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Adi Shankara
3rd September 2010, 09:25
I'm reading about this, and I'm very interested; apparently, many hundreds of thousands of Indonesians who supported communist activities or who were against capitalist rule were massacred in Java and Sunda and had their bodies dumped on the road sid

http://caliber.ucpress.net/doi/abs/10.1525/as.2002.42.4.550

freaky shit; how come know one knows about such a genocide in the west? does anyone else know more about it?


Beginning in later October 1965, and feeding off pent-up communal hatreds, the Indonesian army and its civilian allies (especially Muslim vigilante groups) began to kill actual and suspected[15] members and associates of the PKI. The killings started in the capital Jakarta, spread to Central and East Java, and later Bali. Although killings occurred across Indonesia, the worst were in PKI strongholds of Central Java, East Java, Bali, and northern Sumatra.[23] The massacres reached their peak over the remainder of the year before subsiding in the early months of 1966.[24] The estimates of the death toll of the violence range from over 100,000 to 3 million, but most scholars accept a figure of around 500,000.[25] Many others were also imprisoned and for the next ten years people were still being imprisoned as suspects. It is thought that as many as 1.5m were imprisoned at one stage or another.[26] As a result of the purge, one of Sukarno's three pillars of support, the Indonesian Communist Party, had been effectively eliminated by the other two, the military and political Islam.

khad
3rd September 2010, 09:30
There is a good book on this very topic that was published recently--Bradley Simpson's Economists with Guns.

Adi Shankara
3rd September 2010, 19:40
There is a good book on this very topic that was published recently--Bradley Simpson's Economists with Guns.

Thanks, I'm going to look on amazon and see if I can find a copy for under the 60 dollar price they're asking for a hard cover :P

RadioRaheem84
3rd September 2010, 19:51
Not only that, but also Suharto's imperialist venture in East Timor which murdered as much as 100,000 to 200,000 people out of a population of one million!

The venture was approved by Kissinger and President Ford the day before.

While we're on this topic. Does anyone know if the rumor about CIA operatives passing on information of Communists and socialist labor groups to Suharto is true?

Adi Shankara
3rd September 2010, 19:55
while we're on this topic. Does anyone know if the rumor about CIA operatives passing on information of Communists and socialist labor groups to Suharto is true?

Considering how efficiently communist Indonesians were murdered, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.