Most Proletarian Sport?

[Pretty Flaco]

totally serious topic here.

[leftace53]

dodgeball.

you can dodge capitalist bullshit, you can dodge a ball.

[777]

In all the really working-class areas I've lived in there's been a strong love of boxing and loads of boxing clubs for all ages and weights.

Everyone likes the boxing because it's not as divisive as football (I refuse to call it "soccer"), where rivalries go back a hundred years.

It's something that costs nothing. All the other sports are for rich kids really...

[Fawkes]

In all seriousness, if I had to pick one, even though it's a dumb question if taken seriously, it would be boxing. Boxing has always been the sport of the underlcasses, whomever they may be at any given time.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I don't care how proletarian or how bourgeois it is, I like long distance Cycling.

[Axle]

Boxing.

And Science Olympiad is bourgeois as fuck.

[Tablo]

Fucking Science Olympiad! Soviet rockets were superior for a reason! xD

[Weezer]

dodgeball.

you can dodge capitalist bullshit, you can dodge a ball.

:laugh: Dodgeball.

Bowling is about as prole as it gets.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Completely depends on the area.

Soccer is far from proletarian in many areas of the US, for example, though in much of the world it really is.

And honestly MMA seems to be the big draw amongst lower class individuals compared to boxing as well, it's almost like Nascar vs Formula 1 in a sense (I prefer boxing whole heartedly).

Lacrosse was a native american game, now it's dominated by John Hopkins University, a school whose proletarianism goes as far as that it's in Baltimore.

Baseball in Cuba or Venezuela is probably much different than in a Citi Field luxury box, just as basketball is probably played slightly differently in the bronx as opposed to at MSG.

[Devrim]

I'd say Rugby League without any doubt. After all Rugby was a sport that split into two different games, Rugby League and Rugby Union, on class lines.

Devrim

[S.Artesian]

Chess.

[Adi Shankara]

I voted Nascar just to troll the shit out of the Europeans on here. :D

[bcbm]

http://a.espncdn.com/winnercomm/outdoors/timbersports/i/lead_580_STIHL.jpg

[Invincible Summer]

I don't care how proletarian or how bourgeois it is, I like long distance Cycling.

I love cycling too, but it's so bourgeois. I mean, the wheels on the pro's bikes alone are over $1500 for a pair.

[F9]

Moved

[A.J.]

I'd say Rugby League without any doubt. After all Rugby was a sport that split into two different games, Rugby League and Rugby Union, on class lines.

Devrim

Yeah, I was just about to say that.

Although Rugby League is only really played to much extent in the north of England and a some parts of Australia.

[RED DAVE]

Polo

RED DAVE

[Sasha]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QVdyhpsOaY

[CJCM]

Dwarf Throwing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjFnLn05qM0&feature=channel

[Sasha]

i actualy torn between "wife carying"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIB9UcA5iQU

and "swamp soccer"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE-DZwiLwf4

[Devrim]

Yeah, I was just about to say that.

Although Rugby League is only really played to much extent in the north of England and a some parts of Australia.

Yes, but it is so 'proletarian' where it is played. It is also played in parts of France where there is a distinct class divide as well as New Zealand where it is much more based in the working class and Polynesian communities, as opposed to Rugby Union which is a sport for al classes, as well as a few other places.

I remember going to an international match GB Vs Aus during the miners' strike, and the British team coming out with black masking tape over the British Coal sponsorship logo on their chests.

Devrim

[FreeFocus]

Futbol/football/soccer, whichever term tickles your fancy.

Lacrosse is pretty cost-prohibitive now, which is unfortunate (it'd be ten times more popular if it wasn't so expensive), but it is played heavily in Six Nations and originated from their version of stickball.

[Reznov]

A casual pick-up game with your friends and/or family.

[Ocean Seal]

Football(soccer) is prole in most areas of the world, in Peru almost everyone played. The rich played basketball.

[Tavarisch_Mike]

Ping Pong, Football and Boxing.

[Pretty Flaco]

Football(soccer) is prole in most areas of the world, in Peru almost everyone played. The rich played basketball.

In America, I think basketball is the most proletarian. at least in the urban areas.
I've never met a rich kid that could play basketball. They all play lacrosse or football americano

[Sam_b]

Proletarians have time for sport?

[F9]

proletarians have time for sport?

Yes

[Tavarisch_Mike]

Yes


:thumbup1:

[ComradeOm]

I don't believe that any sport in more 'prole' than all the others but I do think that soccer deserves a special mention as the the first mass proletarian sport. Paraphrasing Hobsbawm there, I think

[Guerrilla22]

probably bowling. It's the only sport where you excel even if you are terribly out of shape and have finished half of a pitcher of beer.

[Sasha]

probably bowling. It's the only sport where you excel even if you are terribly out of shape and have finished half of a pitcher of beer.


euh, the only?

i'll see your bowling player and raise you an darts champion:

http://www.thaimedicalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/fordham-before.jpg

[Jazzhands]

The most proletarian sport would probably be the cheapest one. With that in mind, either soccer or rugby. You can play soccer with any round/oval object. Balls, fruit, human heads, etc.

Next up is boxing, then bowling.

Most bourgeois sport is golf.

[Sasha]

Most bourgeois sport is golf.

not farmersgolf

http://blogs.reuters.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/golf380.jpg

[Comrade Marxist Bro]

The most proletarian sport? Hammer throw. Obviously!

Think about it...

[Guerrilla22]

euh, the only?

i'll see your bowling player and raise you an darts champion:

http://www.thaimedicalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/fordham-before.jpg


That is one hell of an athlete right there.

[Tavarisch_Mike]

That is one hell of an athlete right there.

Yeah you can tell by that his fore arms are far more wider then his hands.

[Tomhet]

Bridge jumping! :D

[Buitraker]

dNK0Z4bZNaU

[Sasha]

Yeah you can tell by that his fore arms are far more wider then his hands.

it happens...

http://www.twenteactueel.nl/uploadfiles/gelder.jpg

[timbaly]

Baseball.

[MarxSchmarx]

how about running? everybody can run just about everywhere. It is tellingly also arguably the only sport that athletes from the third world dominate above and beyond.

[Revolutionair]

Most bourgeois sport is golf.

http://indymedia.nl/img/2006/11/40154.jpg




Also, a big <3 to the other person who voted lacrosse.

[Bandito]

Definitely football.
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/South+African+Kids+Play+Street+Football+YHnjLG-Jx_Ul.jpghttp://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Admin/BkFill/Default_image_group/2010/4/13/1271181163054/A-young-boy-playing-footb-001.jpg

When it comes to organized sports, leagues and professional teams, Devrim raises a good point about the Rugby League.

[timbaly]

how about running? everybody can run just about everywhere. It is tellingly also arguably the only sport that athletes from the third world dominate above and beyond.


I think you're right even tough it's only Ethiopia and Kenya dominating and it's only in the long distance races.

[Martin Blank]

Outside of the U.S. (and maybe Canada), there's no question that it's football. For the U.S., it's baseball, in terms of participation, and NASCAR (and stock-car racing in general) for spectators/viewers/listeners.

[timbaly]

Outside of the U.S. (and maybe Canada), there's no question that it's football.


I don't think it's soccer/football in Cuba, Dominican Republic, Taiwan, Venezuela, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, or Sri Lanka. There are probably other places where it isn't the "proletariat" sport either.

[Martin Blank]

I don't think it's soccer/football in Cuba, Dominican Republic, Taiwan, Venezuela, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, or Sri Lanka. There are probably other places where it isn't the "proletariat" sport either.

For Japan, Cuba and the other Latin American countries you mentioned, you might have a point, since baseball is very popular there, too. It's probably a toss-up whether it's football (soccer) or baseball.

The very simple solution to the dispute is to think about what the kids play on the streets or in empty spaces. I would say that's probably football, with rugby perhaps a close second in the English-speaking places you mention.

The fact is, though, that we're arguing about 12 countries out of almost 200.

[MarxSchmarx]

how about running? everybody can run just about everywhere. It is tellingly also arguably the only sport that athletes from the third world dominate above and beyond. I think you're right even tough it's only Ethiopia and Kenya dominating and it's only in the long distance races.

Actually in short distance sprinting many Caribbean countries excel but true, dominating is a strong word. At the highest levels the developed world (or at least the US) does do well, but I think the reason these otherwise impoverished countries produce stellar runners is largely due to the comparatively inexpensive nature of the sport.

[Apoi_Viitor]

Hockey

[progressive_lefty]

Football(soccer) - you only need a ball to play. The game has many good elements to it, that extend beyond its characteristics as a sport. It's familiarised a lot of Europeans with Africans, from countries they've probably never heard of. I know this is bad, but I never heard of Togo until I saw Adebayor playing for Arsenal.

[The Ben G]

Why isn't Starcraft up here?

[timbaly]

Actually in short distance sprinting many Caribbean countries excel but true, dominating is a strong word. At the highest levels the developed world (or at least the US) does do well, but I think the reason these otherwise impoverished countries produce stellar runners is largely due to the comparatively inexpensive nature of the sport.

I don't think it's fair to say the Caribbean (I assume you mean anglophone-Caribbean) dominates because the US does extremely well in short distance. What they do have in common is that most anglophone-Caribbean runners are descendants of West Africans with some European ancestry too as are most of the top American runners. Also, I feel as though it's really only Jamaica that fairs strongly amongst the anglophone-Caribbean. I don't recall other nations fielding many top short distance runners in recent past.

[timbaly]

For Japan, Cuba and the other Latin American countries you mentioned, you might have a point, since baseball is very popular there, too. It's probably a toss-up whether it's football (soccer) or baseball.

The very simple solution to the dispute is to think about what the kids play on the streets or in empty spaces. I would say that's probably football, with rugby perhaps a close second in the English-speaking places you mention.

The fact is, though, that we're arguing about 12 countries out of almost 200.

I think it's an over simplification to say that soccer isn't the sport of the proletariat in only 12 of almost 200 nations.

In Japan, Dominican Republic, Panama, Venezuela, Cuba, South Korea, Netherlands Antillies, Puerto Rico (not technically a country), Nicaragua and Taiwan I would say baseball is the sport of the proletariat.

In Lithuania, Philippines and China I would say basketball is the sport of the proles.

In Canada, Latvia, Belarus, Finland and in some sections of Russia it's (Ice) Hockey. In Sweden and Slovakia it's also arguably ahead of soccer/football.

In New Zealand, Fiji, Samoa it is rugby.

In Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Grenada, Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados, India, Afghanistan (though I've heard people say it's buzkashi), Guyana, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia and Pakistan it's cricket.

In Australia it's Australian rules football.

In Ireland it's Gaelic football.

I probably forgot some others too.

[MellowViper]

I picked soccer.

[Bandito]

In Canada, Latvia, Belarus, Finland and in some sections of Russia it's (Ice) Hockey. In Sweden and Slovakia it's also arguably ahead of soccer/football.

I'm pretty sure that in Russia, it's street brawling.

[Acostak3]

how about running? everybody can run just about everywhere. It is tellingly also arguably the only sport that athletes from the third world dominate above and beyond.
A lot of people who run long distance are the upper-middle class types who are obsessed with fitness.

[TC]

The most practical of all urban martial arts = sprinting.

[Ned Kelly]

all codes of football bar rugby union.

[Vampire Lobster]

In Canada, Latvia, Belarus, Finland and in some sections of Russia it's (Ice) Hockey. In Sweden and Slovakia it's also arguably ahead of soccer/football.

Ice hockey is hardly proletarian over here, getting involved is expensive as shit considering all the equipment etc. I'd say the "most proletarian" sports over here (Finland) are football and in some parts of the country, the local variant of baseball.

also silly thread is silleh

[timbaly]

Ice hockey is hardly proletarian over here, getting involved is expensive as shit considering all the equipment etc. I'd say the "most proletarian" sports over here (Finland) are football and in some parts of the country, the local variant of baseball.

also silly thread is silleh


I've heard that hockey is played outdoors and without official equipment in many parts of Finland. I know its expensive to join official teams and play in official leagues. It's also the most followed spectator sport from what I understand. I believe that's in terms of TV ratings and attendance.

Like you said the thread is silly, what does most proletarian even mean?

I just recently met a Finnish woman living in Cincinnati who was telling me about Pesapallo. I had heard of it before but I had no idea how widespread it was.

[Vampire Lobster]

I've heard that hockey is played outdoors and without official equipment in many parts of Finland. I know its expensive to join official teams and play in official leagues. It's also the most followed spectator sport from what I understand. I believe that's in terms of TV ratings and attendance.

Like you said the thread is silly, what does most proletarian even mean?

I just recently met a Finnish woman living in Cincinnati who was telling me about Pesapallo. I had heard of it before but I had no idea how widespread it was.

Yeah, especially kids tend to play it outdoors with just the most basic equipment but football seems to still be the most popular among both kids and adults, and involvement rates are certainly higher in any kind of official teams.

Also yeah, true, as a spectator port ice hockey is definitely more popular than football, and probably even F1 racing is.

Pesäpallo used to be a lot more popular, it has kind of faded away, but from what I've heard, in the more rural and especially eastern parts of Finland, it's still a pretty big thing. Though certainly not around here where I'm from, Tampere.

[RedSonRising]

Boxing is probably the most sought after way that working class people, both in the first and third world, try and compete for the sake of social mobility and survival. While football(soccer) may be practiced casually more widely, professionally I think boxing takes the cake on the number of proletarians participating in a sport fighting to put food on the table and make a better life.

[Rooster]

http://www.campbellgames.com/MorePics/Caber_throw.jpg

[Rss]

Ice hockey is hardly proletarian over here, getting involved is expensive as shit considering all the equipment etc. I'd say the "most proletarian" sports over here (Finland) are football and in some parts of the country, the local variant of baseball.

also silly thread is silleh

Pesäpallo (Finnish variant of baseball) definitely gets tons of negative points because it was developed by this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_Pihkala) disgusting fascist piece of shit. It wasn't even played that often during conscription.

Personally, I think that most proletariat spectator sport locally is hockey. Globally, football (soccer) or boxing.

My personal vice, watching occasionally couple of rounds of e-sports isn't exactly very prole, but there is growing base of fans, depending on game.

[Tower of Bebel]

In Belgium (and France and Holland) it's probably cycling among others. However Holland doesn't have a working class so it's pretty much a petty bourgeois sport over there.
And football.

[core_1]

rugby league

[Reznov]

Playing tag or ManHunt with friends.

[Fulanito de Tal]

Taco

It involves a broom stick and a piece of legal size paper folded up as much as possible. The paper ends up look like a taco shell. There are no gloves.

Rules vary depending on the amount of people playing and regional differences, but here are the major points.

It is similar to baseball. There is a pitcher, a batter, 2-3 infielder players, and 2-3 outfielders. There are innings, strikes, outs, bases, and runs (the score). The pitcher pitches the taco and the batter attempts to hit the taco. The batter attempts to hit the taco. If she misses 3 times, she's out. A foul is considered an out. The place where the taco lands tells what base the batter goes to: before the pitcher) out, bounces off of a player or infield) single, outfield) double, bounces off of an outfielder) triple, and over a line/fence) home run.

Team with the most runs wins. Kid whose mom finds out she was using the broom stick for taco loses.

[youpeople]

;

[Queercommie Girl]

And Science Olympiad is bourgeois as fuck.


Why would "science olympiad" be intrinsically "bourgeois"? Would you say science itself is intrinsically bourgeois? What about the fact that the Soviet world generally saw a faster pace of technological progress than the West did? (Like putting the first man into space?)

And how can "science olympiad" be more "bourgeois" than sports like boxing or football/soccer when top boxers or footballers earn much more money than top scientists?

Grassroots boxing is proletarian, but when one is making big bucks out of the sport, one is no longer proletarian. No rich person can be genuinely proletarian, period.

[timbaly]

Have you actually played this? It sounds like a game only a 10 people know about.

[☭The Revolution☭]

Paintball B) Viva la revolucion!

[Queercommie Girl]

Have you actually played this? It sounds like a game only a 10 people know about.


Are you responding to me?

Technically it probably shouldn't even be listed as "sports" in the strict sense (though I think it could be listed as "mental sports"). My essential point was to challenge the notion that Science Olympiad is somehow "bourgeois", which is a ridiculous idea.

Maybe science olympiad isn't really a "sport" technically speaking, but it surely isn't "bourgeois" either.

I do know that mathematics olympiads used to be quite well-known and widespread in countries like China among school students. So maybe you shouldn't use a Western standard to judge everything, eh?

As for the original question, I didn't bother to answer, because as a supporter of multi-culturalism, I find the entire question to be ridiculous. Different workers prefer different sports, and their different preferences are simply as valid as each other's. To say that there is a sport which is the "most proletarian" is putting the preferences of some workers over that of other workers. To say some kind of sport is "intrinsically proletarian" is simply cultural essentialist non-sense.

Personally I'm not a big fan of any kind of sports really, though I do watch various things (such as the football/soccer World Cup) now and then. When it comes to mental sports I like chess and Chinese chess, but I'm not particularly good at them.

[Il Medico]

In Belgium (and France and Holland) it's probably cycling among others. However Holland doesn't have a working class so it's pretty much a petty bourgeois sport over there.
And football.
How does an entire country lack a working class? :confused:

Also....

Who the fuck voted Nascar for most proletarian sport? For this "sport" you need an incredibly expensive car and numerous corporate sponsors. How the fuck is that 'proletarian'???

[grooverider]

Football (soccer). 4 points of references as goals and a relatively round object, from 5.30 PM (or whenever it's not too hot out) until whenever we're tired enough to go drinking whiskey.

[timbaly]

I completely agree with you but I was refering to Fulanito de Tal and the "Taco" post. I forgot to hit "quote."


Are you responding to me?

Technically it probably shouldn't even be listed as "sports" in the strict sense (though I think it could be listed as "mental sports"). My essential point was to challenge the notion that Science Olympiad is somehow "bourgeois", which is a ridiculous idea.

Maybe science olympiad isn't really a "sport" technically speaking, but it surely isn't "bourgeois" either.

I do know that mathematics olympiads used to be quite well-known and widespread in countries like China among school students. So maybe you shouldn't use a Western standard to judge everything, eh?

As for the original question, I didn't bother to answer, because as a supporter of multi-culturalism, I find the entire question to be ridiculous. Different workers prefer different sports, and their different preferences are simply as valid as each other's. To say that there is a sport which is the "most proletarian" is putting the preferences of some workers over that of other workers. To say some kind of sport is "intrinsically proletarian" is simply cultural essentialist non-sense.

Personally I'm not a big fan of any kind of sports really, though I do watch various things (such as the football/soccer World Cup) now and then. When it comes to mental sports I like chess and Chinese chess, but I'm not particularly good at them.

[timbaly]

Is this real???


Taco

It involves a broom stick and a piece of legal size paper folded up as much as possible. The paper ends up look like a taco shell. There are no gloves.

Rules vary depending on the amount of people playing and regional differences, but here are the major points.

It is similar to baseball. There is a pitcher, a batter, 2-3 infielder players, and 2-3 outfielders. There are innings, strikes, outs, bases, and runs (the score). The pitcher pitches the taco and the batter attempts to hit the taco. The batter attempts to hit the taco. If she misses 3 times, she's out. A foul is considered an out. The place where the taco lands tells what base the batter goes to: before the pitcher) out, bounces off of a player or infield) single, outfield) double, bounces off of an outfielder) triple, and over a line/fence) home run.

Team with the most runs wins. Kid whose mom finds out she was using the broom stick for taco loses.

[Sir Comradical]

I'd say Rugby League without any doubt. After all Rugby was a sport that split into two different games, Rugby League and Rugby Union, on class lines.

Devrim

Rugby Union - private school kids.
Rugby League - working class kids.

Amirite? How did this happen?

[Sir Comradical]

I wish I could say cricket for this question.

[Manic Impressive]

Rugby Union - private school kids.
Rugby League - working class kids.

Amirite? How did this happen?
not at all it's a north/south thing we played union rules and were by no means posh.

[Metacomet]

Football, boxing, or basketball. Football is the most though, a round thing, and 4 other objects, and relatively flat space. Your golden. Boxing and basketball get a little trickier.

[Commissar Rykov]

Sex. All the equipment you need you already have. Take that Free Market!

[Delenda Carthago]

Unfortunatly, around here the most popular sport amongst the proletarians is hooliganism!

http://img.pathfinder.gr/clubs/images/71/103571/46.jpg



http://paok-kordelio.gr/Photo_Galleries/PAOK%20Hooligans/images/92525883ey6_jpg_jpg.jpghttp://paok-kordelio.gr/Photo_Galleries/PAOK%20Hooligans/images/92525883ey6_jpg_jpg.jpg

http://paok-kordelio.gr/Photo_Galleries/PAOK%20Hooligans/images/paokgauros1992btj9_png_jpg.jpg

For every kid that plays football, 100 beat eachother for football.

[Tim Finnegan]

Rugby Union - private school kids.
Rugby League - working class kids.

Amirite? How did this happen?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_league#History

In 1895, a schism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rugby_league#The_schism_in_England) in Rugby football resulted in the formation of the Northern Rugby Football Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_Football_League) (NRFU).[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_league#cite_note-begin-9) Although many factors played a part in the split, including the success of working class northern teams, the main division was caused by the RFU decision to enforce the amateur principle of the sport, preventing "broken time payments" to players who had taken time off work to play rugby. Northern teams typically had more working class players (coal miners, mill workers etc.) who could not afford to play without this compensation, in contrast to affluent southern teams who had other sources of income to sustain the amateur principle. There were similar movements in other countries. In 1895 a decree by the RFU banning the playing of rugby at grounds where entrance fees were charged led to the famous meeting on 29 August 1895. Twenty-two clubs (plus Stockport who negotiated by telephone) met at The George Hotel, Huddersfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotel,_Huddersfield) in the West Riding of Yorkshire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Riding_of_Yorkshire) and formed the "Northern Rugby Football Union".[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_league#cite_note-10) Within fifteen years of that first meeting in Huddersfield, more than 200 RFU clubs had left to join the rugby revolution.

As Manic says, Union doesn't have the same narrow class associations today that it used to, at least beyond stereotypes, but League is still a very working class game in England. I can't speak for Australia or the Pacific countries, though.

[WeRallMarcos]

Id say soccer. Because all you need is a ball. And you can use two sticks as a goal.

[xub3rn00dlex]

Just out of curiosity, I have a personal interest in bodybuilding/powerlifting. The problem with the sports would be the massive amount of advertising done by athletes ( although I'm sure it is just as much as in other sports. ) Does anyone care to share their opinion on these two?

[Commissar Rykov]

Just out of curiosity, I have a personal interest in bodybuilding/powerlifting. The problem with the sports would be the massive amount of advertising done by athletes ( although I'm sure it is just as much as in other sports. ) Does anyone care to share their opinion on these two?

My problem with the sport would be the massive amount of narcotics used in order to increase performance. Bodybuilding is largely just a sport for Pharmaceutical Companies to use Human Labrats.

[Manic Impressive]

Id say soccer. Because all you need is a ball. And you can use two sticks as a goal.
Jumpers for goal posts hmmm marvellous

(That joke will only be got by those who grew up in the UK and are older than 21)

[Manic Impressive]

Unfortunatly, around here the most popular sport amongst the proletarians is hooliganism!
http://paok-kordelio.gr/Photo_Galleries/PAOK%20Hooligans/images/paokgauros1992btj9_png_jpg.jpg

For every kid that plays football, 100 beat eachother for football.
What's wrong with kicking off at old bill? seriously? don't fall for the bourgeois media representation of the working class as mindless thugs and instead try to look for the reason for why things like this happen.
It's a reaction to the harsh conditions we face compared to those of a (social) middle class background.

[Tenka]

Nyuuhaafu Puroresu, obviously.
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What's proletarian about a sport? Sports are all spectacles of pointless competition, weapons of mass distraction.:glare:

[Magón]

Football's up there, but Baseball (the sport of Cuba, one of the strongest and most beautiful Socialist nations), isn't there? WHAT THE FUCK!

Regardless I chose football. My second choice would be Baseball though.

[IndependentCitizen]

I don't care how proletarian or how bourgeois it is, I like long distance Cycling.

Mountain biking is my favourite past time.

[Queercommie Girl]

Football's up there, but Baseball (the sport of Cuba, one of the strongest and most beautiful Socialist nations), isn't there? WHAT THE FUCK!

Regardless I chose football. My second choice would be Baseball though.

Cuba is a deformed worker's state, not a "perfect" socialist nation by any means. An ideal socialist society would not have a "state sport". The state should not interfere in cultural affairs.

[Tim Finnegan]

n ideal socialist society would not have a "state sport". The state should not interfere in cultural affairs.
The concept of "national sport" is not the same as a "state sport", whatever that means; it refers to a sport of great cultural significance, and is seen as characteristic of the nation in question. Such things are typically de facto rather than de jure, as in this case.

[a rebel]

Well I think that to be the most proletariat sport, what professional athlete makes the least money?

[Magón]

Cuba is a deformed worker's state, not a "perfect" socialist nation by any means. An ideal socialist society would not have a "state sport". The state should not interfere in cultural affairs.

Your lack of catching sarcasm frightens me a bit.

[Hiero]

It's a reaction to the harsh conditions we face compared to those of a (social) middle class background.



Hardly, The police are only attacked when they interfere with working class people trying to bash the shit out of each other. There is something else at play in thoose violent clashes between football supporters.

[Aspiring Humanist]

"It is not just a game, it is a weapon of the revolution." - Ernesto Guevara on football (soccer)

[Kuppo Shakur]

Y'all are wrong. The most proletarian sport is Tree-Whack.

[Pretty Flaco]

Wow. I made this topic a long time ago as a bit of a joke and you guys take this shit way too seriously. :rolleyes:

Obviously sports are a means for the capitalist class to control the masses, wtf was I thinking...

[Queercommie Girl]

Your lack of catching sarcasm frightens me a bit.

Your Anglo-centrism frightens me a bit. English isn't my first language. How about you try to grasp sarcasms in Chinese?

Don't just assume that every single member on RevLeft is completely fluent in every aspect of the English language.

[Queercommie Girl]

Wow. I made this topic a long time ago as a bit of a joke and you guys take this shit way too seriously. :rolleyes:

Obviously sports are a means for the capitalist class to control the masses, wtf was I thinking...

Advice: If you don't want people to consider your thread seriously, post it in Chit-Chat.

[Dr Mindbender]

Kabaddi.

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[Lord Testicles]

Where is the "other" option?

The most proletarian sport is obviously cheese rolling, where hundreds of hungry English peasants chase a free wheel of cheese down a really steep hill.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/5/25/1243276761794/Cheese-rolling-race--Annu-015.jpg
http://www.travoholic.com/euro/photos/england/20.jpg
http://www.eventindustrynews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/cheese-rolling-in-glos.jpg

[human strike]

Formula one is the most proletarian sport - in what other might you see a rich man burn to death?

[Rooster]

I think we can all agree that purring is the most prole sport ever.

http://ejmas.com/jmanly/articles/2004/images/McWilliams-Tavish.jpg


"Purring" (shin-kicking), which originated in Wales, is practised a good deal at the present day among the coal-miners of Pennsylvania. A Philadelphia correspondent of the New York Sunday Mercury presented to that paper an extended account of a " purr" which took place at Port Richmond (Penn.), in January, 1883, from which is taken a description of the first two rounds:

At two o'clock the men appeared, wearing Lancashire shoes toed with copper, having submitted their feet for inspection to show that there were no protruding nails, and James gave the word to purr.

Grabby advanced cautiously, and appeared to forget about the shoulder-straps until his second reminded him of it. He took hold with apparent unwillingness, and then began the most brutal and savage contest that two men could engage in.

For fully five minutes they sparred with their feet in a manner that was simply wonderful. Blows were countered and returned with the same skill and rapidity as shown by men fighting with their fists. Not once in that time did either man more than touch his opponent's skin. Then McTevish, taking a firmer hold on his opponent's collar, lifted his left foot and, after keeping it poised for a moment, make a straight toe kick for his opponent's right knee.

Grabby deftly avoided the blow by spraddling his legs far apart, and with almost inconceivable quickness brought his left foot around and caught McTevish on the outside of the right calf. The flesh was laid open almost to the bone, and the blood spurted out in streams. McTevish never uttered a word.

At the same instant that his own leg was cut he gave Grabby what is known as a sole scrape. Beginning at the instep and ending just below the knee-pan, Grabby's left shin was scraped almost clear of skin. Both men were evidently in pain, and angry. They kicked and countered a dozen times again without doing any damage.

Then Grabby, by some mishap, lost his hold on his opponent's shoulder-strap. In attempting to grasp it again he lifted his eyes for a moment, and before he could recover himself the calves of both his legs were laid open by a double-foot kick. In return for this he succeeded in delivering a terrific kick on McTevish's knee, causing him to drop to the ground like a log, pulling the other kicker on top of him.

The seconds rushed forward and separated the men and took them to their corners to bind up their wounds. The first go or round occupied sixteen minutes. When the call of purr came again the purrers hobbled to the centre and took another hold. They were, indeed, a pitiable-looking pair.

McTevish's legs, although bound up in plaster, were bleeding freely, and the exposed places looked like beefsteak. His opponent's shins had been both scraped clean of the flesh, and the blood was oozing out from between the strips of plaster. Without any preliminary sparring Grabby made a vicious straight kick at his opponent's lame knee, bringing him to grass again before he had time to think.

[Magón]

Your Anglo-centrism frightens me a bit. English isn't my first language. How about you try to grasp sarcasms in Chinese?

Don't just assume that every single member on RevLeft is completely fluent in every aspect of the English language.

You know I'm not white either, and English isn't my first language, Spanish actually is. I wasn't assuming every single member on RevLeft was fluent in every aspect of English either, but you obviously missed my tendency (at the time), as being Anarcho-Communism, so it was a bit strange to me that you would take that remark seriously regardless if you caught the sarcasm.

Also, from previous posts, you seem to have a decent understanding of the English language, so that also sort of threw me from your lack of getting the sarcastic remark.

[PDXCommunist]

Ice hockey. Nuff said.

[Ned Kelly]

Aussie Rules Football

[Rocky Rococo]

Darts.

[Tablo]

Dear god I can't believe this thread is still alive. I assume people just voted for their favorite sport so of course football(soccer) won the vote. I don't think a sport can be inherently anything and I hope in a legitimately socialist society anyone will be able to participate in the sport they desire no matter the potential financial cost there would be in a capitalist economy.