Just what is a "guido"? Yes, the first official revleft thread on the Jersey Shore...

[RadioRaheem84]

Because, I live in Houston and never heard of the term and always assumed the look was always a Hispanic thing. Hispanics really copied the look here in TX so I always assumed Guido was a Hispanic or an occasional Middle Eastern thing.

When I thought of Guido I thought of Portugese Cristiano Ronaldo or a Daddy Yannke type. I didn't know it was an Italian thing until Jersey Shore.

When I saw the cast of Jersey Shore, I assumed the cast were all Hispanic. Later on I found out they were Italian.

So is being a guido or a guidette an Italian thing or can other people pick it up because in TX the look is mostly copied by Hispanics, Arabs and Persians?

I am just so curious about this crazy Guido fad thing and the Jersey Shore. It has a lot of people razzed up. Just that the hell is this subculture all about?

[synthesis]

"Guido" is an Italian first name, equivalent to "Guy" in English, which is where the slang term comes from. It was originally a class thing.

[RadioRaheem84]

If guido is a negative ethinic stereotype than I would rather end the thread. If it's more about a certain lifestyle, tell me more.

[Bright Banana Beard]

IT IS a certain lifestyle, they recently "exported" to Miami, seriously.

[Obs]

These are guidos:

http://youbreakityoublogit.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/guidos_1.jpg

[Raúl Duke]

So is being a guido or a guidette an Italian thing or can other people pick it up because in TX the look is mostly copied by Hispanics, Arabs and Persians?

Snooki and some other cast-member is not even Italian-American but Hispanic or some other. But usually, guidos are confined to Italian-Americans but due to shows like Jersey Shore I'm not surprise if the style is being adopted by all sorts of people.

[GPDP]

Put "douchebag" on google images. You'll have your answer.

[synthesis]

If guido is a negative ethinic stereotype than I would rather end the thread. If it's more about a certain lifestyle, tell me more.

It's just a subculture that got appropriated by popular media. Think college kids drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon, or Kid Rock pretending to be "white trash."

I'm "Italian-American," and I don't care about "negative ethnic stereotypes" about Italians at all.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Being a guido has about as much to do with ethnicity as being a chav does. It's just a lifestyle, as other people have said.

[Tablo]

Are all guidos complete idiots? Just asking...

[synthesis]

Being a guido has about as much to do with ethnicity as being a chav does. It's just a lifestyle, as other people have said.

Right, but it was originally a term for young, working-class Italian men who got in fights at bars and shit like that. The "lifestyle" then got appropriated. Lifestyles come from culture, culture comes from class society.

[Os Cangaceiros]

My parents (who grew up in New York way back when) familarized me with all of those slang terms a while ago. Guinea, guido, wop, etc.

[RadioRaheem84]

Snooki and some other cast-member is not even Italian-American but Hispanic or some other. But usually, guidos are confined to Italian-Americans but due to shows like Jersey Shore I'm not surprise if the style is being adopted by all sorts of people.

I read she is Chilean. Considering she has an Italian surname, I figured she was Italian-Chilean. I am Chilean of Italian decent.

It seems like unless you're Argentinean, it's hard for people to believe that other Latinos have Italian ancestry.

Either way, most of the cast is ethnic white non-Wasp-ish. A mix of working class Irish, Hispanic, Italian and Polish.

It's sad to see that the stereotypes surrounding the ethnic whites listed above are still pervasive in American society.

[Raúl Duke]

It seems like unless you're Argentinean, it's hard for people to believe that other Latinos have Italian ancestry.

I'm not surprised...

Considering how Chile (and Uruguay) are similar to Argentina~! ;)

However, in Miami, when I met many Latin-Americans from Italian backgrounds they didn't go on and become the stereotypical "guido" alla Jersey Shore show.

[MarxSchmarx]

I read she is Chilean. Considering she has an Italian surname, I figured she was Italian-Chilean. I am Chilean of Italian decent.



Her last name is the name of the Italian American family that adopted her from Chile.

I think someone should start an internet meme that her biological parents were disappeared during the Pinochet years for being prominent leftist activists.

[nip]

Guido is the name of my dad's pet iguana
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSORMaz33ygIcySMenNomvStYMzvI16M jWMHptVOeKpVwRmtks&t=1&usg=__Wbu2VwNOqs8HshneqGa7gejc7lg=
The iguana looks something like this

[Red Commissar]

For what it's worth about ancestries, Wikipedia (fffffffffff) puts out this much,


Nicole Polizzi was born in Santiago, Chile. Polizzi is of Italian Chilean descent, and was adopted and raised by Italian American parents.

Though there is a cast member looking through that list that is put as "Irish-Spanish".

Haven't watched the show myself (haven't seen much TV recently anyways), but I hear enough of it on the internet.

[Agnapostate]

Snooki and some other cast-member is not even Italian-American but Hispanic or some other.

She's from Chile, but "Chilean" is a nationality and not a race. I'd imagine that she has some Amerindian admixture in addition to the Northern African admixture that Italians have on average, making her a mestiza, technically.


I'm not surprised...

Considering how Chile (and Uruguay) are similar to Argentina~! ;)

Chile is probably more Indian than Uruguay and Argentina (which still have the reputation of being the whitest countries in Latin and South America), because of its adjacence to the Andean cultural region that was characterized by high indigenous population numbers because of its long and established history of extensive agriculture. But it's certainly not Peru or Bolivia; it's worthy of being described as a white-mestizo country.

[Raúl Duke]

She's from Chile, but "Chilean" is a nationality and not a race.I never claimed it is a race, races don't exist.

[Bright Banana Beard]

I never thought that we're going to talk about Snooki here.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

My parents (who grew up in New York way back when) familarized me with all of those slang terms a while ago. Guinea, guido, wop, etc.

exactly
it is an ethnic slur

MTV does not define what is what is not offensive and demeaning

there are few things that disgust me more than this current backlash against political correctness that dictates that all language is equally acceptable and inocuous. "freedom of expression" that ultimately leaves the most underprivileged and vulnerable members of society in an even more vulnerable position. we can't let cocky self indulgent individualist MTV-watching priviledged bourgeois white boys redefine the dynamics of social relations and ethnic identity.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I read she is Chilean. Considering she has an Italian surname, I figured she was Italian-Chilean. I am Chilean of Italian decent.

It seems like unless you're Argentinean, it's hard for people to believe that other Latinos have Italian ancestry.

boo fucking hoo

"nobody understands my proud Italian heritage" lol

[Honggweilo]

christiano ronaldo is fucking guido.. most of my portuguese "friends" here in the netherlands are THAT kind of guido :rolleyes:

some of them:

http://94.100.114.55/543150001-543200000/543198501-543198600/543198599_5_yFC3.jpeg

[Os Cangaceiros]

yeah, they wouldn't look too out of place here:

http://hategasm.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/douchebags.jpg

[Sasha]

yeah, they wouldn't look too out of place here:

http://hategasm.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/douchebags.jpg

but thats how most most ethnic dutch "kampers" (non-gypsy traverlers) look like too

[nuisance]

Jersey Shore is great.

[Honggweilo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-pAluZQ4PA

guidette

[Agnapostate]

I never claimed it is a race, races don't exist.

A hereditary ethnicity, then.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

races exist very much so
as a social construct

[bailey_187]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JMOh-cul6M


Jersey Shore is good

[Honggweilo]

yeah, they wouldn't look too out of place here:

http://hategasm.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/douchebags.jpg

wtf are these guys albanian (the two headed eagle chrest and hand sign and all XD). They look so white XD (as in northern european white, despite the fake tan). Overcompensating is really there thing i guess, first bunkers, now jaegerbombs :p.

Shqipido's :rolleyes:?

[Os Cangaceiros]

Yep, they're all Albanians.

And Hoxhaists.

[Os Cangaceiros]

4JMOh-cul6M


Jersey Shore is good

Jagerbombs? I'm fuckin' showerin' that shit.

[Jazzhands]

If guido is a negative ethinic stereotype than I would rather end the thread. If it's more about a certain lifestyle, tell me more.

Guido used to be an Italian racial slur, and still is among people who don't watch shitty TV.

Now it describes people-regardless of race, but they're mostly white (or orange from their fake tans)-with the characteristics of the douchebags posted above. Ridiculous amounts of time and money spent on spiky, greasy hair (I'm talking a bottle of gel per day here), Crucifix necklace, and gross, gross fake tans. YOU ARE AT THE JERSEY SHORE. YOU DO HAVE TIME FOR A REAL TAN.

They also have shitloads of sex, which is gross in its own right, but when you think of these people breeding, you become absolutely terrified.

[RadioRaheem84]

Chile is probably more Indian than Uruguay and Argentina (which still have the reputation of being the whitest countries in Latin and South America), because of its adjacence to the Andean cultural region that was characterized by high indigenous population numbers because of its long and established history of extensive agriculture. But it's certainly not Peru or Bolivia; it's worthy of being described as a white-mestizo country.

Chile is what Spaniards referred to as a Castizo nation. White-Mestizo rather than White-Amerindian. Although I really do not know how you can really verify the different admixtures of Native and Spanish blood, but I can see how Chile is distinguished from both Argentina/Uruguay and Bolivia/Peru.

Northern Chile is more like Peru, while Southern Chile tends to have the more German/Italian influence.

My grandparents are of Italian decent but are as Chilean as the Cueca! Chile is a very nationalistic country.

[bailey_187]

Guido used to be an Italian racial slur, and still is among people who don't watch shitty TV.

Now it describes people-regardless of race, but they're mostly white (or orange from their fake tans)-with the characteristics of the douchebags posted above. Ridiculous amounts of time and money spent on spiky, greasy hair (I'm talking a bottle of gel per day here), Crucifix necklace, and gross, gross fake tans. YOU ARE AT THE JERSEY SHORE. YOU DO HAVE TIME FOR A REAL TAN.

They also have shitloads of sex, which is gross in its own right, but when you think of these people breeding, you become absolutely terrified.

you sound mad

[ed miliband]

They also have shitloads of sex, which is gross in its own right, but when you think of these people breeding, you become absolutely terrified.

How is having loads of sex gross?

[Jazzhands]

How is having loads of sex gross?

because it's THEM.

[bailey_187]

because it's THEM.

im not attracted to men so i dont have best opinion but most the men on Jersey Shore seem to be good looking dudes. And some of the girls are attractive (Snooki and Jwow not, Sammi is very attractive)

[Pirate Utopian]

In the Netherlands we have our own version of Jersey Shore now. It's called Oh Oh Cherso.

http://rtlperspresentatie.nl/images/rtl5/RTL5_ohoh_cherso.jpg

[bailey_187]

lol they dont quite measure up to the Jersey Shore people lol

[Jazzhands]

Yep, they're all Albanians.

I'd wear that flag on everything I own. Not because I'm Albanian, but because every fucking thing about it is badass. One is the eagle. TWO-HEADED MASSIVE PREDATORY BIRD.

Two is the hat. That's Skanderbeg's helm. That was the guy who may have invented guerilla warfare, took a handful of guys, and kicked the Ottoman Empire's ass back across Europe. That's right. Gjergj Kastrioti Skanderbeg, one of the most badass soldiers in history, with the most badass name in history, was so badass that his badass hat got put on the most badass flag of all time.



And Hoxhaists.

That explains why they're such douchebags.:cool:

[Pirate Utopian]

lol they dont quite measure up to the Jersey Shore people lol
It's even funnier though.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Guidette is improper, the right term is guida. Like amiga.

[MarxSchmarx]

Chile is probably more Indian than Uruguay and Argentina (which still have the reputation of being the whitest countries in Latin and South America), because of its adjacence to the Andean cultural region that was characterized by high indigenous population numbers because of its long and established history of extensive agriculture. But it's certainly not Peru or Bolivia; it's worthy of being described as a white-mestizo country.

What the hell is wrong with you?


In the Netherlands we have our own version of Jersey Shore now. It's called Oh Oh Cherso.

http://rtlperspresentatie.nl/images/rtl5/RTL5_ohoh_cherso.jpg

No one cares.

[Honggweilo]

What the hell is wrong with you?



No one cares.

ban for american exeptionalism

[Agnapostate]

What the hell is wrong with you?

What the hell is wrong with you, jingoist? :thumbup1:

[progressive_lefty]

I saw Snooki on Letterman the other night, and that was enough for me to know that I should avoid that show. It seems to be based around high-testosterone guys going out trying to impress women and acting tough by beating people up along the way.

[ed miliband]

I saw Snooki on Letterman the other night, and that was enough for me to know that I should avoid that show. It seems to be based around high-testosterone guys going out trying to impress women and acting tough by beating people up along the way.

Like a populist Bukowski, eh?

I dig Jersey Shore, for the record.

[RadioRaheem84]

Jersey Shore is not that bad of a show. It's a bit of guilty pleasure but I do understand the IQ lowering thing that it's accused of. After watching the entire season, it made me question my appearance in front of other ppl. :lol:

Imagine people who are totally sucked into it all!

[An archist]

lol they dont quite measure up to the Jersey Shore people lol
The girl on the right is nicknamed 'barbie' because her dream in life is that she always wanted to be a barbie.

[ed miliband]

Jersey Shore is not that bad of a show. It's a bit of guilty pleasure but I do understand the IQ lowering thing that it's accused of. After watching the entire season, it made me question my appearance in front of other ppl. :lol:




Because you look like a guido or because you didn't want people to know you watched an entire season of it?

[RadioRaheem84]

Because you look like a guido or because you didn't want people to know you watched an entire season of it?

Oh no, I meant that I began to care a bit about how I looked in front of people in general. As in, I noticed I was caring if I looked nice enough for this or that restaurant, clothes, hair, etc. Not much, like a guido, but I noticed that I was becoming more aware of what other people thought of me.

[bailey_187]

Oh no, I meant that I began to care a bit about how I looked in front of people in general. As in, I noticed I was caring if I looked nice enough for this or that restaurant, clothes, hair, etc. Not much, like a guido, but I noticed that I was becoming more aware of what other people thought of me.

isnt that usual lol?

[ed miliband]

isnt that usual lol?

For many on the left it seems the answer is no.

[Aloysius]

These are tools:

http://youbreakityoublogit.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/guidos_1.jpg
Fix'd.