"Maoist Rebel vs. RevLeft Round 2"

[Nolan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-aGAXfqqtQ&feature=sub

lololol

[The Red Next Door]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[graymouser]

Rev-visionist left! Ha.

[Raúl Duke]

Yo, pathetic Maoist loser,

No one cares.

P.S. Why should we give a fuck about copyrights? That's a capitalist concept, we are unrepentant dirty red bastards.

[ContrarianLemming]

I love him.

[The Red Next Door]

yo, pathetic maoist loser,

no one cares.

P.s. Why should we give a fuck about copyrights? That's a capitalist concept, we are unrepentant dirty red bastards.

hey i am a maoist, ya jerk from san juan

[Raúl Duke]

but I ain't talking about you

[Q]

As for his claim regarding the Che pic:


Current legal status

A 2009 highway billboard with Che's slogan of "Hasta la Victoria Siempre" (Until the Everlasting Victory Always).
For decades the famous image was unhindered by international copyright agreements, because Cuba was not a signatory to the Berne Convention. Fidel Castro described it as a "bourgeois concept" which meant that artists and advertisers were free to use Korda’s work as they pleased.[40] Legally, Cuban Law no. 156 signed on September 28, 1994, to amend part of Law no. 14 of the 1977 Copyright Act (Article 47), states that pictures taken in Cuba fall into the public domain worldwide, 25 years after their first use.[75] As for the United States, since the image was first published in Cuba without compliance of U.S. copyright formalities and used in Cuba before February 20, 1972 (more than 25 years before Cuba signed the Berne Convention in 1997) it is also generally, although not universally, considered to be in the public domain.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrillero_Heroico#Current_legal_status

*tralala*

[Pirate Utopian]

lol @ revisionist-left.

"Trying to discredit me" You? How could we?

And plenty of people say diss.

What's up with that red hubcap on his shirt?

[Nolan]

It's probably yet another portrait of Mao.

[Nachie]

this one has significantly lower production value than the first.

[Raúl Duke]

I would laugh if he quits/shut-down over revleft like revleft (allegedly) brought down MIM.

[Sam_b]

Didn't Kleber post a shit-ton of articles?

This guy is amazing.

[Sam_b]

ps nice badge bro

ps ps could anyone else give less of a fuck about 'stealing from the Cuban government' anyway?

[Q]

Didn't Kleber post a shit-ton of articles?

This guy is amazing.

Yeah, it's amazing how he can quote word-for-word the lead text, but "forget" all links linking his video's to WSWS. What a douche and moron.

[Sam_b]

But it is hilarious. See, this is what chit-chat is for, not rubbish troll polling.

[Raúl Duke]

It's like selective argumentation, making a strawman by omitting all the 'evidence' presented. Obviously, he's probably doing this for some "revolutionary rep/cred" from his viewers; some who may not even know that revleft exist. (perhaps bad press is good in this case)

[Il Medico]

Wasn't someone like "I hope this gets a video" in the thread where Kebler posted this. Hahahaha. MRN guy just got trolled hard and doesn't even know it.

Also, MoaistRebel, reveal yourself, I need to know who I should stop respecting.

EDIT: And now Kebler has posted up evidence. This just keeps getting better.

[Os Cangaceiros]

"You make accusations *****, you better back them up. Cuz you are definitely a thief, stealing from the Cuban government."

I literally burst out laughing at this line.

what a legend

[The Feral Underclass]

I hope we are stealing from the Cuban government.

[DragonQuestWes]

Wow. You guys are STILL fighting about this?

[Q]

Wow. You guys are STILL fighting about this?

Nah, some loser keeps posting video's for us to lol at :lol:

[The Feral Underclass]

What I don't understand is why this guy feels so compelled to make videos attacking those who criticise him. He must have major insecurity issues.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

So every kid wearing a Che T shirt, anybody with a Che tattoo, is committing intellectual property rights violation against the Cuban government? Does he have "connections" to get the Cuban gov't to pressure the German gov't to shut down RevLeft's server space?

This guy has access to chit chat so he's a "member" (yeah,yeah, I get it now...) Who is he?

[Os Cangaceiros]

Wow. You guys are STILL fighting about this?

If be "fighting", you mean "laughing, chortling and otherwise mocking MRN dude", then yeah, we are.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Didn't Kleber post a shit-ton of articles?


This guy has access to chit chat so he's a "member" (yeah,yeah, I get it now...) Who is he?

I'm pretty sure this guy is getting his information second-hand; that would explain how we was able to quote a post word-for-word (because it C+Ped into an email or something) but completely missed the links proving his plagiarism (because his informant was dishonest or just lazy).

[Nolan]

Someone should make a video listing the plagiarized material that Kleber listed, and upload those videos from MRN so he can't just delete them.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

1) This guy has a small penis. Extremely small. I mean, holy shit.
2) The internet is srz biz. His videos are srz biz.
3) This guy has a true dedication in believing the working-class will be emancipated via youtube. VIVA LA INTERWEBZ!

[Bilan]

wow...

[Lyev]

Oh man that was a great fap...

[Lyev]

Seriously though, I reckon this guy should lay down his military fatigues, slow down with the internet debates and whatnot, and get active IRL.

[Reznov]

Does he have to speak in such a monotone?

I mean jesus christ, i dont want to watch it because its so fucking boring.

[Queercommie Girl]

1) This guy has a small penis. Extremely small. I mean, holy shit.


WTF? :confused:

What does "penis size" have to do with anything?

I certainly don't defend this person but isn't this whole "glorification of penis size" thing highly phallo-centric? Are you suggesting that people with naturally smaller penises somehow have less worth or something?

If anything, I'd say the opposite, this guy is a fucking dickhead who thinks socialist politics is like showing off his "sexual prowess".

[Queercommie Girl]

This fucktard gives all Maoists a bad name.

In fact, I doubt he is a genuine Maoist at all, more likely just some kind of delusional petit-bourgeois Western kid who has played too many commie-themed video games.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Seriously though, I reckon this guy should lay down his military fatigues, slow down with the internet debates and whatnot, and get active IRL.

I disagree. He has much more value as an internet warrior, I think.

[Pirate Utopian]

Who else thinks his informant on RevLeft is TVM?

[Sir Comradical]

"Rev-visionist Left"

Hahaha, say what you want about the man, but that was a good one.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

What does "penis size" have to do with anything?

I certainly don't defend this person but isn't this whole "glorification of penis size" thing highly phallo-centric? Are you suggesting that people with naturally smaller penises somehow have less worth or something?
It was a joke, because he is very insecure.

[Tavarisch_Mike]

Haha and i suppose hi have asked Castro himselfe for wearing a copy of his uniform and smoking a cigar in all his stupid videos and he have asked the central comittee for using the soviet flagg in the backround :laugh:

[The Vegan Marxist]

Who else thinks his informant on RevLeft is TVM?

Of course, lead an attack against me because we tend to disagree with each other practically 100% of the time.

First of all, I'm not an informant to Maoist Rebel. It doesn't take that much to find out what's being said on RevLeft, given that it's a public forum & he seems to read from here every now & then. Second of all, I rarely ever talk with Maoist Rebel, given that I'm not in favor with everything he says, especially his pro-"9/11 was an inside job" rhetoric.

So how about actually claiming this bullshit of yours directly at me as well, rather than try & point fingers behind my back?

[fa2991]

"You make accusations, *****, you better back them up." :laugh:

See, THIS is why no one takes him seriously: he throws a fit over a god damn message board, as though RevLeft matters or is some great, trendsetting force that will discredit him. What a loser.

[EDIT: "Him" as used above = MRN, not TVM. Duh.)


Of course, lead an attack against me because we tend to disagree with each other practically 100% of the time.

First of all, I'm not an informant to Maoist Rebel. It doesn't take that much to find out what's being said on RevLeft, given that it's a public forum & he seems to read from here every now & then. Second of all, I rarely ever talk with Maoist Rebel, given that I'm not in favor with everything he says, especially his pro-"9/11 was an inside job" rhetoric.

So how about actually claiming this bullshit of yours directly at me as well, rather than try & point fingers behind my back?

Hmm... that tone sounds familiar. ;)

[The Red Next Door]

"You make accusations, *****, you better back them up." :laugh:

See, THIS is why no one takes him seriously: he throws a fit over a god damn message board, as though RevLeft matters or is some great, trendsetting force that will discredit him. What a loser.



Hmm... that tone sounds familiar. ;)

it not.

[The Vegan Marxist]

"You make accusations, *****, you better back them up." :laugh:

See, THIS is why no one takes him seriously: he throws a fit over a god damn message board, as though RevLeft matters or is some great, trendsetting force that will discredit him. What a loser.



Hmm... that tone sounds familiar. ;)

What's your fucking problem? All I did was respond to his claims. If that's going to make me someone to not be taken seriously, then maybe I don't want to be taken seriously.

[fa2991]

What's your fucking problem? All I did was respond to his claims. If that's going to make me someone to not be taken seriously, then maybe I don't want to be taken seriously.

I'm going to assume that you misread my post and that you're not making a clever joke that would imply that you're secretly MRN (if you're actually making a joke, then :thumbup1:).

I was talking about the MRN guy - the only part about you was the "That tone sounds familiar" part... and there's even a ;) at the end so you know I'm joking. Lighten up.

(EDIT:
What's your fucking problem? All I did was respond to his claims. If that's going to make me someone to not be taken seriously, then maybe I don't want to be taken seriously.

Wait, I think I see the source of the confusion: you misread my use of the word "over."

You thought that in


See, THIS is why no one takes him seriously: he throws a fit over a god damn
message board, as though RevLeft matters or is some great, trendsetting force that will discredit him. What a loser.I meant "over" meaning "through," and read it as


See, THIS is why no one takes [The Vegan Marxist] seriously: he throws a fit over a god damn
message board, as though RevLeft matters or is some great, trendsetting force that will discredit him. What a loserwhen, in actuality, I meant "over" as in "No use crying over spilled milk," which provides the proper definition of "over" that would make my sentence read (correctly) as


See, THIS is why no one takes [Maoist Rebel News] seriously: he throws a fit over a god damn
message board, as though RevLeft matters or is some great, trendsetting force that will discredit him. What a loser)

[The Vegan Marxist]

I'm going to assume that you misread my post and that you're not making a clever joke that would imply that you're secretly MRN (if you're actually making a joke, then :thumbup1:).

I was talking about the MRN guy - the only part about you was the "That tone sounds familiar" part... and there's even a ;) at the end so you know I'm joking. Lighten up.

(EDIT:

Wait, I think I see the source of the confusion: you misread my use of the word "over."

You thought that in

I meant "over" meaning "through," and read it as

when, in actuality, I meant "over" as in "No use crying over spilled milk," which provides the proper definition of "over" that would make my sentence read (correctly) as

)

Oh alright. Then I apologize for misreading what you stated. I thought you were implying it was me not being taken seriously & was being attacked.

[Magón]

WHO FUCK ON HERE STILL USES "DIS", YOU SLIMEY FUCKS!

I think I just orgasmed a bit? :lol:

[Q]

My money is on TVM.

[Pirate Utopian]

So how about actually claiming this bullshit of yours directly at me as well, rather than try & point fingers behind my back?
You can read what I wrote, I know you can. What fingers behind what back?

[Shokaract]

So much rage and indignation at an unfavorable forum post. o_o

[the last donut of the night]

get a life

[Sasha]

My money is on TVM.

didnt TVM have his own youtube channel? something that was only not as toecringing by comperison to maoist rebel news?

edit: o yeah, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/user/RedAntLiberationArmy

:lol:

[Honggweilo]

WHO FUCK ON HERE STILL USES "DIS", YOU SLIMEY FUCKS!

I think I just orgasmed a bit? :lol:

haha i thought he said "this" (he pronounced it so extremely posh). I was like "um.. everyone who speaks english?"

[Lyev]

I am interested in the name "RedAnt". It's a misnomer to compare a potential communist society to the way ants coordinate and carry out their existence, I think. The way ants live, quite clearly, is not even remotely communistic because they communicate via a complex series of chemical impulses and whatnot, whereas humans don't. The label irks me somewhat because it makes communism seem as though it wants to transform humanity's existence into a mass of homogeneous, efficiently coordinated robots.

edit: this is chit-chat so I dunno why I just posted all that.

[bricolage]

First of all, I'm not an informant to Maoist Rebel.
the internet is ridiculous.

[Sam_b]

50 Roubles on TVM!


You reckon they compare military shirts and keffiyeh tying techniques?

[Who?]

Was that guy ever a member of RevLeft?

[The Red Next Door]

I am interested in the name "RedAnt". It's a misnomer to compare a potential communist society to the way ants coordinate and carry out their existence, I think. The way ants live, quite clearly, is not even remotely communistic because they communicate via a complex series of chemical impulses and whatnot, whereas humans don't. The label irks me somewhat because it makes communism seem as though it wants to transform humanity's existence into a mass of homogeneous, efficiently coordinated robots.

edit: this is chit-chat so I dunno why I just posted all that.

I do not think that have anything to do with that, it goes back to an African saying, a million ants can take down an elephant or something like that. I think he means redant in that context.

[The Red Next Door]

50 Roubles on TVM!


You reckon they compare military shirts and keffiyeh tying techniques?

Stop hating, you hater.:rolleyes:

[Sam_b]

50 Roubles that TRND is a TVM sock!

[Pirate Utopian]

You reckon they compare military shirts and keffiyeh tying techniques?
Only if they have the time in between making marxist analysis of anime shows and vegan cooking.

[gorillafuck]

TVM isn't Maoist Rebel. Through some extremely keen facebook detective work I found TVM's facebook profile and they look different.

Edit: Oh wait you're all arguing over whether he's an informant, not whether he's the same guy. My bad.

[The Red Next Door]

50 Roubles that TRND is a TVM sock!

50 roubles that he is not.:rolleyes:

[fa2991]

I am interested in the name "RedAnt". It's a misnomer to compare a potential communist society to the way ants coordinate and carry out their existence, I think. The way ants live, quite clearly, is not even remotely communistic because they communicate via a complex series of chemical impulses and whatnot, whereas humans don't. The label irks me somewhat because it makes communism seem as though it wants to transform humanity's existence into a mass of homogeneous, efficiently coordinated robots.

If I recall correctly, it's a reference to how red ants sometimes kill their queens. It's kind of flawed, because ant colonies literally need the queen to survive.


TVM isn't Maoist Rebel. Through some extremely keen facebook detective work I found TVM's facebook profile and they look different.

:lol: Is there a reason you didn't just watch one of TVM's videos to see that they're different people?

[Kléber]

"MaoistRebelNews" makes a Freudian slip in this video. He refers to his videos as "articles" several times. However, the videos that were plagiarized from WSWS articles have never appeared as articles on the "MaoistRebelNews" blog (probably because that would make it easier to compare the words and verify the source).

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

50 roubles that he is not.:rolleyes:

Oh, lighten up.


"MaoistRebelNews" makes a Freudian slip in this video. He refers to his videos as "articles" several times. However, the videos that were plagiarized from WSWS articles have never appeared as articles on the "MaoistRebelNews" blog (probably because that would make it easier to compare the words and verify the source).

Good catch.

[Lyev]

I do not think that have anything to do with that, it goes back to an African saying, a million ants can take down an elephant or something like that. I think he means redant in that context.
If I recall correctly, it's a reference to how red ants sometimes kill their queens. It's kind of flawed, because ant colonies literally need the queen to survive.Yeah I dunno why I bothered saying that all. I made the comment I think because I just watched the CPGB video with Mike Macnair and Moshe Machover, where Machover talks about "humans not being ants" etc.

Also, I do have a slight suspicion that TVM does tell MRN a few things about revleft because on the former's youtube channel he says something like "just like Maoist Rebel News, I post videos telling you the things the capitalist media doesn't want you to know", or something like that. I think the two are quite similar because they both do a lot of stuff (like blogs, videos) on the internet. My 50 roubles are in!

[NecroCommie]

What the fuck is "Maoist rebel news"? And why the fuck is he wearing a combat uniform? I assume he lives in america or britain with that degree of video quality and obviously native english. It's just that I was not aware of any uprisings over there, and this dude is STILL wearing that combat fatigue! And why the fuck is it rebel-news? Just maoist wasn't rebel enough? Does he always wear that fatigue or does he dress up for the videos? Regardless, in both cases: WHY!? And why is he taking revleft seriously? This is a place for networking, learning and news, not an international revisionist conspiracy.

There are just so many questions!

[The Red Next Door]

What the fuck is "Maoist rebel news"? And why the fuck is he wearing a combat uniform? I assume he lives in america or britain with that degree of video quality and obviously native english. It's just that I was not aware of any uprisings over there, and this dude is STILL wearing that combat fatigue! And why the fuck is it rebel-news? Just maoist wasn't rebel enough? Does he always wear that fatigue or does he dress up for the videos? Regardless, in both cases: WHY!? And why is he taking revleft seriously? This is a place for networking, learning and news, not an international revisionist conspiracy.

There are just so many questions!

He lives in Canada.

[Pirate Utopian]

Also, I do have a slight suspicion that TVM does tell MRN a few things about revleft because on the former's youtube channel he says something like "just like Maoist Rebel News, I post videos telling you the things the capitalist media doesn't want you to know", or something like that. I think the two are quite similar because they both do a lot of stuff (like blogs, videos) on the internet. My 50 roubles are in!
Plus they commented on eachother's youtube pages.

[NecroCommie]

Why the fatigue?! :confused: Does he ambush canadian patrols all on his own, or does he think he blends to the bacground of his videos therefore rendering his news some kind of voice-only broadcasts? I can still see you mr. camo!

[Q]

didnt TVM have his own youtube channel? something that was only not as toecringing by comperison to maoist rebel news?

edit: o yeah, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/user/RedAntLiberationArmy

:lol:

Oh right. Ok, TVM is off the hook, for now.

He's almost as bad though.

[fa2991]

Why the fatigue?! :confused: Does he ambush canadian patrols all on his own, or does he think he blends to the bacground of his videos therefore rendering his news some kind of voice-only broadcasts? I can still see you mr. camo!

I wonder how many hundreds of dollars MRN's "vintage" fatigues cost...


Oh right. Ok, TVM is off the hook, for now.

He's almost as bad though.

:lol:

[Os Cangaceiros]

Homeboy's a revolutionary. Nothing says "I'm a revolutionary" like fatigues.

[Magón]

I think we can all learn a lesson from this video: When you want to make a political statement/point/rant from the Left side of things, you must be wearing Fatigues. Because everyone knows Fatigues just make you seem that much more serious on the matter.

*FATIGUES FOR EVERYONE!*

[Sam_b]

Indeed. I certainly get my fair share of fatigues by watching the videos.

[Kléber]

Does he ambush canadian patrols all on his own, ... ?
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5568/ambush.jpg

[Pavlov's House Party]

according to my sources, this guy used a username called "RedNickD" almost everywhere and was a revleft member a while ago. he's also been plaigarising other people's stuff for years too.

EDIT: "RedNickD" is another guy on MaoistRebelNews's youtube channel. this is him: http://www.youtube.com/user/MaoistRebelNews2#p/u/2/WIrtt64dwLI

[Who?]

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5568/ambush.jpg

Those jazz hands do look pretty formidable.

[Shokaract]

What the fuck is "Maoist rebel news"? And why the fuck is he wearing a combat uniform? I assume he lives in america or britain with that degree of video quality and obviously native english. It's just that I was not aware of any uprisings over there, and this dude is STILL wearing that combat fatigue! And why the fuck is it rebel-news? Just maoist wasn't rebel enough? Does he always wear that fatigue or does he dress up for the videos? Regardless, in both cases: WHY!? And why is he taking revleft seriously? This is a place for networking, learning and news, not an international revisionist conspiracy.

There are just so many questions!

Those are good questions. One thing I can answer is that I don't think he's wearing a uniform (the one with the red epaulettes) in this video, just a black shirt with some pin.



http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5568/ambush.jpg

:lol:

[fa2991]

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5568/ambush.jpg

WHY CAN'T WE THANK IN CHIT-CHAT! :lol:

[Pirate Utopian]

[Picture]
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Kuppo Shakur]

Three lolz for Kleber.

[this is an invasion]

I wish the MaoistNerd would make a video about RAAN.

[The Vegan Marxist]

Oh right. Ok, TVM is off the hook, for now.

He's almost as bad though.

How am I almost as bad? I don't go at others or claim some kind of superiority over others by calling people names & all that bullshit. All I do is post video's talking about latest news, which I source where I got it from, or just post my own ideas, etc.

[Nachie]

It's hard for you to understand right now, but one day you're going to look back at those videos and be kinda embarrassed. Maybe even really embarrassed.

I'm not even tryna hate, just... yeah.

[Magón]

I wish the MaoistNerd would make a video about RAAN.

Already ahead of you, pal. ;)

[Sir Comradical]

Stealing from the Cuban government. Dumbest shit I've heard all day.

"You make accusations *****...you better back it up" - LOLOLOL

[Red Commissar]

Well, at least this is giving me some lulz.

[Tablo]

according to my sources, this guy used a username called "RedNickD" almost everywhere and was a revleft member a while ago. he's also been plaigarising other people's stuff for years too.

EDIT: "RedNickD" is another guy on MaoistRebelNews's youtube channel. this is him: http://www.youtube.com/user/MaoistRebelNews2#p/u/2/WIrtt64dwLI
Yeah, I know RedNickD. We modded a forum a long time back and are friends on facebook. He doesn't post here because this site infuriates him.

[Invincible Summer]

Yeah, I know RedNickD. We modded a forum a long time back and are friends on facebook. He doesn't post here because this site infuriates him.

Isn't he a reformist?

[Kléber]

Isn't he a reformist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5s_Sew3hpI