Mainstream marxism

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I was listening to a song yesterday and realized that it was sympathetic towards marxist goals.So.....

Has anybody here ever seen/read/heard a music video,TV episode,movie,book,comic book/graphic novel,poster/advertisment or heard a song which wasn't explicitly marxist in nature yet conveyed a message sympathetic towards marxist tendencies?

The song was....."Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" by "Good Charlotte." A quick search on youtube should get you the track.

So has anybody else encountered any instances of marxist ideology unknowingly implanted in bourgeois society?

[Rusty Shackleford]

So has anybody else encountered any instances of marxist ideology unknowingly implanted in bourgeois society?
Barack Obama

[Obs]

Barack Obama
Oh, you!

[NoOneIsIllegal]

The song was....."Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" by "Good Charlotte."
ITT: confusing Marxism with teenage shenanigans.
Unless... it's the same! Oh shit, the conspiracy has been revealed! Forgive me, Lenin!

[AK]

The song was....."Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" by "Good Charlotte."
Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous talks about robbing the mansions of the rich, not seizing their means of production.

[Red Commissar]

Closest I got to that was with this star trek clip

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But like anything else that is the more moralistic "a better world is possible", not so much the working class taking control of the means of production.

[AK]

So in a commodity-free, abundant society, why do we still have empires and militarism? :blink:

[Jimmie Higgins]

So has anybody else encountered any instances of marxist ideology unknowingly implanted in bourgeois society?

In a loose sense, sure, all the time. But you don't need Marxist ideology to have ideas that the set-up of capitalism sucks and is not as efficient or productive as we are told it is - for the experience of workers, you also don't need to have Marxist ideology to know you're getting a raw-deal or that maybe you could run things better. These ideas all pre-dated Marx and Marxism and it was the expereince of things like the French Revolution (and limitations of bourgeois democracy) and the early English worker movements that caused Marx to question the system and look for alternatives.

Because of that - especially in pop-culture - pseudo-marxist or pseudo-class conscious ideas seep through all the time. Often the are kind of muddled too because artists and filmmakers and musicians are petty-bourgeois in terms of being a semi-independent producer who depends on the rich but probably comes from working class backgrounds or is at least more familiar with regular life than the rich.

Also when there are more militant and large working class movements, culture begins to reflect these concerns more. So Hollywood films became very populist in the 1940s because of the 1930s labor movements - popular music in the 1930s began to reflect more to folk and blues music traditions - obviously 1960s music and culture brought issues of racism into it because of the civil rights movement.

[Bilan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUctLe-Fdu4

[Pirate Utopian]

Machete.

It references Che. Plus it rips on the anti-immigration crowd.

[Obs]

IUctLe-Fdu4
Sadly, The Coup aren't really considered mainstream.

[Bilan]

But I'm just so indie!

[Rusty Shackleford]

But I'm just so indie!
so is Ron Paul.

[Shokaract]

So in a commodity-free, abundant society, why do we still have empires and militarism? :blink:

To be fair, the empires are external. Hence the need for something like Starfleet, which is usually engaged in scientific endeavors anyway.

[the last donut of the night]

Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous talks about robbing the mansions of the rich, not seizing their means of production.

break their windows!

sorry, just had to slip in a casual attack against you guys:p