Ulysses

[ramiroblaze]

Ulysses is great fun. It takes a bit more work than most books to read, just as it seems to work, play tennis a bit more than it is playing catch. You work, any more than you know an unusually difficult game should not feel compelled to put it should not feel forced. But those who put in the work and have a good time doing it should not feel guilty about it. The interweaving lines of chapter one voice, for example, and anyone who does not see that this chapter is a way to survive is almost nothing in the literature is a pleasure to follow. Joyce a good comic writer and vivid, complex characters, a terrific producer. But it's good for readers to enjoy some extra effort into how she needs to, and I after a few pages to anyone who gives up and refused to go any further can not blame. On the other hand, I noticed that people who do not like Joyce's approach to find people who want to attack. It's silly. Again, this basketball game just because you hate people like skateboarding is like. Both lovers and haters Joyce Joyce should lighten up a bit.

[x359594]

It seemed to me that once you got used to seeing dashes to indicate dialog instead of the more familiar quotation marks the narrative thread wasn't that hard to follow.

[La Comédie Noire]

Man I love Ulysses, I'm on my third reading of it now and I agree with you, I have never gotten so much out of a book in my life. Leopold Bloom is my favorite literary character of all time, the Cyclops chapter is simply a masterpiece.

Someone is even attempting to make a web comic of the whole thing.

http://ulyssesseen.com/

I must say it is awesome! Don't know if I'll ever have the courage to attempt Finnegan's Wake.

[Rakhmetov]

Joyce was an asshole. I was reading a biography of him --- I think the one by Edmund Wilson or something and he (Joyce) was sent a letter from the Soviet Union asking him if he supported the new revolutionary regime and Joyce sarcastically scoffed, "Ha more mud more crocodiles." :crying:

[Blackscare]

Joyce was an asshole. I was reading a biography of him --- I think the one by Edmund Wilson or something and he (Joyce) was sent a letter from the Soviet Union asking him if he supported the new revolutionary regime and Joyce sarcastically scoffed, "Ha more mud more crocodiles." :crying:


Wait, so you're saying that an artist or likewise significant may not be a perfect person? Shit. That's impossible, everyone knows you have to be personally perfect to create good work.



Although, if that's true, I better set to work burning all the written word and music that I have, just to be safe. I simply can't live in a world where James Joyce wasn't my favorite kind of -ism with a cherry on top.

[Diello]

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Hark, a vagrant. (http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=32)

[Rakhmetov]

Wait, so you're saying that an artist or likewise significant may not be a perfect person? Shit. That's impossible, everyone knows you have to be personally perfect to create good work.



Although, if that's true, I better set to work burning all the written word and music that I have, just to be safe. I simply can't live in a world where James Joyce wasn't my favorite kind of -ism with a cherry on top.


Read my post again. I never said anything about Joyce's artistry.

Joyce was politically aloof. Imagine if Neruda had taken the same stance---Che Guevara would never had been inspired and hence no unity in Latin America. :(

[berlitz23]

Read my post again. I never said anything about Joyce's artistry.

Joyce was politically aloof. Imagine if Neruda had taken the same stance---Che Guevara would never had been inspired and hence no unity in Latin America. :(

That's a pretty dogmatic stance there, every artist must be in some demonstrate a political alignment? There's politics inherent and hidden with Joyce's text, but you are looking through the scope of an palpable affiliation.

[La Comédie Noire]

I think it's important to understand why Joyce was politically aloof. He was a supporter of home rule in Ireland, but at the same time he found Irish nationalism to be narrow minded. You can find throughout Ulysses many instances where he celebrates Irish culture while wishing to transcend it at the same time. I respect him for being honest and admitting it's impossible to have a ready made political line for everything.

[Thirsty Crow]

Man I love Ulysses, I'm on my third reading of it now and I agree with you, I have never gotten so much out of a book in my life. Leopold Bloom is my favorite literary character of all time, the Cyclops chapter is simply a masterpiece.Oh yes, definitely.
At first, it was more or less hard to keep track of the mental and physical meanderings of Mr. Bloom (Stephen was easier to follow), but once you get into it, the fun never stops.
And Joyce did his job really well, I haven't seen anywhere else such a great execution of the stream of thought technique (maybe in "The Sound and the Fury", but there are technical differences between these two).
As to my favorite chapter, it would be either Cyclops (absolutely smashing criticism of nationalism) or Circe (I dig quasi-expressionist nightmarish hallucinations very much).




I must say it is awesome! Don't know if I'll ever have the courage to attempt Finnegan's Wake.From what I've heard and read about it, "Wake" heavily employs linguistic puns and neologisms. It is, according to certain people, almost impossible to comprehend without a significant amount of knowledge regarding the English language and the culture of the English speaking areas (a ton of references).

Suffice it to say, I don't have the balls to start with it, yet :D

[x359594]

...From what I've heard and read about it, "Wake" heavily employs linguistic puns and neologisms. It is, according to certain people, almost impossible to comprehend without a significant amount of knowledge regarding the English language and the culture of the English speaking areas (a ton of references)...

It's readable but it takes work. You can start with A Skeleton Key to Finnegans Wake by Joseph Campbell and then go on to A Shorter Finnegans Wake edited and with commentary by Anthony Burgess.