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leninfan
16th September 2010, 17:13
This is going to be the new ideology that will revolutionize the planet.
More details coming soon...
Hint, no more poor.
No more talk about the "middle class" with out mentioning the "poor class".
No more talk about the "working class" with out mentioning the "Un-able to work class"...

HammerAlias
16th September 2010, 17:17
This "ideology" is in desperate need of expression and clarity.

Vampire Lobster
16th September 2010, 17:20
what the fuck am I reading right now

leninfan
16th September 2010, 17:32
I haven't come up with anything solid on it, just that since there are 40 million poor people here in the US, and neither the left or the right use the word "POOR" I'm pissed off.
So call it a rant or what, but it is basically going to be a collection of the best aspects of socialism whereas there will be no collapse or the laying off of 1,000,000 government workers... I thought that would have been the big topic here this week.

Smartism - Main goal
No more poor people
Second goal
No more war - eliminate all wars and weapons
Third goal
Reduce the consumption and abuse of animals and the planet
Difference that the Greens or the Socialist? Adapting to the current state of affairs where the rich are already rich and they will not be giving it up.
Manipulate the Rich to hire the poor by by-passing college and doing direct training...just for those who would otherwise not attend college - 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation cholos, bloods, skins, and the like. Get these thugs off the street and turn them legit.
Wacky? Yep... has anything else worked? Nope!

zimmerwald1915
16th September 2010, 17:33
This will end well.

leninfan
16th September 2010, 17:36
This thread? I'm sure it will be eliminated soon too.
No room for anything new... welcome to the sinking planet.

Red Commissar
16th September 2010, 17:58
So how is this different from socialists who had a malthusian view with some eugenics tossed in from the past?

Kotze
16th September 2010, 18:22
Methinks there's a related ideology (http://www.sidewalkbubblegum.com/don%E2%80%99t-be-poor-don%E2%80%99t-start-wars/).

NonServiam
16th September 2010, 18:46
Smartism?! No more poor people?! leninfan, Please try harder.

Rusty Shackleford
16th September 2010, 20:42
these are decent goals but they are not new. and do not warrant a whole name for itself.

but, and im sorry, i feel it is really just left-liberalism.
trying to manipulate the bourgeoisie with the state(which the bourgeoisie owns) so that they dont walk about workers without bringing up the unemployed is not going to do much... at all.

my 2 cents.

Adil3tr
16th September 2010, 21:31
I think hes joking, ex. "Smartism"

Kléber
16th September 2010, 21:36
Does Smartism permit dual membership in Forkliftism? Could both groups conceivably join forces in a united front with Transhumanists and Esotiricist Third-Worldists, to merge human consciousness into a giant sentient cyborg dragon with forklifts for its hands (immense lifting and combat power)?

Rusty Shackleford
16th September 2010, 21:43
I think hes joking, ex. "Smartism"
i think you're right.

Reznov
16th September 2010, 21:48
Fuck it, why not.

I've been a Smartist for years now! :laugh:

Omnia Sunt Communia
16th September 2010, 21:53
Smartism is still much better than really existing socialism

zimmerwald1915
16th September 2010, 21:54
Smartism is still much better than really existing socialism
Were you missing some quotation marks? Because I found "these" lying around recently.

leninfan
16th September 2010, 22:00
Well it sucks. There is no perfect world...except for the capitalist at the top of the ladder.
I guess that cartoon says it all.
Well what the hell happened in Cuba this week? Well the news from this week?
What makes Cuba worse than China? How come Intel can set up shop over there, the US cant do business with Havana?
These Tea Party victories coupled with the new report on poverty just has me losing hope over here in Kalifornia. Whitman spends 119 million bucks for her campaign, which could have gone to text books, or computers in Compton.
Not to change the subject but here in Kalifornia there is a Prop...Prop 23 that is funded almost exclusively by Texas oil barons... it will eliminate the Green bill that is currently working on adding green jobs to this state.
Also check out http://www.wind-zero.com and http://www.ivpressonine.com
Frustrating.
I want them to take their Earl Grey and stick where the sun don't shine.

Omnia Sunt Communia
16th September 2010, 22:05
Were you missing some quotation marks? Because I found "these" lying around recently.

Gotta break the habit.

ZeroNowhere
17th September 2010, 09:26
A restriction could be appropriate here if this is serious. Generally, I would assume that it's not, but this is Revleft. Also a large banner saying 'Read Capital!', although I think that that would be appropriate to just about every OI thread.

bcbm
17th September 2010, 09:35
wwtf r y u talking about

AK
17th September 2010, 12:47
This is going to be the new ideology that will revolutionize the planet.
More details coming soon...
Hint, no more poor.
No more talk about the "middle class" with out mentioning the "poor class".
No more talk about the "working class" with out mentioning the "Un-able to work class"...
The "poor class" and the "unable to work class" are both part of the working class (if you were take a Marxist class analysis, it would define them as working class because, as soon as they would find employment, they would become wage slaves to any one of the two capitalist classes to be exploited. Or if you were to take any one of the numerous anarchist class analyses, you would find they have just the same social/economic power as employed workers.) - but since you don't have a class analysis at all, you wouldn't know that.


I haven't come up with anything solid on it, just that since there are 40 million poor people here in the US, and neither the left or the right use the word "POOR" I'm pissed off.
So call it a rant or what, but it is basically going to be a collection of the best aspects of socialism whereas there will be no collapse or the laying off of 1,000,000 government workers... I thought that would have been the big topic here this week.
This would imply that Cuba is socialist.


Smartism - Main goal
No more poor people
Second goal
No more war - eliminate all wars and weapons
Third goal
Reduce the consumption and abuse of animals and the planet
Difference that the Greens or the Socialist? Adapting to the current state of affairs where the rich are already rich and they will not be giving it up.
Manipulate the Rich to hire the poor by by-passing college and doing direct training...just for those who would otherwise not attend college - 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation cholos, bloods, skins, and the like. Get these thugs off the street and turn them legit.
Wacky? Yep... has anything else worked? Nope!
Marxism and Anarchism can already handle the elimination of poverty and imperialist war remarkably well.

Lenina Rosenweg
17th September 2010, 12:57
This is going to be the new ideology that will revolutionize the planet.
More details coming soon...
Hint, no more poor.
No more talk about the "middle class" with out mentioning the "poor class".
No more talk about the "working class" with out mentioning the "Un-able to work class"...

You might want to take a look at a few of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duxkrv4fSe4

hatzel
17th September 2010, 12:59
I find Smartism to be too exclusive. Suggests only the smart are allowed to join!

Therefore, I will start my rival ideology. It's called Schtoopiddizm. Pretty much it just means no more smart people oppressing the idiots of the world...

Oh, wait, the Khmer Rouge already kind of did that. Fuck, I'm no good at thinking of new ideologies...

DaComm
18th September 2010, 01:20
This is going to be the new ideology that will revolutionize the planet.
More details coming soon...
Hint, no more poor.
No more talk about the "middle class" with out mentioning the "poor class".
No more talk about the "working class" with out mentioning the "Un-able to work class"...

Just as important as it is to have an idea, you must also have a revolutionary strategy to pursue said idea. Depending on the means by which you seek to implement "smartism", it may or may not actually be so smart.