Why like this?

[StoneFrog]

I can't help but notice that with the communist tactics used, it being based in workplace struggle, it creates a feeling that the community just has to follow the workplace. But isn't the workplace only there to serve the needs of the community? And the workplace should be developed around that of the needs of the community?

I find if the tactics used to create the workplace movement to lead the community movement, is illogical especially in the Urban areas. Because within Developed countries which have a high amount of urban residents, most aren't blue collar workers, which obviously this tactic works for the best. But with white collar proletariat's i don't feel appeals to them. Before in the past successful revolutions (in terms of overthrowing the government, not establishing communism) it was based on manual labourers and peasants. With the nature of manual labour it builds comradery, but this is not so in white collar proletariat life, which they are pinned against each other. This reflects within the community, where in the past the communities where tighter and supported each other more. Now it reflects the same thing in the workplace, they compete against the "jones".

So instead of a workplace movement that is based in an environment that is designed to divide and conquer. Have a community based movement, where solidarity is shown across the lines of labourers and office workers, in working with in a community atmosphere. I came to this thinking, by looking down my street and really thinking of how people interact... they just don't. Neighbors don't talk, they don't support each other in times of hardship, but they seem to make an effort to out do each other.

Because a lot of, proletariat life within office sphere, will be made redundant with the rise of communism. Because most white collar work is there to support capitalist system. We need to make it so that they have a place carved out with in the community, and don’t feel like outsiders.

I was wondering am i going away from, communism with this thinking? Are there others who have thought along the same lines? I mean don't get me wrong im still for the dictatorship of the proletariat, i just feel that the origins should be the community not the workplace, and i feel that if it where within the workplace in urban areas they wouldn't get the community support needed.

[Comrade Gwydion]

Funny enough, one of the parts of the college education I'm doing is to 'help neighbourhoods organize 'neighbourhood' events like celebrations, so that they can learn they can achieve much if they organize together'.
Radical, no?

[StoneFrog]

What as part of a curriculum? Or apart of a college organization?

[Adil3tr]

Workplaces are class specific, but communities are not always. I mean, you could go into a poor neighborhood and organize them i guess. The thing is though, the workplace makes things, it is the source of income, and it can strike. Communities cannot. I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons, and more eloquent ways to put it.

[StoneFrog]

Most communities are to a degree made up by class, obviously within a high proletariat community there will be petit-bourgeoisie. Petit-bourgeoisie can become revolutionary, and aid the proletariat. The russian revolution was aided by another class, and since developed worlds don't have peasantry we might have to look else were. To me the idea of creating a classless society is to get the other classes engaged and for them to become apart of the movement. Most Petit-bourgeoisie are just out to make a living, especially those who live within communities that are majorly proletariat, small shopkeepers etc..

A community can gain a great amount of influence, that is not limited by that of union and strike laws. Look at the UK and their strike laws which limit the strikes, and ban strikes to support other workers. A community avoids this, and if the community gains strength, it becomes a split power between the community driven organization and the government controlled municipals. Thus allowing the movements in the workplace to have more room to work with. im not saying that workplace movements are not to be used, im saying that the community should become the head for the movement.

This is still a work in progress thing, that’s why i was seeing if anyone knew of someone who took a similar stance.