Revleft FreeRice Group

[Adil3tr]

Can we please all (or some) go on freerice?
Look, here's the Revleft Group (http://beta.freerice.com/content/revleft)

:D

[The Idler]

Can we not encourage illusions in charity?

[Q]

Can we not encourage illusions in charity?

This times a million. What a stupid site.

[Dimitri Molotov]

o kind of like this site, what do you think is stupid about it?

[The Idler]

It is stupid that in a society of abundance and starvation we should rely on voluntary benevolence of the well-off to look after the poor.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

It is stupid that in a society of abundance and starvation we should rely on voluntary benevolence of the well-off to look after the poor.

That's true, but in the meantime I see nothing wrong with charity that doesn't attempt to preach to the recipients.

[ZeroNowhere]

From what I recall of FreeRice, though, RiceBots are required for a person to make anything nearing a significant contribution, especially if they have other things to do.

[Jazzhands]

From what I recall of FreeRice, though, RiceBots are required for a person to make anything nearing a significant contribution, especially if they have other things to do.

The questions are geared towards kids, since they're all extremely easy for the most part. So they really wouldn't have things to do for the most part. They can't drive yet.

[The Idler]

That's true, but in the meantime I see nothing wrong with charity that doesn't attempt to preach to the recipients.
Nothing? Really, nothing? Nobody mentioned religious charities until you mentioned it.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Nothing? Really, nothing? Nobody mentioned religious charities until you mentioned it.

Perhaps you could explain what you think is so wrong with sincere charity?

I mean, it's all very well blaming it all on capitalism and proclaiming revolution as the solution, but if people need help now, and there are others willing to offer it freely, do you really think people with a conscience should just say "fuck it, they'll be alright once capitalism passes away"?

[GreenCommunism]

who do they send the rice to? a religious charity?

[Jazzhands]

Perhaps you could explain what you think is so wrong with sincere charity?

I mean, it's all very well blaming it all on capitalism and proclaiming revolution as the solution, but if people need help now, and there are others willing to offer it freely, do you really think people with a conscience should just say "fuck it, they'll be alright once capitalism passes away"?

Obviously. But it's still rather useless in the grand scheme of things. All the philanthropy in the world won't make a difference unless capitalism is overthrown. That's not really the issue, though. The immediate issue is whether or not it actually works. The people who actually do go to this site make, at most, 50-300 grains before they get bored. To put that in perspective, the first estimate is about five small spoonfuls of rice. The second is probably about half a bowl or so. I'm not really a rice expert. It adds up if lots of people do it, that's true. But it's still a tiny amount.

The countries the rice is sent to probably have very good reasons to be poor. Civil war, being occupied by another nation, genocide, ethnic cleansing, repressive dictator who seizes everything for his military, or some other factor that makes it very likely that this rice will never end up in the hands of people who need it. Case in point: Cambodia, during the Vietnamese post-Pol Pot years. A lot of charities were donating heavily to Cambodia to alleviate the consequences of the American bombing, the Cambodian Genocide and the Vietnamese invasion. The Khmer Rouge were still out there, along with several other anti-PRK groups. A huge percentage of the supplies sent through charity found their way into the hands of the Khmer Rouge.

[GreenCommunism]

hm as long as that rice went to the khmer rouge then to the people is it really that bad?

what is a bowl of rice by the way? a complete one?

[Jazzhands]

hm as long as that rice went to the khmer rouge then to the people is it really that bad?

I'm sure the Khmer Rouge were very humanitarian about it.:rolleyes: Seriously, we're talking about the Khmer Rouge here. Those guys that killed a shitload of people through executions, forced labor, and starvation. It also wouldn't be practical for them anyway, since they were getting beaten pretty badly. They would need all the supplies they could get.


what is a bowl of rice by the way? a complete one?

I'm not a rice specialist. But I do know that you take a bowl and fill it with rice.:D

[GreenCommunism]

I'm sure the Khmer Rouge were very humanitarian about it. Seriously, we're talking about the Khmer Rouge here. Those guys that killed a shitload of people through executions, forced labor, and starvation. It also wouldn't be practical for them anyway, since they were getting beaten pretty badly. They would need all the supplies they could get.

ive heard the khmer rouge were not as bad as they are painted out to be, of course they were shitlessly bad. just not as much, we shouldn't accept bourgeois propaganda because something is obviously stupid and wrong.

most population who accept such things often have been through conditions that were worse because of wars ,so they see their own country doing those things as being much less worse. for example, the russian civil war and ww2 each killed 20 million russian, so stalinism is not that big of a deal for the russian population, if stalinism happened in any western nation it would be a big deal.

as for the food, would the khmer rouge keep it for the leadership? if not i dont see the problem with supplying food to the khmer rouge,even the united states sent food to north korea.

I'm not a rice specialist. But I do know that you take a bowl and fill it with rice.
i meant how much grain for a bowl, and apparently, 1 meal is 9600 grains, so fuck this site. go work somewhere and donate this money instead. or better yet, fund a revolutionary movement since we all know charity is depolitization of poverty and is usually used as political pressure.

[Adil3tr]

A days worth is 20,000 grains and all the grain goes to the UN. This is still better than screwing around online. Also, if I thought this was an end in itself, I wouldn;t be a communist.