Marxist viewpoints

[Rafiq]

Okay, now I am a bit confused, so I ask these questions

-What is the Marxist view on Gun ownership

-What is the Marxist view on "Liberals"

-What is the Marxist view on 'Free Thought' in 'Modernized' nations(I don't think Free thought really exists, especially in Superpower Nations)

[A Revolutionary Tool]

-What is the Marxist view on Gun ownership
My view is it's hard to have a revolution without guns. Throwing shoes is a lot less effective in my view.


-What is the Marxist view on "Liberals"
I see them as traitorous to the working class. Liberals in the United States have a way of fooling the workers into thinking we can just fix capitalism instead of just scrapping it altogether. We agree on points of some social issues obviously, equality for the gay community, end to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan(Some want this, some don't). But it's usually for different reasons why we agree with them. And of course I don't agree with the liberals who think we should not be able to own guns.


-What is the Marxist view on 'Free Thought' in 'Modernized' nations(I don't think Free thought really exists, especially in Superpower Nations)
I don't really even know what you mean by that, sorry.

[Adil3tr]

Okay, now I am a bit confused, so I ask these questions


-What is the Marxist view on Gun ownership
In Canada they have plenty of guns, but since they treat their poor well, and don't have a lot of the problems we have, they have much less gun violence. With complete equality and no crime, gun ownership is fine.


-What is the Marxist view on "Liberals"
They piss me off because they draw workers in and then completely disappoint them. They're also far too influenced by the rich. To be completly honest, they're not the left, they're the center.


-What is the Marxist view on 'Free Thought' in 'Modernized' nations(I don't think Free thought really exists, especially in Superpower Nations)
IF you mean free speech, most of us are for it. If someone is racist or douchy, just ignore them or defeat their argument.

[Rafiq]

IF you mean free speech, most of us are for it. If someone is racist or douchy, just ignore them or defeat their argument.


No no not free speech... But in capitalist nations they always boast about having free thought...

But is there really free thought in capitalist nations?

[Adil3tr]

Ummm, no i guess. Most of the real left viewpoints are hidden, and leftists who aren't liberal pussies are shoved out of view by the media. I think this means that you are free to think how you wish. Thats kind of a crap analysis. What about McCarthyism, back then (and probably still) people thought it was okay to shut down a democratic organization like the AYC (American Youth Congress) for being too socialist. Not to meantion the overthrown governments.

[ZombieGrits]

"Freedom of thought" exists everywhere*, freedom of speech is what matters. who gives a shit about thoughts if you can't act on them or speak your mind?

*with the one caveat of powerful ideas shoving less influential ones out of the spotlight :glare: