

The poison of nationalism, the most characteristic feature of all forms of Stalinism, had its roots in the reaction of the petit-bourgeois, the Kulak, the Nepman and the Soviet official against the revolutionary internationalism of October.

Lenin proposed to fight against this reaction at the forthcoming Congress, in alliance with Trotsky - the only member of the Central Committee he could trust to uphold his point of view.

He proposed to deal personally with the question of RABKRIN and was "preparing a bombshell" for Stalin. His conviction that the Party "apparat" was plotting to keep him out at all costs is illustrated by the remark of his secretary that "apparently, furthermore, Vladimir Ilyich has the impression that it was not the doctors who gave instructions to the Central Committee, but the Central Committee that gave instructions to the doctors."

Lenin's suspicions were only too well grounded. One of the ideas seriously canvassed on the Central Committee at this time was the printing of a special, single number of Pravda, especially for Lenin's consumption, in order to deceive him about the Georgian affair!

The argument that this was all for the good of Lenin's health does not hold water. As he himself explained, nothing agitated and upset him so much as the disloyal actions of CC members and the tissue of lies with which they were camouflaged. The real attitude of Stalin towards the dying Lenin was revealed in a truly monstrous incident involving Krupskaya, Lenin's wife - attempting to defend her sick husband from the rude importunings of Stalin, she was rewarded by crude abuse from the "loyal disciple". Krupskaya describes the incident in a letter to Kamenev dated 23 December 1922:

"Lev Borisovich,

"Concerning the brief letter written by me at Vladimir Ilyich's dictation with the doctors' permission, Stalin phoned me yesterday and addressed himself to me in the crudest fashion. I have not been in the party for just a day. In the whole 30 years I have never heard a single rude word from one comrade. The interests of the Party and Ilyich are not less dear to me than to Stalin. Now I need the maximum self-control. I know better than any doctor what can or cannot be said to Ilyich, because I know what upsets him and what doesn't, in any case better than Stalin."

Krupskaya begged Kamenev, a personal friend, to protect her "from rude interference in my personal life, unworthy brawling and threats," adding that as far as Stalin's threat of bringing here before a control commission was concerned: "I have no strength and no time to waste on such stupid squabbles. I am also a human being and my nerves are stretched to breaking point."

Lenin's threat to break off all comradely relations with Stalin and his accusations of "rudeness" in the "Testament" are often explained away by vague references to this incident. But in the first place, what Stalin did was not a "personal" matter but a grave political offence, punishable by expulsion from the Party. The offence is magnified by the fact that Stalin's position in the Party made it incumbent on him to root out such behaviour, not to champion it.

However, this "little incident" must be seen in its proper context. It is only the most distasteful and obvious of the manifestations of Stalin's disloyalty.

Lenin's last active days were spent organising his fight against the Stalin faction at the Congress. He wrote a letter to Trotsky asking him to take up the defence of the Georgian comrades, and to the Georgian leaders warmly committing himself to their cause. It should be noted that such emphatic expressions as "with all my heart" and "with very best comradely greetings" are very rarely met in the letters of Lenin, who preferred a more restrained style of writing. It was a measure of his commitment to the struggle. It should also be pointed out that Lenin's bloc constituted a political faction - what was later known by the Stalinists as an "anti-party bloc". The Stalinists had already organised their faction which controlled the party machine.

Fotieva, Lenin's secretary, took down Lenin's last notes on the Georgian question, evidently preparation for a speech at the Congress:

"Vladimir Ilyich's instructions that a hint be given to Stoltz that he [Lenin] was on the side of the injured party. Someone or other of the injured party to be given to understand that he was on their side. Three moments: 1) One should not fight. 2) Concessions should be made. 3) One cannot compare a large state with a small one. Did Stalin know? Why didn't he react? The name 'deviationist' for a deviation towards chauvinism and Menshevism proves the same deviation with the dominant nation chauvinists. Collected printed matter for Vladimir Ilyich."

On 9 March, Lenin suffered his third stroke which left him paralysed and helpless. The struggle against bureaucratic degeneration passed to Trotsky and the Left Opposition. But Lenin laid the foundation of the programme of the Opposition, against bureaucracy, against the Kulak menace, for industrialisation and Socialist planning, for Socialist Internationalism and workers' democracy.

ernestolynch
31st July 2003, 04:54
Trotskyite nonsense. You do realise that if you read stuff like that too much you will undergo a transformation into.....
































SUPER-TROT!
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Kez
31st July 2003, 11:10
yes....but any decent arguments against these HARD FACTS?

ernestolynch
31st July 2003, 11:27
Firstly - the above Trot-rot airbrushes out the fact that Trotsky was a Menshevik until the Bolsheviks were successful.

Names given by Trot to Lenin between 1903 and 1917 included: 'hideous', 'malicious' and 'morally repugnant'.

Lenin described Trot in 1911 as putting across 'Liberal views with a Marxist coating'.

Lenin in 1921 spoke out about forming factions within the Party. Trot went ahead and formed them anyway in 1923 and 1926.

A year later the CP voted on which line to follow - Leninism or Trotskyism.

Results:

Leninism 724,000
Trotskyism 4,000

Historical facts versus the opinions of a well-known Trot lunatic called Alan Woods?


I'll stick to facts. :lol:

Cassius Clay
31st July 2003, 20:02
So what did Lenin's fight against the 'Stalinist Beurcracy' actually include? Hmm I cant for the life of me find anywhere where Lenin actually calls Stalin a beuracrate let alone this whole 'Stalinist Beurcracy'. So Stalin disagreed with Lenin on some issues, but even that article admits Stalin wasn't the only one. Big deal. Lenin's 'fight' against Stalin is a disagreement over Georgia and calling Stalin 'rude' over something which was entirely personal (despite this according to Lenin's sister the rleationship between Stalin and Lenin was not only fine but Stalin was the only one who Lenin asked for).

Ofcourse it was a mistake for Stalin to lose his temper, but Mr Woods forgets to mention that Stalin offered to resign over the matter and the party rejected that. And who the hell here can say they've never swarn at someone? Atleast Stalin apologised and offered to resign.

No where does Lenin call Stalin 'Judas', 'scroundel' and 'Bonapartist'. Lenin made remarks about fighting 'beuracracy' this was a very right thing to do, but what Trots conviently ignore is that Stalin did to and funnily enough they both began to mention it when Lenin and the party took up the fight against Trotsky in the Trade Unions dispute in 1921. Trotsky was calling for use of military force and saying that workers should not be able to elect their officials. Lenin called Trotsky a beuracrate and a bonaprtist and Stalin to the applause of the party called Trotsky 'The patriach of all Beuracrates'. Guess Trotsky never forgot that one.

And precisly what is this 'Stalinist political counter-revolution'? I've never seen one Trot explain the difference between the USSR before 1924 and after. Ofcourse there was a difference but I doubt very much any Trot will tell you what it was.

See yeah.

Kez
31st July 2003, 23:52
thank you for the replies, Cass at least with your arguments you make one run around to read a book to counter your argument.

In reply to the other Stalinik, Trotsky realised his mistake as being a menshevik and said this to Lenin, and later joined the Bolsheviks, where he was the co-leader of the revolution.

i would liek to see your source on the elections ernest

Also, please dont quote shitty little words outta context, it simply doesnt work.

Cass, what exactly DID stalin say about Lenins wife? ive never read what he actually said.

Morpheus
2nd August 2003, 01:18
The "Stalinist Bureucracy" was created by Lenin & Trotsky between 1917-22. It then took on a life of it's own and offed most of the original revolutionaries.

"[The Bolsheviks] are preparing the governmental structures which those who will come after them will utilize to exploit the Revolution and do it to death. They will be the first victims of their methods and I am afraid that the Revolution will go under with them. History repeats itself; mutatis mutandis, it was Robespierre's dictatorship that brought Robespierre to the guillotine and pave the way for Napoleon." - Errico Malatesta, 1919

Most of the things attributed to Stalinism had their precursers in these first years of Bolshevik rule:

-state farms/"collectives" first established in 1918
-war on the peasants - grain requisitions under lenin / "liquidating the kulaks" and collectivization under stalin
-using torture to extract "confessions" was first used against striking workers in 1919
-One party state established in the first half of 1918
-persecuation of dissident party members began in 1921 with the decree banning factions
-suppressing independant labor organizations began in 1918

Of course Stalin took these things to an extreme beyond that of Lenin & Trotsky, but the precursers were there.

Vinny Rafarino
2nd August 2003, 08:02
I enjoy how Kamo calls Alan Woods' editorial "hard facts".

Let's just say that Alan Woods would love nothing more than tom bend over for little old Leon. I'm sure he has nightly fantasies about it. Being in the communist party since '83, I've had tio listen to Alan's bullshit for 20 years. I've seen his line of trot bullshit debunked more times than little Arnold Drummand said "what'choo talkin' 'bout Willis" I can see how Kamo at 15 years old would be much more versed in Alan's traitorous theories than me.

The best the Trots can ever do is bring up the "Stalin is rude" comment.

They never mention the fact that comrade Lenin gave far worse labels to the traitor Trotsky, several being cited right here.



Nice little bullshit spin you put on history there morpheus. Fox News would be impressed.

ernestolynch
2nd August 2003, 11:01
Well seeing as Morpheus must be a utopian anarchid judging by his avatar, he can hardly rely on facts when anarchism has not, in over 150 years, done anything for the working classes of the world EVER. It remains a philosophy for rich students in the First World.

Vinny Rafarino
2nd August 2003, 17:21
Perhaps Utopian anarKID would be a more appropriate title for morpheus comrade Lynch.

Morpheus
2nd August 2003, 22:16
Neither Lynch nor RAF have a rational response to what I said so they have to resort to insults. Anarchism is actually primarily rooted in the "third world," not the imperialist nations, and has been for over a century. See http://www.geocities.com/ringfingers/nonwe...westernweb.html (http://www.geocities.com/ringfingers/nonwesternweb.html) The "this is a philosophy for first world rich kids" is the exact same smear used by right-wingers to smear all anti-corporate activists. With marxist "successes" like Stalin & Mao who needs failures?


H.3.6 Is Marxism the only revolutionary politics which have worked?
http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secH3.html#sech36

Some Marxists will dismiss our arguments, and anarchism, out of hand. This is because anarchism has not lead a "successful" revolution while Marxism has. The fact, they assert, that there has never been a serious anarchist revolutionary movement, let alone an anarchist revolution, in the whole of history proves that Marxism works. For some Marxists, practice determines validity. Whether something is true or not is not decided intellectually in wordy publications and debates, but in reality.

For Anarchists, such arguments simply show the ideological nature of most forms of Marxism. The fact is, of course, that there has been many anarchistic revolutions which, while ultimately defeated, show the validity of anarchist theory (the ones in Spain and in the Ukraine being the most significant). Moreover, there have been serious revolutionary anarchist movements across the world, the majority of them crushed by state repression (usually fascist or communist based). However, this is not the most important issue, which is the fate of these "successful" Marxist movements and revolution. The fact that there has never been a "Marxist" revolution which has not become a party dictatorship proves the need to critique Marxism.

So, given that Marxists argue that Marxism is the revolutionary working class political theory, its actual track record has been appalling. After all, while many Marxist parties have taken part in revolutions and even seized power, the net effect of their "success" have been societies bearing little or no relationship to socialism. Rather, the net effect of these revolutions has been to discredit socialism by associating it with one-party states presiding over state capitalist economies.

Equally, the role of Marxism in the labour movement has also been less than successful. Looking at the first Marxist movement, social democracy, it ended by becoming reformist, betraying socialist ideas by (almost always) supporting their own state during the First World War and going so far as crushing the German revolution and betraying the Italian factory occupations in 1920. Indeed, Trotsky stated that the Bolshevik party was "the only revolutionary" section of the Second International, which is a damning indictment of Marxism. [Stalin, vol. 1, p. 248] Just as damning is the fact that neither Lenin or Trotsky noticed it! Indeed, Lenin praised the "fundamentals of parliamentary tactics" of German and International Social Democracy, expressing the opinion that they were "at the same time implacable on questions of principle and always directed to the accomplishment of the final aim" in his obituary of August Bebel in 1913! [Marx, Engels and Lenin, Anarchism and Anarcho-Syndicalism, p. 248] For those that way inclined, some amusement can be gathered comparing Engels glowing predictions for these parties and their actual performance (in the case of Spain and Italy, his comments seem particularly ironic).

As regards Bolshevism itself, the one "revolutionary" party in the world, it avoided the fate of its sister parties simply because there no question of applying social democratic tactics within bourgeois institutions as these did not exist. Moreover, the net result of its seizure of power was, first, a party dictatorship and state capitalism under Lenin, then the creation of Stalinism and a host of Trotskyist sects who spend a considerable amount of time justifying and rationalising the ideology and actions of the Bolsheviks which helped create the Stalinism (see section H.4 for a discussion of the Russian revolution).

Clearly, a key myth of Marxism is the idea that it has been a successful movement. In reality, its failures have been consistent and devastating so suggesting its time to re-evaluate the whole ideology and embrace a revolutionary theory like anarchism. Indeed, it would be no exaggeration to argue that every "success" of Marxism has, in fact, proved that the anarchist critique of Marxism was correct. Thus, as Bakunin predicted, the Social-Democratic parties became reformist and the "dictatorship of the proletariat" became the "dictatorship over the proletariat." With "victories" like these, Marxism does not need failures! Thus Murray Bookchin:

"A theory which is so readily 'vulgarised,' 'betrayed,' or, more sinisterly, institutionalised into bureaucratic power by nearly all its adherents may well be one that lends itself to such 'vulgarisations,' 'betrayals,' and bureaucratic forms as a normal condition of its existence. What may seem to be 'vulgarisations, 'betrayals,' and bureaucratic manifestations of its tenets in the heated light of doctrinal disputes may prove to be the fulfilment of its tenets in the cold light of historical development." [Toward an Ecological Society, p. 196]

Hence the overwhelming need to critically evaluate Marxist ideas and history (such as the Russian Revolution -- see sections H.4, H.5 and H.6). Unless we honestly discuss and evaluate all aspects of revolutionary ideas, we will never be able to build a positive and constructive revolutionary movement. By seeking the roots of Marxism's problems, we can enrich anarchism by avoiding possible pitfalls and recognising and building upon its strengths (i.e. where anarchists have identified, however incompletely, problems in Marxism which bear on revolutionary ideas, practice and transformation).

Vinny Rafarino
3rd August 2003, 00:01
Perhaps one day you may even be able to write your own post. Until then good luck in your "anarchist" endeavours!

synthesis
3rd August 2003, 00:48
anarchism has not, in over 150 years, done anything for the working classes of the world EVER. This is actually not true, historically speaking. There were more supporters of Proudhoun than of Marx in the Paris Commune, and the resistance to fascism in Spain primarily came from the Anarchists.

Anarchism is a good theory, I think, but lacks the rousing tone and intriguing language that made Marx's ideas the most important in the twentieth century.

Vinny Rafarino
3rd August 2003, 01:19
And we see how well the Spanish civil war turned out. A true testament to useless anarKID politics.

TXsocialist
3rd August 2003, 04:34
and the witty-one-lining stalinist fool strikes again. Be useful and write something that doesn't waste my time, boy.

Vinny Rafarino
3rd August 2003, 06:13
The irony is that this kid slags my witty one-liner by countering with a post consisting of one line



Whoops!


I bet you wish you could take that one back.

(I reckon theres an edit coming in the near future making his post more than one line!


He He. Too easy.

synthesis
3rd August 2003, 08:16
And we see how well the Spanish civil war turned out.

The anarchists fought until the death to fight fascism.

The Soviet Union merely crumbled from the inside, partially to Gorbachov's treachery but mostly to the ultimate inefficiency of the system.

By the way, would anyone care to remind me of the name of the incident wherein Lenin ordered striking dockworkers executed as a warning to other belligerent proletarians?

Vinny Rafarino
3rd August 2003, 08:29
Good ole' gorby was only back-end treachery. The real culprit is Khruschev.


Off to the Gulags for for the families of gorby and khruschev.


And all striking dock-workers.


No forgetaboutit...clip 'em.


You fail to mention what the "dock-workers" were "stiking" about.

socialist_chick
3rd August 2003, 10:40
Hi, im new here but I think you guys should grow up a bit, dont be so petty

sorry :rolleyes:

TXsocialist
3rd August 2003, 18:54
My favorite humor is irony, Stalin boy :)

Like I said in another post, I'm glad you're ilk are a fringe(of a fringe...) group of petty bourgeois soviet nostalgists.

elijahcraig
3rd August 2003, 21:22
I used to be an anarchist, now I am a Marxist. I can tell you that all that has been about Marxism, Lenin, or Stalin was one-sided rubbish. Anarchists are utopian by nature, they don't have what it takes to get past the revolution, they'd all sit down and cry if they had to deal with any actual problems ie civil war, imperialist war, famine...although I'm sure the genius of Proudhon's "labour-money" could solve it all. Read Capital and shut the fuck up.

Morpheus
3rd August 2003, 21:51
Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 3 2003, 01:19 AM
And we see how well the Spanish civil war turned out. A true testament to useless anarKID politics.
Yeah, you stalinists shot the Anarchists and restored Private Property. How "socialist" of you.

elijahcraig
3rd August 2003, 22:05
Yeah, you stalinists shot the Anarchists and restored Private Property. How "socialist" of you.

That's not exactly how it happened, you are being extremely one-sided. Stalin supported the Republicans, he did not know at the time (from what I can tell) that they were working with bourgeois and fascists.

Vinny Rafarino
3rd August 2003, 22:47
Originally posted by Morpheus+Aug 3 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Morpheus @ Aug 3 2003, 09:51 PM)
COMRADE [email protected] 3 2003, 01:19 AM
And we see how well the Spanish civil war turned out. A true testament to useless anarKID politics.
Yeah, you stalinists shot the Anarchists and restored Private Property. How "socialist" of you. [/b]
What an innane statement.


Thank you comrade Elijah for your retorts. Now I don&#39;t have to put this Anarkid up a gainst a wall and execute him and then send the next 12 generations of his family siberia for hard labour at one of my "gulags". Except of course for the girls. I like to bathe in the blood of virgins. Just like Stalin.

the SovieT
4th August 2003, 17:34
Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 11:10 AM
yes....but any decent arguments against these HARD FACTS?
not to be a ***** but read about Lenin´s fight against trotskism inside the politburo too..

that will give you some hard facts too

TXsocialist
4th August 2003, 17:56
you man factionalism?

I&#39;ve observed in my extensive talks with the USSR nostalgists(stalin-lovers), that they tend to replace "unquestionably necessary criticism of party short-comings" with factionalism.

Let me quote from the Party Congress, which stalin shut down:

"4. It is essential that every party organization be very strict in seeing to it that the unquestionably necessary criticism of party short-comings, that all analyses of the general party line, or stocktaking of practical experience results, that verification of the fulfilment of party decisions and of ways for correcting mistakes, etc., not be submitted for discussion by groups formed on the basis of some &#39;platform&#39; or other, but that they be submitted for discussion by all party members. For this purpose, the Congress directs that &#39;Discussion Pamphlets&#39; and special anthologies be published on a more regular basis. Every person who voices criticism must be mindful of the party&#39;s situation, in the midst of enemy encirclement, and must also, through direct participation in Soviet and party work, strive in practice to correct the party&#39;s mistakes. "

Cassius Clay
4th August 2003, 18:00
Wow a quote by Lenin on criticism and self-criticism. What does that prove? You are aware Stalin said and wrote similar things, and he was the one where Soviet Power actually was put into practice.

TXsocialist
4th August 2003, 19:45
right, as I said in another post, what he WROTE and DID were two different, and opposite things.

Scottish_Militant
28th August 2003, 15:21
Firstly - the above Trot-rot airbrushes out the fact that Trotsky was a Menshevik until the Bolsheviks were successful.

What alot of bullshit, I notice these Menshevik accusations are never backed up, I pressume that is because you cant they are not true

Then again, your weblink is to that pathetic &#39;antitrot&#39; website that contains nothing but bankrupt &#39;arguments&#39; that were denounced 40 or 50 years ago&#33;&#33;

Saint-Just
28th August 2003, 18:12
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 03:21 PM

Firstly - the above Trot-rot airbrushes out the fact that Trotsky was a Menshevik until the Bolsheviks were successful.

What alot of bullshit, I notice these Menshevik accusations are never backed up, I pressume that is because you cant they are not true

Then again, your weblink is to that pathetic &#39;antitrot&#39; website that contains nothing but bankrupt &#39;arguments&#39; that were denounced 40 or 50 years ago&#33;&#33;
I think most Trotskyists will admit Trotsky was a Menshevik at one time.

Scottish_Militant
28th August 2003, 18:29
Then they would be wrong wouldn&#39;t they

I answered this accusation on the ISF forum&#39;s after RAF had blurted it out in a typical Stalinist &#39;say now think later&#39; style.

Trotsky was never &#39;a Menshevik&#39;

YKTMX
28th August 2003, 23:00
Originally posted by Chairman Mao+Aug 28 2003, 06:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chairman Mao @ Aug 28 2003, 06:12 PM)
[email protected] 28 2003, 03:21 PM

Firstly - the above Trot-rot airbrushes out the fact that Trotsky was a Menshevik until the Bolsheviks were successful.

What alot of bullshit, I notice these Menshevik accusations are never backed up, I pressume that is because you cant they are not true

Then again, your weblink is to that pathetic &#39;antitrot&#39; website that contains nothing but bankrupt &#39;arguments&#39; that were denounced 40 or 50 years ago&#33;&#33;
I think most Trotskyists will admit Trotsky was a Menshevik at one time. [/b]
Yes, yet no Stalinists will admit they he lead the October Revolution and the Red Army.

ernestolynch
29th August 2003, 00:59
Did Tony Cliff mention how Trot saved a lot of his Tsarist mates and kept them as officers in the Red Army, instead of Communist soldiers?

Officers who would later collaborate with the Fascist?

Scottish_Militant
29th August 2003, 04:03
Oh really? Well Mr Lynch, Trotsky was not the one standing up in front of the whole world, proposing a toast to Adolf Hitler himself was he now?

Another baseless accusation from another stalinite lowlife, I see you avoid the &#39;Trotsky was a Menshevik&#39; issue too...

Cassius Clay
29th August 2003, 10:58
&#39;I cannot call myself a Bolshevik....We cannot be asked to recognise Bolshevism &#39;. (See Lenin Miscellany IV, Russian edition. pp. 302-03)

Trotsky May 1917.

ernestolynch
29th August 2003, 11:06
"In a word, the whole of Leninism at this moment is founded on lies and falsehood and contains the seeds of its own decay..."

Trotsky&#39;s letter to the Menshevik leader, Chkheidze, April 1 (very apt), 1913.

Trot went on to call for "the destruction of the very bases of Leninism"

Unsurprisingly Trot then tried to airbrush this letter out of history when the Party history was compiled in 1921. He claimed the readers would "not understand" and would be "confused".

Perhaps they would understand only too well.

No wonder Lenin called Trot "Judas".

the SovieT
29th August 2003, 11:34
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 11:06 AM
"In a word, the whole of Leninism at this moment is founded on lies and falsehood and contains the seeds of its own decay..."

Trotsky&#39;s letter to the Menshevik leader, Chkheidze, April 1 (very apt), 1913.

Trot went on to call for "the destruction of the very bases of Leninism"

Unsurprisingly Trot then tried to airbrush this letter out of history when the Party history was compiled in 1921. He claimed the readers would "not understand" and would be "confused".

Perhaps they would understand only too well.

No wonder Lenin called Trot "Judas".
Leninism didnt existed in 1913..
the term "leninism" apeard after Lenin´s death...
so im somewhat interessed in knowing where you got that quote...

Scottish_Militant
29th August 2003, 15:25
Me too SovieT, I can&#39;t find them anywhere. Even if I could it is typical that instead of addressing the issues at hand you would try to turn this thread into a &#39;lenins best friend&#39; debate, using petty quotes from pre-1917 that have nothing to do with politics.

It&#39;s also worth pointing out that you are still trying to worm out of the &#39;trotsky was a menshevik&#39; accusation :rolleyes:

Put up or shut up

ernestolynch
29th August 2003, 15:54
"In 1903, Trotsky was a Menshevik; he left the Mensheviks in 1904; returned to the Mensheviks in 1905 and paraded around with ultra-revolutionary phrases the while, and again turned his back on the Mensheviks in 1906...Trotsky plagiarises today from the ideas of one faction, tomorrow those of the other. When Trotsky tells the German comrades that he represents the &#39;general Party tendency&#39;, I am obliged to declare that he represents only his own faction..."

V.I.Lenin

Scottish_Militant
29th August 2003, 16:12
That is a truly pathetic and laughable attempt Lynch.

The Mensheviks did not even exist as a party in 1903&#33; If you are going to falsify quotes you could at least try a little harder, although you&#39;ll always be exposed in the end.

Let me show you something I first posted on ISF to denounce this ridicilous &#39;menshevik&#39; accusation.

Firstly, the split at the London Congress of 1903 did not take place on the question of a ‘stable, centralised and disciplined Marxist Party’ as it has been put many times before, but on the question of the composition of the central bodies of the Party and on one clause in the Party Rules. The differences only emerged during the twenty-second session. Prior to that, on every single political and tactical question, there was no disagreement between Lenin and Martov&#39;s ‘minority’.

The presentation of the differences as a clear cut split between Bolshevik ‘centralisers’ and Menshevik ‘anti-centralisers’ is a sheer fabrication, which has its origin in the slanders directed against the Bolsheviks by the Mensheviks after the Congress. On the famous clause on the Party Rules, Lenin himself remarked: "I would willingly respond to this appeal [i.e. for an agreement with the "Mensheviks"] for I by no means consider our differences so vital as to be a matter of life or death to the Party. We shall certainly not perish because of an unfortunate clause in the Rules&#33;”

After the Congress, when Martov and his supporters refused to participate in the work of the Iskra editorial board, Lenin wrote:

"Examining the behaviour of the Martovites since the Congress, their refusal to collaborate on the Central Organ…their refusal to work on the Central Committee, add their propaganda of a boycott - all I can say is that this is an insensate attempt, unworthy of Party members, to disrupt the Party - and why? Only because they are dissatisfied with the composition of the central bodies; for speaking objectively, it was only over this that our ways parted…" (Lenin, Works, vol. 7, page 34)

Time after time Lenin emphasised that between himself and the Martovite ‘minority’ there were no differences of principle, no differences so important as to cause a split. Thus, when Plekhanov went over to Martov, Lenin wrote:

"Let me say, first, of all, that I think the author of the article [Plekhanov] is a thousand times right when he insists that it is essential to safeguard the unity of the Party and avoid new splits - especially over differences which cannot be considered to be important. To appeal to peaceableness, mildness and readiness to make concessions is highly praiseworthy in a leader at all times, and at the present moment in particular." (ibid, page 115)

And Lenin goes on to oppose expulsions of groups from the Party, advocates the opening of the Party press, for the airing of differences "to enable these grouplets to speak out and give the whole Party the opportunity to weigh the importance or unimportance of these differences and determine just where, how and on whose part inconsistency is shown". (ibid, page 116)

In reality, the differences between Bolshevism and Menshevism were not at all clear in 1903, although the discussion revealed certain tendencies of conciliationism among the Mensheviks, or ‘softs’ as they were known. The two tendencies only crystallised subsequently, under the impact of events, and even then did not reach the point of a final break until 1912.

It is true that at the 1903 Congress, Trotsky found himself in the camp of Lenin&#39;s opponents. It is also true that Plekhanov, the future social-patriot, stood together with Lenin. The fact was - that the differences caught everyone by surprise, including Lenin himself, who at first did not grasp their significance. The real point at issue at the Second Congress was the transition from a small propaganda sect to a real Party, and on this question Lenin undoubtedly held a correct position. In later years Trotsky, who was always honest in relation to his mistakes, admitted his error without reservation, and stated that Lenin had always been right on this question&#33;

ernestolynch
29th August 2003, 16:34
When did Trot join up with Cde Lenin and the Bolsheviks? What was he before then?

Two questions, two facts please, no Trot-Rot.

Scottish_Militant
29th August 2003, 16:48
Don&#39;t tell me you have ran out of arguments already?? :lol:

I can see you are going into your robotic &#39;anti-trot&#39; mode, using all your nice funny terms like &#39;trot-rot&#39; (another diversion from the real issues)

I have already explained to you that the difference between the &#39;bolsheviks&#39; and &#39;mensheviks&#39; in 1903 were hardly political ones. I have shown you quotes from Lenin which back this up.

So why didn&#39;t Trotsky side with Lenin? I have already explained that Trotsky admitted he was wrong at the time, although again it was hardly over any important principles now was it?

You &#39;antitrots&#39; are insane, you dig up (and make up) any quotes you can find to make Trotsky look bad, yet you do not even know the difference between the bolsheviks and the mensheviks prior to the split

And probibly after it too

ernestolynch
29th August 2003, 17:00
Not answering the questions, then, Trot?

:lol: :o :P

Scottish_Militant
29th August 2003, 17:26
I have answered your question.

You have ignored my answer&#33;

Vinny Rafarino
30th August 2003, 01:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 03:25 PM
Me too SovieT, I can&#39;t find them anywhere. Even if I could it is typical that instead of addressing the issues at hand you would try to turn this thread into a &#39;lenins best friend&#39; debate, using petty quotes from pre-1917 that have nothing to do with politics.

It&#39;s also worth pointing out that you are still trying to worm out of the &#39;trotsky was a menshevik&#39; accusation :rolleyes:

Put up or shut up
At the Second Congress of the Russian Social-Democratic Workers&#39; Party, held in Brussels and London in July 1903, Trotsky sided with the Menshevik faction—advocating a democratic approach to Socialism—against Lenin and the Bolsheviks. Shortly before this, in Paris, Trotsky had met and married Natalya Sedova, by whom he subsequently had two sons, Lev and Sergey.


After the II Congress in 1903 Trotsky was for a time associated with the Mensheviks, but in 1905 he developed an independent doctrinal line and between revolutions belonged to neither the Bolshevik nor the Menshevik wing. In 1905 he won renown for his brief chairmanship of the St. Petersburg Soviet of Workers&#39; Deputies. During the next few years he tried to reunite the Party and for that reason refrained form trying to build a faction of his own. None of the other groups found this pose to its taste. During the years just before World War I Trotsky&#39;s anti-factionalist stand became in effect an anti-Leninist one. After the war began he went to New York, and it was from there that he traveled to Russia in the spring of 1917. During the summer he joined the Bolshevik Party, although he clearly implied that his only reason for doing so was that the party had belatedly adopted the analysis and tactical line which he had espoused all along.


the Second Congress of the Social Democratic Labour Party in London in 1903, there was a dispute between Vladimir Lenin and Julius Martov, two of SDLP&#39;s leaders. Lenin argued for a small party of professional revolutionaries with a large fringe of non-party sympathizers and supporters. Martov disagreed believing it was better to have a large party of activists.

Julius Martov based his ideas on the socialist parties that existed in other European countries such as the British Labour Party. Lenin argued that the situation was different in Russia as it was illegal to form socialist political parties under the Tsar&#39;s autocratic government. At the end of the debate Martov won the vote 28-23 . Vladimir Lenin was unwilling to accept the result and formed a faction known as the Bolsheviks. Those who remained loyal to Martov became known as Mensheviks.

Gregory Zinoviev, Anatoli Lunacharsky, Joseph Stalin, Mikhail Lashevich, Nadezhda Krupskaya, Mikhail Frunze, Alexei Rykov, Yakov Sverdlov, Lev Kamenev, Maxim Litvinov, Vladimir Antonov, Felix Dzerzhinsky, Gregory Ordzhonikidze and Alexander Bogdanov joined the Bolsheviks.

Whereas George Plekhanov, Pavel Axelrod, Leon Trotsky, Lev Deich, Vladimir Antonov-Ovseenko, Irakli Tsereteli, Vera Zasulich, Moisei Uritsky, Noi Zhordania and Fedor Dan supported Julius Martov.



"communist" revolutionary. You are once again WRONG.


Comrade Lynch,


As the super Trot cannopt distiguish actual history versus his silly fnatsies, I will anser you questions;

A] The trot joined the Bolsheviks upon invation by comrade Lenin in 1917.

B]Prior to that he was aligned with Martov&#39;s line (menshevics) from 1903 -1905. In 1905 he saw the Menshevic line of thought being exposed for the drivel it was and quuickly severed his ties. (being the opportunist he was)

ernestolynch
30th August 2003, 08:00
Thanks Comrade RAF - I must admit, it was a bit silly of me asking for some revolutionary history from one of those Fake-Leftists such as "communist" Revolutionary. What a complete charlatan that fellow is. It&#39;s amazing how Snake-Oil Charmers and charlatans like himself get away with it for so long. What&#39;s not so surprising is how Trottism is positively encouraged by the authorities in the West, while Marxism-Leninism is stamped on.

May I ask another question to fill yet another hole in my knowledge of Trot.

What did Trot do from 1905 until 1917 when he joined the Bolsheviks? I heard he was a movie extra in New York for a period.

Oh and another - When and why did Lev start calling himself Trotsky? Was it to emulate the likes of Lenin and Stalin who HAD to assume false names as they were constantly pursued by the authorities?

Answers to both questions please, Trotsky-Fascists....

Scottish_Militant
30th August 2003, 08:50
Oh dear, it seems the Lynch child is even more brainwashed and gullaible than I first imagined :D

Did you like RAF&#39;s little story? A cut and paste from some Stalinite website of course

Sources? Quotes? Evidence? Nah, just a nice little stroty.

I gave you quotes to prove that the differences were very small and unclear in 1903 and thereabouts. I mean Plekhanov was &#39;with Lenin&#39; for fucks sake, but like a fly to a shite you swarm round RAF&#39;s farytale.

You are welcome to it.

"What did Trot do from 1905 until 1917 when he joined the Bolsheviks? I heard he was a movie extra in New York for a period."

Are you seriously this stupid??

"Oh and another - When and why did Lev start calling himself Trotsky? Was it to emulate the likes of Lenin and Stalin who HAD to assume false names as they were constantly pursued by the authorities?"

Trotsky had been to jail and exile many times. Does &#39;antitrot&#39; not provide you with all this info??

:rolleyes:

ernestolynch
30th August 2003, 08:59
Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2003, 08:50 AM


"What did Trot do from 1905 until 1917 when he joined the Bolsheviks? I heard he was a movie extra in New York for a period."

Are you seriously this stupid??

"Oh and another - When and why did Lev start calling himself Trotsky? Was it to emulate the likes of Lenin and Stalin who HAD to assume false names as they were constantly pursued by the authorities?"

Trotsky had been to jail and exile many times. Does &#39;antitrot&#39; not provide you with all this info??

:rolleyes:
Couldn&#39;t find the answers in one of those flashy Trot websites, or in your stack of unsold Socialist Workers then?

:lol:

I repeat for the Liberal Fake-Leftist "revolutionary":



What did Trot do from 1905 until 1917 when he joined the Bolsheviks? I heard he was a movie extra in New York for a period.

When and why did Lev start calling himself Trotsky? Was it to emulate the likes of Lenin and Stalin who HAD to assume false names as they were constantly pursued by the authorities?

Vinny Rafarino
30th August 2003, 09:45
Charlatan "Revolutionary",

Actually I cut and pasted this information from multiple sites, including a Trotskyist site. None of them were "stalinist" in nature.



Comrade Lynch,

I believe the Trot started using the name Leon Trotsky to avoid capture after his escape from exile in Siberia. This was a common practise among communists that were considered "wanted men". I am also aware you already knew this but simply posed the question to get the charlatan&#39;s bottle up. Good job

From 1905 to 1917 he lived in any country that would accept him. I have a source citing him as a street hustler in NY turning just enough tricks to support his morphine habit.

Saint-Just
30th August 2003, 15:00
I have a source citing him as a street hustler in NY turning just enough tricks to support his morphine habit.

Yes, I heard he lived in the Bronx for a while. A good place to &#39;pick up&#39; I suppose.

ernestolynch
30th August 2003, 15:43
What sort of movies did the twat feature in? Porn flicks I shouldn&#39;t wonder.

YKTMX
31st August 2003, 16:28
Post this shit in OI please.

ernestolynch
31st August 2003, 17:23
No answer, then, Cult-Boy?

:lol:

Pass the Kool-Aid&#33;

YKTMX
31st August 2003, 17:25
Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 05:23 PM
No answer, then, Cult-Boy?

What? To the acusation that one of the leaders of the October revolution paid for his heroin addiction by doing porn while living in the Bronx. No, I have no answer to that you fucking idiot.

Cassius Clay
31st August 2003, 18:17
Yeah lets add &#39;Glourious Leader of the Red Army&#39;. Nevermind that Trotsky fucked up to such a extent that the military demanded that &#39;he play no role in military affairs&#39; and that he was replaced by Marshall Frunze.

&#39;Lenin&#39;s closest comrade and best friend&#39;. Ignoring the fact that according to all sources (other than school books in the west and Trotsky&#39;s biography) it was Stalin who was closest to Lenin. Not that that matters, Trotsky is still yet to explain why he got less than 6000 votes. And that Lenin wrote entire articles against Trotsky.

Oh yeah and &#39;Innocent victim of Stalinist repression&#39;. All straight from the pages of every western history book.

So what was the difference between the USSR before 1924 and post 1924, let me guess it was a &#39;Beuracracy&#39;, LOL. That&#39;s right keep on trotting along to whatever Trot wrote 70 years ago. I mean such a Great man like Adolf Hitler recomended to his followers to read Trots biography. With such a endorsement who can say no?

Scottish_Militant
31st August 2003, 18:43
Quite right X, because it is simply untrue.

The ill informed child in all his stalinite wisdom asks "
What did Trot do from 1905 until 1917 when he joined the Bolsheviks?"

Perhaps we can long at some of the milestones and events in Trotsky&#39;s life before 1917

He began his revolutionary career in March 1897, in Nikolaev, where he organised the first illegal workers’ organisation, the South Russian Workers’ Union. He was arrested for the first time when he was only 19 years old and spent two and a half years in prison, after which he was exiled to Siberia. But he soon escaped and, using a false passport, succeeded in getting out of Russia and joining Lenin in London.

In 1902 Trotsky turned up on Lenin’s doorstep in London, where he joined the staff at Iskra, working closely with Lenin.

In March 1903, Lenin formally requested the inclusion of Trotsky as a seventh member of the Editorial Board. In a letter to Plekhanov, he wrote

"I am submitting to all members of the Editorial Board a proposal to co-opt "Pero" (the Pen) as a full member of the Board. (I believe that for co-option not a majority but a unanimous decision is needed.)

"We are very much in need of a seventh member both because it would simplify voting (six being an even number) and reinforce the Board.

"&#39;Pero&#39; has been writing in every issue for several months now. In general he is working for Iskra most energetically, delivering lectures (and with tremendous success) etc. For our department of topical articles and items he will be not only very useful but quite indispensable. He is unquestionably a man of more than average ability, convinced, energetic, and promising. And he could do a good deal in the sphere of translation and popular literature.

"We must draw in young forces: this will encourage them and prompt them to regard themselves as professional writers. And that we have too few of such is clear-witness 1) the difficulty of finding editors of translations; 2) the shortage of articles reviewing the internal situation, and 3) the shortage of popular literature. It is in the sphere of popular literature that &#39;Pero&#39; would like to try his hand.

"Possible arguments against: 1) his youth; 2) his early (perhaps) return to Russia; 3) a pen (without quotation marks) with traces of feuilleton style, too pretentious, etc.

"Ad 1) &#39;Pero&#39; is suggested not for an independent post, but for the Board. In it he will gain experience. He undoubtedly has the &#39;intuition&#39; of a Party man, a man of our trend; as for knowledge and experience these can be acquired. That he is hardworking is likewise unquestionable. It is necessary to co-opt him so as finally to draw him in and encourage him…"

However, Plekhanov, guessing that Trotsky would support Lenin, placing him in a minority, angrily vetoed the proposal.

Trotsky then moved on to Paris where he began to advance with remarkable success.

The events of the second congress and beyond deserve alot of attention, since you stalinites base most of your critiscism of Trotsky on this period. I will therfore include a small article explaining events.

A lot of nonsense has been written about the famous Second Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (RSDLP) without any of it explaining the reasons for the split. Every revolutionary party has to go through a fairly long stage of propaganda work and cadre building. This period, inevitably brings about a series of habits and ways of thinking which, over a period of time, can become an obstacle to transforming the party into a mass party. If the party proves incapable of changing these methods, when the objective situation changes, then it becomes an ossified sect.

At the Second Congress the struggle between the two wings of the Iskra group, which caught everyone by surprise, including those who were directly involved, was due to the incompatibility between Lenin’s position, which was that of consolidating a revolutionary mass party with some degree of discipline and efficiency, and that of the members of the old “Emancipation of Labour Group”, who felt comfortable in their routine, saw no need for any changes and who put down Lenin’s position to questions of personality, a desire to be in the limelight, “bonapartist tendencies”, “ultra-centralism” and all the rest of it.

Generally speaking it is a law of history that petit-bourgeois tendencies are organically incapable of separating political questions from personal questions. Thus, when Lenin, for entirely justified reasons, proposed removing Axelrod, Zasulich and Potresov from the Editorial Board of Iskra, they took it as a personal insult and caused a scandal. Unfortunately, the “old” activists managed to impress Trotsky, who, being young and impressionable, did not understand the situation and accepted at face value the accusations that were being made by Zasulich, Axelrod and the others. The so-called “soft” tendency represented by Martov emerged as a minority and after the Conference refused to abide by its decisions or to take part in the Central Committee or the Editorial Board. All Lenin’s efforts to find a compromise solution after the Congress failed because of the opposition of the minority. Plekhanov, who at the Congress had supported Lenin, proved incapable of standing up to the pressures of his old comrades and friends. In the end, in early 1904, Lenin found that he had to organise “majority Committees” (Bolsheviks) to salvage something from the wreckage of the Congress. The split in the party had become an accomplished fact.

Initially Trotsky had supported the minority against Lenin. This has led to the false account that Trotsky was a “Menshevik”. However, at the Second Congress, Bolshevism and Menshevism had not yet emerged as clearly defined political tendencies. Only a year later, in 1904, did political differences begin to emerge between the two tendencies, and these differences had nothing whatsoever to do with the question of “centralism” or “no centralism”. They were about the key question facing the Revolution: collaboration with the liberal bourgeoisie or class independence. As soon as the political differences emerged, Trotsky broke with the Mensheviks and remained formally independent from both factions until 1917.

Aged 26 Trotsky was the chairman of the Petersburg Soviet of Workers’ Deputies, the foremost of those bodies which Lenin described as “embryonic organs of revolutionary power”. Most of the manifestos and resolutions of the Soviet were the work of Trotsky, who also edited its journal Izvestia. On major occasions he spoke both for the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks and for the Soviet as a whole. The Bolsheviks, in Petersburg, had failed to appreciate the importance of the Soviet, and were weakly represented in it. Lenin, from exile in Sweden, wrote to the Bolshevik journal Novaya Zhizn, urging the Bolsheviks to take a more positive attitude to the Soviet, but the letter was not printed, and only saw the light of day, thirty-four years later. This situation was to be reproduced at every major juncture in the history of the Russian revolution; the confusion and vacillation of the Party leaders inside Russia, when faced with the need for a bold initiative, without the guiding hand of Lenin.

In 1905, Trotsky took over the journal Russkaya Gazeta and transformed it into the popular revolutionary paper Nachalo, which had a mass circulation, to put over his views on the revolution, which were close to those of the Bolsheviks and in direct opposition to Menshevism. It was natural that, in spite of the acrimonious dispute at the Second Congress, the work of the Bolsheviks and Trotsky in the revolution should coincide. Thus, Trotsky’s Nachalo and the Bolshevik Novaya Zhizn, edited by Lenin, worked in solidarity, supporting each other against the attacks of the reaction, without waging polemics against each other. The Bolshevik journal greeted the first number of Nachalo thus:

“The first number of the Nachalo has come out. We welcome a comrade in the struggle. The first issue is notable for the brilliant description of the October strike written by Comrade Trotsky.”

Lunacharsky recalls that when someone told Lenin about Trotsky’s success in the Soviet, Lenin’s face darkened for a moment. Then he said: “Well, Comrade Trotsky has earned it by his tireless and impressive work.” In later years, Lenin more than once wrote positively about Trotsky’s Nachalo in 1905.

As Chairman of the famous St. Petersburg soviet, Trotsky was arrested together with the other members of the soviet and exiled once more to Siberia after the defeat of the revolution. From the accused bench, Trotsky delivered a rousing speech from the dock which turned into an indictment of the tsarist regime. He was finally sentenced to “perpetual deportation” but in fact remained in Siberia for only eight days before escaping. In 1906 he again went into exile, this time to Austria, where he continued his revolutionary activity, launching a paper from Vienna called Pravda. With its simple and attractive style, Trotsky’s Pravda soon achieved a popularity which no other Social Democratic publication could match at the time.

The years of reaction following the defeat, were probably the most difficult period in the history of the Russian labour movement. The masses were exhausted after the struggle. The intellectuals were demoralised. There was a generalised mood of discouragement, pessimism and even of desperation. There were many cases of suicide. On the other hand, in this generalised reactionary situation, mystical and religious ideas spread like a black cloud over the intellectual circles, finding an echo inside the labour movement in a series of attempts to revise the philosophical ideas of Marxism. In these difficult years, Lenin dedicated himself to an implacable struggle against revisionism, for the defence of Marxist theory and principles. But it was Trotsky who provided the necessary theoretical basis upon which the Russian revolution could resurrect itself from the defeat of 1905 and go on to victory.

The experience of the 1905 Revolution brought out sharply the differences between Bolshevism and Menshevism—that is, the difference between reformism and revolution, between class collaboration and Marxism. The crux of the matter was the attitude of the revolutionary movement to the bourgeoisie and the so-called “liberal” parties. It was on this issue that Trotsky broke with the Mensheviks in 1904. Like Lenin, Trotsky poured scorn on the class collaborationism of Dan, Plekhanov and others, and pointed to the proletariat and peasantry as the only forces capable of carrying through the revolution to the end.

Even before 1905, during the discussions on the question of class alliances, Trotsky had developed the general lines of the Theory of the Permanent Revolution, one of the most brilliant contributions to Marxist theory. What did this theory consist of? The Mensheviks argued that the Russian revolution would be of a bourgeois-democratic nature and thus the working class could not aspire to taking power, but would have to support the liberal bourgeoisie. With this mechanical way of thinking, the Mensheviks were making a parody of the ideas of Marx on the development of society. The Menshevik theory of “stages” put off the socialist revolution to the distant future. In the meantime the working class was to behave as an appendix to the “liberal” bourgeoisie. This is the same reformist theory which many years later was to lead to the defeat of the working class in China in 1927, in Spain in 1936-39, in Indonesia in 1965 and in Chile in 1973.

Already in 1848, Marx noted that the German bourgeois “revolutionary democracy” was unable to play a revolutionary role in the struggle against feudalism, with which it preferred to do a deal out of fear of the revolutionary movement of the workers. It was at this point that Marx himself first advanced the slogan of “Permanent Revolution”. Following in the footsteps of Marx, who had described the bourgeois “democratic party” as “far more dangerous to the workers than the previous liberals”, Lenin explained that the Russian bourgeoisie, far from being an ally of the workers, would inevitably side with the counterrevolution.

“The bourgeoisie in the mass,” he wrote in 1905, “will inevitably turn towards the counter-revolution, towards the autocracy, against the revolution, and against the people, as soon as its narrow, selfish interests are met, as soon as it ‘recoils’ from consistent democracy (and it is already recoiling from it&#33;).” (Lenin, Collected Works, vol. 9, p. 98.)

What class, in Lenin’s view, could lead the bourgeois-democratic revolution?

“There remains ‘the people’, that is the proletariat and the peasantry. The proletariat alone can be relied on to march on to the end, for it goes far beyond the democratic revolution. That is why the proletariat fights in the forefront for a republic and contemptuously rejects stupid and unworthy advice to take into account the possibility of the bourgeoisie recoiling.”

Whom are these words directed against? Trotsky and the Permanent Revolution? Let us see what Trotsky was writing at the same time as Lenin:

“This results in the fact that the struggle for the interests of all Russia has fallen to the lot of the only now existing strong class in the country, the industrial proletariat. For this reason the industrial proletariat has tremendous political importance, and for this reason the struggle for the emancipation of Russia from the incubus of absolutism which is stifling it has become converted into a single combat between absolutism and the industrial proletariat a single combat in which the peasants may render considerable support but cannot play a leading role.” (Trotsky, Results and Prospects, p. 198.)

Again:

“Arming the revolution, in Russia, means first and foremost arming the workers. Knowing this, and fearing this, the liberals altogether eschew a militia. They even surrender their position to absolutism without a fight just as the bourgeois Thiers surrendered Paris and France to Bismarck simply to avoid arming the workers.” (Ibid., p. 193.)

On the question of the attitude to the bourgeois parties the ideas of Lenin and Trotsky were in complete solidarity as against the Mensheviks who hid behind the bourgeois nature of the revolution as a cloak for the subordination of the workers’ party to the bourgeoisie. Arguing against class collaboration, both Lenin and Trotsky explained that only the working class, in alliance with the peasant masses, could carry out the tasks of the bourgeois-democratic revolution.

But how was it possible for the workers to come to power in a backward, semi-feudal country like tsarist Russia? Trotsky answered this argument in the following manner:

“It is possible [wrote Trotsky in 1905] for the workers to come to power in an economically backward country sooner than in an advanced country…In our view, the Russian revolution will create conditions in which power can pass into the hands of the workers…and in the event of the victory of the revolution it must do so…before the politicians of bourgeois liberalism get the chance to display to the full their talents for governing.” (Trotsky, Results and Prospects, p. 195.)

Did this mean, as the Stalinists later claimed, that Trotsky denied the bourgeois nature of the revolution? Trotsky himself explains:

“In the revolution at the beginning of the twentieth century, the direct objective tasks of which are also bourgeois, there emerges as a near prospect the inevitable, or at least the probable, political domination of the proletariat. The proletariat itself will see to it that this domination does not become a mere passing ‘episode’, as some realist philistines hope. But we can even now ask ourselves: is it inevitable that the proletarian dictatorship should be shattered against the barriers of the bourgeois revolution? Or is it possible in the given world-historical conditions, that it may discover before it the prospect of breaking through these barriers? Here we are confronted by questions of tactics: should we consciously work towards a working-class government in proportion as the development of the revolution brings this stage nearer, or must we at that moment regard political power as a misfortune which the bourgeois revolution is ready to thrust upon the workers, and which it would be better to avoid?” (Trotsky, Results and Prospects, pp. 199-200, our emphasis.)

In 1905 Trotsky alone was prepared to defend the idea that it was possible that the socialist revolution would triumph in Russia before it did in Western Europe. Lenin still had an unclear position. In general, Trotsky’s position was very close to that of the Bolsheviks, as Lenin himself was later to admit. However, in 1905 only Trotsky was prepared to pose the need for the socialist revolution in Russia in such a clear and bold manner. Twelve years later history was to prove him right.

In the period of revolutionary upswing, the two wings of the movement had united once again. But unity had been more formal than real. But with the new lull in the movement, the tendency of the Mensheviks towards opportunism re-emerged once more, finding a clear echo in Plekhanov’s famous statement: “The workers should not have taken up arms.” The differences between the two tendencies once more emerged sharply. And again Trotsky found himself in a political position very similar to that of the Bolsheviks.

The real difference between Lenin and Trotsky in this period was not over politics but over Trotsky’s “conciliationist” tendency. To use an unkind expression, Trotsky was a “unity-monger”. However, he was by no means alone in this. Trotsky had consistently advocated reunification in his journal Nachalo, and had attempted to remain apart from the factional struggle, but was arrested and imprisoned for his role in the Soviet before the Fourth (Unity) Congress took place in Stockholm. The progress of the revolution had given a tremendous impulse to the movement for the reunification of the forces of Russian Marxism. Bolshevik and Menshevik workers fought shoulder to shoulder under the same slogans; rival Party committees merged spontaneously. The revolution pushed the workers of both factions together.

Throughout the latter half of 1905 there had been a continuous and spontaneous process of unity from below. Without waiting for a lead from the top, Bolshevik and Menshevik Party organisations simply merged. This fact partly expressed the workers’ natural instinct for unity, but also the fact, as we have already seen, that the Menshevik leaders had been pushed to the left by pressure from their own rank and file. Finally, at the suggestion of the Bolshevik Central Committee, including Lenin, moves were set afoot to bring about reunification. By December 1905 the two leaderships had effectively re-united. There was now one united Central Committee.

The Unity Congress was convened in May 1906 in Stockholm, but already by this time the revolutionary wave was ebbing, and with it, the fighting spirit and “Left” speeches of the Mensheviks. A conflict was inevitable between the consistent revolutionaries and those who were already abandoning the masses and accommodating themselves to the reaction. The defeat of the Moscow insurrection in December marked the beginning of the end of the 1905 Revolution. The December events also marked a decisive shift in the attitude of the so-called “liberals”. The bourgeoisie to a man (and woman) united in opposition to December “madness”. In point of fact, the Liberals had already passed over to reaction in October, after the tsar had conceded a new constitution. But now they emerged in their true colours. It was, of course, not the first time in history that we have seen such a phenomenon. Exactly the same thing occurred in the 1848 revolution, as Marx and Engels explained.

In effect, the Mensheviks stood for capitulation to the Liberal bourgeoisie which in practice had gone overt to constitutional Monarchism and surrendered to the autocracy. The essence of Lenin’s difference with the Mensheviks was precisely this:

“The right wing of our party does not believe in the complete victory of the present, i.e. bourgeois democratic revolution in Russia; it dreads such a victory; it does not emphatically and definitely put the slogan of such a victory before the people. It is consistently being misled by the essentially erroneous idea which is really a vulgarisation of Marxism, that only the bourgeoisie can independently “make” the bourgeois revolution, or that only the bourgeoisie should lead the bourgeois revolution. The role of the proletariat as the vanguard in the struggle for the complete and decisive victory of the bourgeois revolution is not clear to the Right Social Democrats.” (Lenin, Collected Works, vol. 10, pp. 377-8.)

Like Trotsky, Lenin was in favour of organisational unity, but did not for a moment abandon the ideological struggle, maintaining a firm position on all on basic questions of tactics and perspectives. In practice, while the Party was formally united, from the outset it was divided into two opposing tendencies—the revolutionary and the opportunist wings. Reformism or revolution, class collaboration or an independent proletarian policy. These were the basic questions which separated Bolshevism from Menshevism. The basic differences immediately emerged over the attitude to the Duma and to the bourgeois parties. On these fundamental questions, the position of Lenin and Trotsky was identical—as Lenin himself pointed out at the Fifth (London) Congress of the RSDLP (1907). In the course of the debate on the attitude to the bourgeois parties, Lenin commented:

“Trotsky expressed, in print [his agreement with the view] about the economic community of interests between the proletariat and the peasantry in the present revolution in Russia. Trotsky acknowledged the permissibility and usefulness of a Left bloc against the liberal bourgeoisie. These facts are sufficient for me to acknowledge that Trotsky has come closer to our views… [thus] we have here solidarity on fundamental points in the question of the attitude towards bourgeois parties.” (Lenin, Collected Works, vol. 12, p. 470, Lawrence and Wishart 1962 edition.)

Proceeding from a different standpoint, Trotsky was fighting for the same thing as Lenin. His paper Pravda based in Vienna enjoyed a great deal of popularity. A number of Bolshevik leaders favoured using Pravda for the purpose of bringing about a fusion of Bolsheviks and Pro-Party Mensheviks. In this Paris meeting, Kamenev and Zinoviev, now Lenin’s closest collaborators proposed the closing down of Proletary and moved that Pravda should be accepted as the official organ of the Central Committee of the RSDLP. This position was also supported by others like Tomsky. The proposal was, in effect, passed against the opposition of Lenin, who counter-proposed the setting up of a popular Bolshevik paper and monthly theoretical journal. In the end, a compromise was reached whereby Proletary would still come out, but not more than one a month. Meanwhile it was agreed to enter into negotiations with Trotsky with a view to making the Vienna Pravda the official organ of the RSDLP CC. This incident shows the strength of the conciliationist tendencies in the ranks of the Bolsheviks, and also tells us quite a lot about the attitude of the Bolsheviks towards Trotsky in this period.

Trotsky’s fundamental error in this period, as we have pointed out, lay in his “conciliationism”—the idea of the possibility of unity between Bolsheviks and Mensheviks. This was what was called “Trotskyism”. Trotsky used his paper, the popular Viennese Pravda for this purpose and for a time appeared to be on the point of succeeding. Many Bolshevik leaders were in agreement with him on this question. On the CC, the Bolsheviks N.A. Rozhkov and V.P. Nogin were conciliators, as also were the members of the editorial board of Sotsial Demokrat, Kamenev and Zinoviev.

Lenin’s heated denunciation of “Trotskyism” (i.e. conciliation) at this time were aimed at those Bolsheviks who were inclined to this position. See letter to Zinoviev 11 (24) August 1909. In these and other writings of this period, Lenin refers to Trotsky in very harsh terms.

It is not generally realised that the main reason for the sharpness of Lenin’s tone when polemicising against Trotsky during this period and right up to the February Revolution was precisely the persistence of such tendencies inside the Bolshevik Party. In reality, what was known as “Trotskyism” was precisely conciliationism. This was the charge which Lenin, not unjustly, directed against Trotsky at this time. The sharpness of Lenin’s language in these polemics was dictated by the fact that, under the guise of “Trotskyism”, he was really attacking conciliationist tendencies in the leadership of his own faction.

Trotsky had irritated Lenin by his refusal to join the Bolshevik tendency, although there were no real political differences separating them. He clung to the opinion that, sooner or later, a new revolutionary wave would push the better elements in both tendencies to join forces. By holding on to this “conciliationist” position Trotsky made the most serious mistake of his life, as he himself admitted much later. However, we should not forget that things were not so clear at the time. Lenin himself, on more than one occasion, tried to reach a rapprochement with certain layers within the Mensheviks. In 1908 he reached an agreement with Plekhanov and, according to Lunacharsky, he “dreamed of an alliance with Martov”. But experience was to prove this impossible. The two tendencies—the revolutionary and the reformist—were evolving in two opposite directions. Sooner or later a total break was inevitable.

On Trotsky’s initiative the move towards unity gave rise to a special Plenum to kick out the right wing liquidators and the ultra-left otzovists and establish unity between the Bolsheviks and left Mensheviks. Lenin opposed this. He opposed the participation in a Plenum of elements who, de facto, had placed themselves outside the party. In the end, Lenin’s scepticism was shown to be well-founded. The Mensheviks’ rightward drift had gone too far. The left wing Mensheviks (Martov) refused to break with the right wing and the attempt at unity soon broke down as a result of irreconcilable differences. Trotsky later honestly admitted his mistake on this question. Lenin drew the necessary conclusions and decisively broke with the Mensheviks in 1912—the true date of the establishment of the Bolshevik Party.

In 1911 a new period of struggles had opened up that continued until the outbreak of the First World War. The newly awakened working class rapidly gravitated to the left wing. Under these circumstances, the link with the Mensheviks was a hindrance to the development of the Party. Lenin’s decision to break with the Mensheviks and organise a separate party was entirely justified by events. Very soon the Bolsheviks represented the decisive majority of the working class: in the period 1912-14, four fifths of the organised workers of St. Petersburg supported the Bolsheviks. A central role was played by the launching of a Bolshevik daily paper, which took the name of Pravda, a move which further embittered relations with Trotsky. But all his protests were in vain. As far as the majority of active workers were concerned, the Mensheviks had been discredited by their policy of collaboration with the bourgeoisie.

Trotsky once again came out against the split, attempting, without success, to work for unity. It was this mistake that separated him from Lenin. However, it was an honest mistake, the mistake of a genuine revolutionary with the interests of the movement at heart. Many years later, Trotsky frankly dealt with his mistake. In 1924, Trotsky wrote to the Bureau of Party History :

“As I have many times stated, in my disagreements with Bolshevism upon a series of fundamental questions, the error was on my side. In order to outline, approximately in a few words, the nature and extent of those former disagreements of mine with Bolshevism, I will say this: During the time when I stood outside the Bolshevik party, during that period when my differences with Bolshevism reached their highest point, the distance separating me from the views of Lenin was never as great as the distance which separates the present position of Stalin-Bukharin from the very foundations of Marxism and Leninism.”

Thus, straightforwardly, honestly, Trotsky reveals, and explains his own mistakes and points out that on the question of conciliationism, Lenin had been right all along. However, far bigger developments were soon to render the old differences between Lenin and Trotsky irrelevant. The split in Russia was only an anticipation of another bigger split which was to take place two years later on an international level. And on this decisive question, Lenin and Trotsky were once again on the same side.

The First World War

The decision of the leaders of the parties of the Socialist International to support “their” bourgeoisie in 1914 was the biggest betrayal in the history of the world workers’ movement. It came like a thunderbolt, profoundly shocking and disorienting the ranks of the International. The position of the leaders of the Second International towards the First World War signified the de facto collapse of the International. From August 1914 onwards the war question concentrated the attention of socialists in all countries.

Very few people succeeded in keeping their bearings at this time. Lenin in Russia and Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht in Germany, the leaders of the Serbian Social Democrats, James Connolly in Ireland and John Maclane in Scotland were exceptions to the rule. From the very beginning Trotsky adopted a clear revolutionary position against the war, as expressed in his book The War and the International. At the Zimmerwald Conference in 1915, which brought together all the socialists who opposed the war, Trotsky was put in charge of drafting the Manifesto, which was adopted by all the delegates, in spite of the differences between them.

In Paris, Trotsky published a Russian journal that defended the principles of revolutionary internationalism, Nashe Slovo. They had only a handful of collaborators and even less money, but with enormous sacrifices they managed to publish the journal on a daily basis, a unique achievement, unequalled by any other tendency in the Russian movement, including the Bolsheviks at the time. For two and a half years, under the watchful eye of the censor, Nashe Slovo led a precarious existence until the French authorities, under pressure from the Russian government, closed down the journal. During a mutiny in the Russian fleet at Toulon, copies of Trotsky’s paper were found in the possession of some of the sailors, and using this as an excuse, the French authorities deported Trotsky at the end of 1916. After a short period spent in Spain, where Trotsky got to know the inside of Spanish prisons, he was again deported to New York, where he collaborated with Bukharin and other Russian revolutionaries in the publication of the paper Novy Mir. He was still working on this paper when the first confused reports came through of an uprising in Petrograd. The second Russian revolution had begun....

Comrades, it takes one sentance to create a lie, but many more to refute it&#33;

ernestolynch
31st August 2003, 21:09
To call Trot a leader of the October Revolution is like calling the SWP a revolutionary workers&#39; organisation. When did Trot join the Bolsheviki?

Can you not answer the question?

Why did he not believe in Bolshevism and Lenin&#39;s methods until the last minute?

Why did Lenin call Trot "Judas"?

Scottish_Militant
1st September 2003, 04:19
"To call Trot a leader of the October Revolution is like calling the SWP a revolutionary workers&#39; organisation. When did Trot join the Bolsheviki?"

I&#39;m not in the SWP so that petty &#39;attack&#39; means nothing to me.

BTW why don&#39;t you read my posts, ive answered this, Trotsky was invited to join the Bolsheviks in 1917 by Lenin, in a period where the revolution seemed further away than ever. But that is irrelivant, was he ever a &#39;Menshevik&#39;? No. His only crime was to remain independant outside both fractions and fight for unity (which was a mistake as I have already shown) - such a terrible crime though isnt it

“As I have many times stated, in my disagreements with Bolshevism upon a series of fundamental questions, the error was on my side. In order to outline, approximately in a few words, the nature and extent of those former disagreements of mine with Bolshevism, I will say this: During the time when I stood outside the Bolshevik party, during that period when my differences with Bolshevism reached their highest point, the distance separating me from the views of Lenin was never as great as the distance which separates the present position of Stalin-Bukharin from the very foundations of Marxism and Leninism.”

"Can you not answer the question?

Why did he not believe in Bolshevism and Lenin&#39;s methods until the last minute?"

Oh well it would appear that the question has changed somewhat. Trotsky and Lenin had ideological differences in certain periods before the revolution (find me anyone who didn&#39;t), what another terrible crime by the evil counter revolutionary &#39;trot&#39;&#33;

It seem&#39;s to me that you are attacking Trotsky for having a mind of his own, and not simply saying &#39;yes&#39; to the party leaders. If I was as petty as you I could compare this to the SWP....

"Why did Lenin call Trot "Judas"?"

Scraping the bottom of the barrell now arent we. This is the stalinite equivelant of &#39;Lenin called Stalin rude&#39;. This comment was made in a difficult period where the two men couldn&#39;t agree on a certain matter, as you can see though after 1917 all was forgotten and the only ones who remember this quote, and quotes like it, are the counter-revolutionary stalinites.

Vinny Rafarino
3rd September 2003, 00:24
It was merely a wee little period (about a decades worth of "wee") that the Trot was considered dodgy comrade Lynch. Other than that "wee" little decade, they were best fuckin&#39; mates. They hit the pubs together...went clubbing together...you name it, they did it&#33; They were like the Corey Feldman and Cory Haim of the 19th century.

They were like peas and carrots....oh wait, that was Forrest Gump and Jenny...nevermind.

Scottish_Militant
3rd September 2003, 19:26
RAF, you are consistent i&#39;ll give you that - consistently unpolitical are you&#39;re inane ramblings. What is your point here exactly? (seeing as you ignored my entire argument - again)

Lenin obviously didn&#39;t &#39;hate Trotsky&#39; or he wouldnt have invited him to join the Bolshevik party. Like I said, you dig up all these quotes from before the revolution, quotes that Lenin himself said were no longer relivant and were best forgotten. You really are pathetic :lol:

Vinny Rafarino
5th September 2003, 19:44
Piss off bolshevik1917. You&#39;re a fucking fugazi.


Yeah kid, you&#39;ve been found out.

Scottish_Militant
6th September 2003, 08:49
;) ;) ;)

It took you long enough....

Vinny Rafarino
6th September 2003, 10:31
Right. Like I actually had any inkling that you were actuallt the 18 year old punk that lipped off on ISF and got slammed. You simply got careless. I have no time for 18 (if you are even that old) kids parading around as a 60 year old Communist. Remember these words fugazi?

"I&#39;ve been reading marx and have been active in the communist party since the sixtees"


Pathetic. It&#39;s one thing to lie about your age to get "respect" from people who don&#39;t know you on an "INTERNET" forum but it&#39;s another to actually be stupid enough to get caught. Not because anyone was paying attention but simply because you&#39;re a moron. The little amount of respect I had for you (and believe me kid, it was not a lot) just went to nil. I reckon it&#39;s time for you to create another nickname and identity bolshevik1917. What&#39;s it gonna be this time kid? A forty rear old guerrilla revolutionary from South America?
How about Comrade Guevara&#39;s nephew? Or perhaps even the Trot&#39;s grandson.


You&#39;re pathetic. I have no use for you.

Scottish_Militant
6th September 2003, 12:59
It was merely a ploy to show how weak you&#39;re arguments were without the &#39;son&#39; thing (which you duly changed to &#39;pops&#39;) and it worked.

Could you ever refute any of my arguments? Nope. You were still absolutley hopeless at that ;)

"I wasnt carefull" Oh really, all you had to do was follow the link on my signature and all was revealed, alot of comrades knew from the start. You were so slow you were almost travelling backwards :lol:

And "you have no use for me" Well Stalinists usually don&#39;t, in fact they are so scared of Trotskyism you seen what they did to Trotsky himself and the lengths they went to do it.

RAF, move over and let real socialists in now...

ps. Im not 18, Im 20 :P

Vinny Rafarino
6th September 2003, 13:16
:lol:

Cassius Clay
7th September 2003, 17:04
Well I must admit that I didn&#39;t suspect for a moment.

Congratulations. Odd though that you still didn&#39;t respond in the &#39;Trotsky&#39;s Last years&#39; thread.