View Full Version : Koran Burning vs Ground Zero Mosque
Die Rote Fahne
10th September 2010, 20:41
As we all know, or at least should know, there are plans to build a mosque near "Ground Zero". This is old news. Everyone with a brain is fine with this. However, we all know the outcry from the right wing and bigoted Americans against it, because "it will insult the 9/11 victims and families", when in reality the reasons are simply anti-Islam. We all know that that is completely absurd.
Another case is the Pastor Terry Jones. He wishes to hold a gathering of his church goers. What is the purpose of this gathering? To burn the Koran. Now, we can see that the reason for doing this is also the anti-Islam sentiment of the right wing in America.
Outside of the obvious, what's the relation? Well, the relation is that the right are comparing the creation of a mosque near ground zero to the burning of the Koran. Not only that, Terry Jones is now saying that he will not burn the Koran if Muslims do not build a mosque near ground zero.
I want to make the point that the right are off in there comparison. If it were an Al-Qaeda training camp being built near ground zero, then the comparison would be fair.
Anyways, here's a video to help you out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMCs46munSo
Can someone move this to OI -> Religion? Or is it better here?
Jimmie Higgins
10th September 2010, 21:32
Well, the relation is that the right are comparing the creation of a mosque near ground zero to the burning of the Koran. Not only that, Terry Jones is now saying that he will not burn the Koran if Muslims do not build a mosque near ground zero.If I were that Imam, I'd reply to the deal of not burning the Koran if the "Mosque" is moved with: "We do not give into the demands of terrorists".
I've been thinking about this same equation that the right and the media have been making and to me it would be like if the KKK said: "Ok, we will stop burning crosses just as soon as all black people leave our town".
The building of an Islamic community center is not the same as symbolic terrorism of burning books associated with an oppressed group in society. Both the anti-mosque protests and the burning of the Koran are the same social effect: to make arab muslems suspect ("we need to know where the money for the mosque is coming from!") and intimidate people from these groups, making them feel that they will not be supported by the population as a whole if they come under attack or have their rights violated.
Die Rote Fahne
10th September 2010, 21:51
If I were that Imam, I'd reply to the deal of not burning the Koran if the "Mosque" is moved with: "We do not give into the demands of terrorists".
I've been thinking about this same equation that the right and the media have been making and to me it would be like if the KKK said: "Ok, we will stop burning crosses just as soon as all black people leave our town".
The building of an Islamic community center is not the same as symbolic terrorism of burning books associated with an oppressed group in society. Both the anti-mosque protests and the burning of the Koran are the same social effect: to make arab muslems suspect ("we need to know where the money for the mosque is coming from!") and intimidate people from these groups, making them feel that they will not be supported by the population as a whole if they come under attack or have their rights violated.
Precisely. It still goes to show that the right are more worried about having someone to blame for their troubles, other than the bourgeoisie.
They still do not comprehend that there is a difference between moderate muslims in America, and a terrorist organization. If we were to draw the same comparisons they make all the time, all Christians would be like the KKK and Westboro baptist church.
It's this culture of ignorance promoted by the right and supported by the bourgeoisie, for obvious reasons, that is so dangerous.
It saddens me how backward the USA is. How they lack a collective class conscious. How the right can take traits from fascism and still be promoted as "the majority" or even considered the least bit legitimate by the Democrats, moderates and Liberals alike.
RedStarOverChina
10th September 2010, 22:32
A while a go two Egyptian Christians joined the protest against the Mosque. The other protesters shouted them down thinking their were Muslims. Those two idoits got so scared they had to be escorted by the cops away from the angry crowd.
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