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Zanthorus
5th September 2010, 22:15
From what little I've heard of him he seems like an interesting character.
Him and his journal Critique have apparently attempted to develop a separate theory of the workings of the Soviet economy in keeping with the spirit of Marx's materialist conception of history, without simply imposing the categories of capitalism on the fSU (As per the state-capitalist theories) but without characterising it as any kind of "workers' state" either. It seems to be essentially a form of non-orthodox Trotskyism which extends Trotsky's notion of the fSU as stuck half-way between capitalism and socialism. They apparently saw the Soviet economy as a "non-mode of production" which was simply unworkable and predicted that eventually the market would be imposed on Russia.
However I can't seem to find much on the internet about him/them.
Lenina Rosenweg
5th September 2010, 22:25
You might know about this already but Aufheben on libcom discusses Tiktin to some extent in this article but concentrate on their critique of him. The article is quite interesting, IMHO.
http://libcom.org/library/what-was-ussr-part-2-hillel-ticktin-aufheben
Beginning of article
http://libcom.org/library/what-was-the-ussr-aufheben-1
Die Neue Zeit
5th September 2010, 22:30
He's a sectarian too. He made tirades against working with non-Trotskyists and insisted on the "transitional" method during the failed Campaign for a Marxist Party.
Palingenisis
5th September 2010, 22:35
From what little I've heard of him he seems like an interesting character.
Him and his journal Critique have apparently attempted to develop a separate theory of the workings of the Soviet economy in keeping with the spirit of Marx's materialist conception of history, without simply imposing the categories of capitalism on the fSU (As per the state-capitalist theories) but without characterising it as any kind of "workers' state" either. It seems to be essentially a form of non-orthodox Trotskyism which extends Trotsky's notion of the fSU as stuck half-way between capitalism and socialism. They apparently saw the Soviet economy as a "non-mode of production" which was simply unworkable and predicted that eventually the market would be imposed on Russia.
However I can't seem to find much on the internet about him/them.
I dont think anyone can despute the economic miracle under the leadership of comrade Stalin....Things started to go wrong when the market began to be re-imposed once revisionists took control of the leadership with his death. History shows the market more to unworkable in that region as opposed to socialism/"Stalinism".
Q
7th September 2010, 02:49
He's a sectarian too. He made tirades against working with non-Trotskyists and insisted on the "transitional" method during the failed Campaign for a Marxist Party.
But he works together with the CPGB, or is at least positive about them?
Ticktin has worked on something akin to a paradigma change on economics and certainly deserves more attention I think, including from me :p Is there something of an introduction into his ideas?
Adil3tr
7th September 2010, 03:00
I dont think anyone can despute the economic miracle under the leadership of comrade Stalin....Things started to go wrong when the market began to be re-imposed once revisionists took control of the leadership with his death. History shows the market more to unworkable in that region as opposed to socialism/"Stalinism".
Ummm... that miracle came at the cost of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of lives. It was primitive accumulation on a massive scale. I'm not a rabbid anti stalinist who believes even the most one sided story about him, but you have to admit that, at least out of necessity, that development was squeezed out of the people like under capitalism in the 1800s.
Zanthorus
7th September 2010, 15:29
Lenina:
Thanks for posting the articles. Although I've already read through Aufheben's piece, in fact it was where I first heard of him (Besides the occasional name dropping by Loren Goldner).
DNZ:
I'm not necessarily interested in his politics so much as his economics and his unique theory of 'actually-existing socialism' which seems more interesting than many of the others out there.
Palingenisis:
Yes, we've all heard that 'anti-revisionist' line before. However I've read too much Marxist literature to buy into the whole 'great man' theory of history, unfortunately.
bailey_187
15th September 2010, 00:14
I dont think anyone can despute the economic miracle under the leadership of comrade Stalin....Things started to go wrong when the market began to be re-imposed once revisionists took control of the leadership with his death. History shows the market more to unworkable in that region as opposed to socialism/"Stalinism".
The economic policies of Stalin couldnt have just kept going though. Stalin's policies were to create an industrial base for the Soviet Union. But you cant just keep producing capital goods/industrialising forever.
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