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Klaatu
23rd September 2010, 03:04
Disparate views on capitalism aired at UN
Iranian calls for new order
By Edith M. Lederer
Associated Press / September 22, 2010

UNITED NATIONS — Iran’s president yesterday predicted the defeat of capitalism and blamed global big business for the suffering of millions, but Germany’s chancellor said market economies were key to lifting the world’s least developed countries out of poverty.

The clash of visions at the UN antipoverty summit drew a line under stark differences on how to help 1 billion people living on $1.25 or less a day.

More than 140 presidents, prime ministers, and kings are attending the three-day summit that started Monday to assess and spur on achievement of UN targets set by world leaders in 2000. The plan called for an intensive global campaign to ease poverty, disease, and inequalities between rich and poor by 2015.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran, however, never mentioned the Millennium Development Goals in his speech to the General Assembly.

Instead, he took aim at capitalism and called for the overhaul of “undemocratic and unjust’’ global decision-making bodies dominated by the United States and other Western powers. While Ahmadinejad didn’t single out any country, he said world leaders, thinkers, and global reformers should spare no effort to make practical plans for a new world order — reform of international economic and political institutions.

“It is my firm belief that in the new millennium, we need to revert to the divine mind-set . . . based on the justice-seeking nature of mankind, and on the monotheistic world view,’’ the Iranian leader said in a brief speech.

Soon afterward, Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany, the world’s fourth-largest economic power, took an opposite tack.

Stressing that “the primary responsibility for development lies with the governments of the developing countries,’’ she said the key to economic prosperity is a flourishing capitalist economy.

“The countries themselves must promote the development of a market economy . . . for without self-sustaining economic growth, developing countries will find the road out of poverty and hunger too steep to travel,’’ Merkel said.

Oxfam, the aid organization, slammed Merkel’s address. Spokeswoman Emma Seery said the Germans had “failed to explain how they will meet their promises of aid to poor countries.’’

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon says the world is “on track’’ to cut extreme poverty by half.source
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2010/09/22/iranian_leader_calls_for_an_end_to_capitalism/

RadioRaheem84
23rd September 2010, 03:07
Wow, there really is a global talk on the future of capitalism?

The US has it tight so tight knit here that it's unfathomable to even debate it on air.

The Vegan Marxist
23rd September 2010, 03:19
Ohhh, this isn't going to be too good for Iran now. Not only are they independent from US relations, creating sufficient energy, & despite the sanctions being brought against them are able to acquire support through foreign trade, the leader of Iran is now speaking out against Capitalism. I won't be surprised at all if we soon start hearing an increase of propaganda being brought against Iran by US media.

Oh, & nb4 the "new world order" conspiracy theorist nuts (if any's left on this forum).

Nolan
23rd September 2010, 03:28
Mark my words, the days of hearing "Iran is socialist" rhetoric are around the fucking corner.

Amphictyonis
23rd September 2010, 03:29
source
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2010/09/22/iranian_leader_calls_for_an_end_to_capitalism/


"While Ahmadinejad didn’t single out any country, he said world leaders, thinkers, and global reformers should spare no effort to make practical plans for a new world order."




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPy8SnzRsqc

Not if Alex Jones can stop him!

The Vegan Marxist
23rd September 2010, 03:31
Oh one of those Alex Jones cult members will sniff this one out. It's got everything they need to fuel their bat shit crazy theories. Iran speaking out against capitalism & wanting to form what they call a "new world order". It won't surprise me one bit to see a response to this soon on InfoWars.

Amphictyonis
23rd September 2010, 03:32
Oh one of those Alex Jones cult members will sniff this one out. It's got everything they need to fuel their bat shit crazy theories. Iran speaking out against capitalism & wanting to form what they call a "new world order". It won't surprise me one bit to see a response to this soon on InfoWars.

With a paleoconservative christian fundamentalist twist- "Ahmadinejad is the antichrist!"

Amphictyonis
23rd September 2010, 03:36
Ohhh, this isn't going to be too good for Iran now. Not only are they independent from US relations, creating sufficient energy, & despite the sanctions being brought against them are able to acquire support through foreign trade, the leader of Iran is now speaking out against Capitalism. I won't be surprised at all if we soon start hearing an increase of propaganda being brought against Iran by US media.

Oh, & nb4 the "new world order" conspiracy theorist nuts (if any's left on this forum).

Damn, I didn't see the end of your post, you beat me to it. Anyhow, Washington's idiotic response? Arm Saudi Arabia and try to cause a war between Sunni (Saudi) and Shiite (Iran).


http://www.revleft.com/vb/60-billion-saudi-t141670/index.html

Crux
23rd September 2010, 04:01
Monotheism is anticapitalism?

The Vegan Marxist
23rd September 2010, 04:02
Monotheism is anticapitalism?

No, but it's not pro-capitalist either I don't believe.

Crux
23rd September 2010, 04:24
No, but it's not pro-capitalist either I don't believe.
Despite the opposition to usury, that's always been one of the more bendable religious laws. Ahmadinejad is no anticapitalist by any means.

Klaatu
23rd September 2010, 04:50
Despite the opposition to usury, that's always been one of the more bendable religious laws. Ahmadinejad is no anticapitalist by any means.

Good point. Money flowing into his coffers, and he's against it. (hmmm)

bailey_187
23rd September 2010, 21:25
He criticised Capitalism at the UN last year too....

Tzadikim
23rd September 2010, 21:42
It's a front. By airing what everyone knows to be the case, Ahmadinejad is positioning himself to be the voice of the "Non-aligned world" so-called. He means absolutely nothing by this line of rhetoric except to make himself look good in the eyes of the impoverished.

zimmerwald1915
23rd September 2010, 23:52
Really, the key phrase in that piece is "overhauling global decisionmaking bodies dominated by the United States." Ahmadinejad wants a shift in global economic influence away from the United States, and presumably a larger share of global economic influence for Iran. This is no more anti-capitalist than Target wanting to oust Wal-mart from eastern Pennsylvania (as a hypothetical example, no idea if this is actually happening) is anti-capitalist.

Red Commissar
24th September 2010, 03:16
It would have been interesting to see Hugo Chavez more than that joker tbh, but he's tied up with his elections.