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L.A.P.
6th September 2010, 00:44
National Anarchism is a very interesting radical right-wing ideology to me in the sense that I can't fathom white nationalist siding with anarchist, islamist, and socialist. From what I understand National Anarchism believes in a world where people go back to living in tribes together working in a socialist system rather than a capitalist one. However, National Anarchism may say it is anti-statist because they believe in small tribes rather than organized states National Anarchism still wants their small tribes to be ruled by authoritarian leadership and want separation of ethnic minorities, homosexuals, and ideological minorities. In conclusion to all that I have read about the ideas of National Anarchism it seems like a more bizarre form of Neo-Fascism except that they lean more to the economic center-left but could not be more to the social right, you know when we mock right-winger as wanting to regress the world and go back to being neanderthals? Well these right-wingers are the real fucking deal when it comes to that, don't let them fool you they want a powerful authoritarian state too except they want it ran by neanderthals. A simpler way to understand National Anarchism is just imagine Benito Mussolini being absolute leader of the Tribe of Italy instead of the Kingdom of Italy. I always thought that Radical forms of Libertarianism (such as Free-Market Anarchism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, etc.) were the most bizarre and stupid right-wing ideologies I have ever come across but National Anarchism just tops it all.

Kiev Communard
6th September 2010, 22:32
National Anarchism is truly the most bizarre of all right-wing ideologies. Basically they seek to substitute the existing class society for the sort of retrofitted emerging class society of late tribalism. Eduard Limonov and his (former) National Bolshevik (currently National Anarchists) are the lamest example of the followers of such ridiculous ideology.

JustMovement
6th September 2010, 23:11
check out nazi.org, that's right the libertarian national socialist green party.

JustMovement
6th September 2010, 23:15
I guess the fascists as well hang around and smoke massive fucking spliffs

Die Rote Fahne
6th September 2010, 23:18
The ideology is redundant in its entirety. Anarchism is about no hierarchy. Separating by race, culture, religion, etc only creates more hierarchy.

What do you say to someone who says "I'm a national anarchist"? You say, "no, you're an idiot".

Bud Struggle
6th September 2010, 23:58
I guess the fascists as well hang around and smoke massive fucking spliffs

Those are the Rasta-Bolsheviks. :)

L.A.P.
7th September 2010, 01:31
check out nazi.org, that's right the libertarian national socialist green party.

These new far right movements are just starting to get sad now. Fascism mixed with Libertarianism and Environmentalism? I'm starting to think these right-wingers are just downright confused on what ideals they subscribe to. They sound just like National Anarchist but even more twisted and fucked up, I could at least fathom the ideas of National anarchism and where they stand but I don't even know where to start with these guys.:unsure:

Kayser_Soso
7th September 2010, 07:13
I had the sad experience of debating with National Anarchists and ideology is really irrelevant with these people. They will say pretty much anything so as to be 'edgy' and 'revolutionary'. In these discussions it seemed like they just didn't want to work, at all. On one hand they have a point that in an anarchist society, they ought to have a right to "opt-out" and create their own community only for those they define as their "nation"(yes, this would be hilariously arbitrary of course), but on the other they cannot then go on and talk about individual freedom the way anarchists do. After all, this is a commune where your sexual relations would be highly restricted. If someone voluntarily opted for that, it's their problem, but they cannot go on and talk about no authority, freedom, and what not.

But re-capping what I said before, don't try to understand the ideology of national anarchism because there really is none. You have to remember that prior to national anarchism, their "leader" Troy Southgate changed ideologies as though they were pairs of socks. One could say they are still fascists, but with a disdain for traditional religion and a lot of talk about "decentralization", whatever the hell that really means.

Conquer or Die
9th September 2010, 23:33
Irrational exploitative political parties with no significance are good food for the gulag.