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EvilRedGuy
18th September 2010, 13:09
I have some questions i want answered.

1: Will there be copyright laws in a communist world? I guess not as it's the same as private property?
2: Will there be commercials in a communist world? I hope not, i fucking them
3: Do all communists believe in a post-scarcity society? The last stage of communism has no scarcity?
3: Was Bruce Lee a socialist? my friend keep bugging me whith this.
4: Anyone believes in legalizing drugs, if so why, and if not why not?
5:And lastly i would like to ask why we even bother trying to achieve communism, i mean its a good idealogy but i just feel that it may never be achieved, it seems hopeless :( Someone allso said to me that peoples dosen't have the heart so there will never be communism, but im thinking that its more about misinformation(about communism, capitalism, etc.)

Please comment!

meow
18th September 2010, 16:31
I have some questions i want answered.

1: Will there be copyright laws in a communist world? I guess not as it's the same as private property?
what do copyright laws do? why do they exist? for the capitalist and the money man. they dont exist for us. they exist to restrict the free flow of ideas. so no no copyright.

2: Will there be commercials in a communist world? I hope not, i fucking them
why do commericials exist? to make you want to buy shit. without buying why do you need convincing? so no commercials for products you dont need. there will be promotions i guess for events and what have you. you know: "there will be a huge party at such and such 10/10 year 6".

3: Do all communists believe in a post-scarcity society? The last stage of communism has no scarcity? no. many communists (not all communists are marxists) believe that communism has been possible throughout history.
many communists also believe that post scarcity is possible right now except that capitalism is getting in the way.
others think that capitalism is certainly getting in the way but that post scarcity isnt possible yet. but with capitalism gone technology will advance faster and post scarcity will be reached soon after.

3: Was Bruce Lee a socialist? my friend keep bugging me whith this.
?

4: Anyone believes in legalizing drugs, if so why, and if not why not?
what you do to your body is none of my business. all true socialists reject illegalising self harm. though of course we support harm minimization strategies such as education.


5:And lastly i would like to ask why we even bother trying to achieve communism, i mean its a good idealogy but i just feel that it may never be achieved, it seems hopeless :( Someone allso said to me that peoples dosen't have the heart so there will never be communism, but im thinking that its more about misinformation(about communism, capitalism, etc.)

Please comment!
i want anarchism because i hate the system i live in. i am not free. i cant do what i want with my life because of external constraints. i am forced to work to be able to have any luxuries at all. and what few luxuries i can afford barely make up for the drudgery.
it maybe that i will never live in a truely free world. shit happens. but i will fight for it. a free world where i can live my life as i please. able to travel at will without having to worry about whether i can afford to pay for food when i reach my destination. being able to create useful things without consideration for if it can be marketted and sold. being able to have a sense of community with all my neighbors rather then not nowing them.

i have the heart!

Psy
18th September 2010, 16:44
I have some questions i want answered.

1: Will there be copyright laws in a communist world? I guess not as it's the same as private property?

No everything would be in the public domain yet it would still be plagiarism to not give credit to using the works of others.



2: Will there be commercials in a communist world? I hope not, i fucking them

Yes but not like we have now. See there would still a use for organizations advertising for example adverting a concert so people know about the concert. Or advertising new products entering into stores, or changes to existing products more to advertise recalls of products that turn out to be faulty.

The difference is that communist ads would basically be telling people about something rather then using emotions that have nothing to do with what is being advertised. We might see ads like those from the USSR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVOtUOVV2tk

or we might see ads that simply are info dumps on the product.



3: Do all communists believe in a post-scarcity society? The last stage of communism has no scarcity?

For the most part. There would be still scarcity but not enough to be a big issue for anyone.



4: Anyone believes in legalizing drugs, if so why, and if not why not?

Sure, why should we criminalize people wanting to consume a product even if it is dangerous to them?



5:And lastly i would like to ask why we even bother trying to achieve communism, i mean its a good idealogy but i just feel that it may never be achieved, it seems hopeless :( Someone allso said to me that peoples dosen't have the heart so there will never be communism, but im thinking that its more about misinformation(about communism, capitalism, etc.)

Please comment!
Yhea misinformation seems a good explanation yet most Marxists would use the term lack of class consciousness.

Red Poplar
18th September 2010, 16:51
1) There shouldn't be copyright laws, they restrict freedom, but I believe that certain inventors or geniuses should be recognized for their contribution to the society.
2) During the communist Yugoslavia, there were commercials. However, advertising wasn't as intensive as it is now, so people could live with it.
3) I'm not sure if post-scarcity is achievable, in theory maybe yes, but in practice... unlikely, if you ask me. Check my answer 5 for more info.
4) What someone does with his/her body is none of my business, as long as it doesn't affect me, the society, or someone who doesn't want to be affected. Therefore, I'm against public smoking, but I have nothing against legalisation of marijuana and other drugs for private use.
5) I'm not a communist, and honestly I don't believe it's achievable in the human civilisation. Communism is a uthopia, we can't all be equal, there are always people who stand out in the crowd, and people who use their might to oppress the weaker. Though this shouldn't discourage us from trying to achieve equality.

I hope my answers helped. :)

Obs
18th September 2010, 16:56
5) I'm not a communist, and honestly I don't believe it's achievable in the human civilisation. Communism is a uthopia, we can't all be equal, there are always people who stand out in the crowd, and people who use their might to oppress the weaker.

Then what are you doing here?

Red Poplar
18th September 2010, 17:18
@Obsmagon:
Firstly, I stated my opinion about human nature, I never said that I AGREED with it. The second part of my answer (which you didn't quote) said: "Though this shouldn't discourage us from trying to achieve equality".
Secondly, this is a leftist forum, and leftism includes many political views beside Communism.

EvilRedGuy
18th September 2010, 18:20
Uhh this isn't just a leftist forum but a communist forum, peoples here are trying to achieve communism? and what i mean't about commercials was more like TV advertising, its useless as its only their to gain profit, educational movies and news/information has nothing to do whith that. Post-Scarcity will eventually gone down if i understand you guys correct. And yes ofcourse should peoples get credited but i mean't more like "I own the copyright for this now its belongs to me!" kinda thing.

And how come none have answered me whether Bruce Lee was a socialist or not? I doubt he is but i'd like to know if this rumour is true. Sorry if you misunderstod :confused:

ContrarianLemming
18th September 2010, 18:44
1: Will there be copyright laws in a communist world? I guess not as it's the same as private property?

Maybe, they're not the same as private property, they are a possesion, we only advocate communal ownership of the means of production, not possession.


2: Will there be commercials in a communist world? I hope not, i fucking them

Not all commercials are bad, there are health warnings, enviomental ads, ones that teach, tell us about an upcoming movie, and I don't mind being told about a new product that is quite useful.


3: Do all communists believe in a post-scarcity society? The last stage of communism has no scarcity?

Yes, or almost all of us.


3: Was Bruce Lee a socialist? my friend keep bugging me whith this.

Probably


4: Anyone believes in legalizing drugs, if so why, and if not why not?

they should be legalized, if it does not harm another then it should be allowed.


5:And lastly i would like to ask why we even bother trying to achieve communism, i mean its a good idealogy but i just feel that it may never be achieved, it seems hopeless :( Someone allso said to me that peoples dosen't have the heart so there will never be communism, but im thinking that its more about misinformation(about communism, capitalism, etc.)

10 million snapish, untold millions of Russian, 5 million italians, 10 million members of the shinmin region...support for it ebbs and flows, no heart now, but you need only look back 50 years to see that this is hardly a constant, nothing lasts forever.

ContrarianLemming
18th September 2010, 18:47
I'm not a communist, and honestly I don't believe it's achievable in the human civilisation. Communism is a uthopia, we can't all be equal, there are always people who stand out in the crowd, and people who use their might to oppress the weaker. Though this shouldn't discourage us from trying to achieve equality.

In what way are the majority weaker? WE ARE MANY THEY ARE FEW

Peace on Earth
18th September 2010, 19:53
In what way are the majority weaker? WE ARE MANY THEY ARE FEW
Strength and power cannot be judged solely by numbers.

Os Cangaceiros
18th September 2010, 20:27
1: Will there be copyright laws in a communist world? I guess not as it's the same as private property?

Yes.

Che Guevara's image and likeness is the sole property of the Cuban government, for example.

DaComm
18th September 2010, 21:15
I have some questions i want answered.

1: Will there be copyright laws in a communist world? I guess not as it's the same as private property?
2: Will there be commercials in a communist world? I hope not, i fucking them
3: Do all communists believe in a post-scarcity society? The last stage of communism has no scarcity?
3: Was Bruce Lee a socialist? my friend keep bugging me whith this.
4: Anyone believes in legalizing drugs, if so why, and if not why not?
5:And lastly i would like to ask why we even bother trying to achieve communism, i mean its a good idealogy but i just feel that it may never be achieved, it seems hopeless :( Someone allso said to me that peoples dosen't have the heart so there will never be communism, but im thinking that its more about misinformation(about communism, capitalism, etc.)

Please comment!

1. No. Granted however it is only respectful to give credit where credit is do, otherwise you'll be marked as prick, just as that one guy on Youtube MaoistRebelNews is.
2. Commercials exist for the purpose of aiding Capitalists in their competetive adventures. So no, but that's not to say however that there can't be certain medical ones and things of the like.
3. I do, but I recognize that it will not exist in our life or many lives to come.
3. What?
4. I do not see why not. If drugs make you happy, why not allow you to use them? There isn't much reason outside of the possible second-hand effect) why you shouldn't be allowed to do what you want with your own body.
5. "Why bother" is like saying to not worry about it when someone takes your wallet. Capitalists exist by extracting wealth made by people that are not him, they are stealing from the workers and are denying them their full remuneration. Btw, I always felt that when trying to atract more members, that saying "You're being stolen from" is less effective than "Imagine what you could have/ are being denied due to the existence of Cappies". Hopeless? Not at all, Leftists have had sparks of success throughout history that prove the effectiveness (in all aspects of society) in having no Capitalists, and we're steadily growing in support. Remember, the revolutionary spirit can only die down by proclaiming the struggle useless.

Btw, you listed number 3 twice.