i LOVE COMMUNISM BUT HATE COMMUNISTS

[bailey_187]

well not all communists, but alot

[Who?]

Perhaps you should grow a mustache?

[The Douche]

I have never agreed with anything on revleft more than I agree with this.

The left is filled with most awkward, socially inept, nerds that I have ever met, and it is so rare to meet a revolutionary who I would ever hang out with.

[Axle]

I have never agreed with anything on revleft more than I agree with this.

The left is filled with most awkward, socially inept, nerds that I have ever met, and it is so rare to meet a revolutionary who I would ever hang out with.

I agree. We've lost our moxie.

[Quail]

I have never agreed with anything on revleft more than I agree with this.

The left is filled with most awkward, socially inept, nerds that I have ever met, and it is so rare to meet a revolutionary who I would ever hang out with.

I disagree. Most of my friends are communists!

[leftace53]

I agree. We've lost our moxie.

Speak for yourself. I am young, attractive, and fuckin awesome. The rest of the peeps around here though....

[Axle]

Speak for yourself. I am young, attractive, and fuckin awesome. The rest of the peeps around here though....

Pssh, you don't know me. I got moxie to spare!

[gorillafuck]

The kid who I hang out with more than anyone is a communist. We don't talk about politics that often though, and when we do it's mostly just making intentionally lame socialist jokes.

All the communists I know are cool to hang around with. Though a lot of non-socialist political people I know are too in your face about politics (especially extremely misanthropic ultra-environmentalists).

[Quail]

Speak for yourself. I am young, attractive, and fuckin awesome. The rest of the peeps around here though....

Someone's full of themself :rolleyes:

We're not all weirdos.. honest :blushing:

[leftace53]

:lol::lol::lol:
You guys are neat.

But seriously though.... :lol:

[ed miliband]

I said just the other day: the best argument against communism is its proponents.

[The Feral Underclass]

I'm positively wonderful in all possible ways.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Most of the socialists I've met (outside of the glorious beacon of hope that is Revleft, of course) have been ultra-lame eager beavers who I could just as easily see working in some capacity for the Democratic Party.

[Lyev]

I hate communism and I hate communists

[Il Medico]

The couple socialist I've met were pretty cool.

I'm am also pretty cool.

[Raúl Duke]

I have never agreed with anything on revleft more than I agree with this.

The left is filled with most awkward, socially inept, nerds that I have ever met, and it is so rare to meet a revolutionary who I would ever hang out with.

This,
some people here I would flat-out call crazy IRL.


Most of the socialists I've met (outside of the glorious beacon of hope that is Revleft, of course) have been ultra-lame eager beavers who I could just as easily see working in some capacity for the Democratic Party. Same here, in real life most of the progressive activists I've met who may or may not recognize that the Democrats are really not doing shit will still continue voting for them as if they can stop the reaction/GOP in American electoral politics.

[Who?]

I have never agreed with anything on revleft more than I agree with this.

The left is filled with most awkward, socially inept, nerds that I have ever met, and it is so rare to meet a revolutionary who I would ever hang out with.

Most socialists I know in real life are pretty normal people. Only one of my closests friends is a socialist and he's your typical student, he's on basketball team and has a pretty healthy social life.

As for the socially inept nerd, maybe you should give the nerd a chance? I mean, everyone has their flaws, we should embrace all members of the movement. We both know that it's not going to change anytime soon.

[The Douche]

Why would I want to hang out with somebody who is just not cool? He'd probably wanna talk about the labor theory of value all day or something.

I think ya'll are either lying, or just as nerdy as the people I'm talking about, in my almost 10 years on the left, I have found that most people totally live up to the cultural stereotype of a "left-winger".

[Who?]

You'd be surprised, some radicals know how to have a good time. I mean how many of these lefties have you actually made a point of hanging out with?

It may just be my area but I've met a few Marx nerds who talk about music and life far more than Marxist theory.

[Sasha]

anarchist/autonomist squatters know how to party, sometimes a bit too good.

its why i'm imagining the dutch secret service, although we use far less violence than the extreme right, seem too see us as the bigger threat. we are radical but also know how to party, conect to normal people and be solidair so our potential to become big in short amounts of time is far greater.

[The Douche]

It may just be my area but I've met a few Marx nerds who talk about music and life far more than Marxist theory.

That doesn't make them cool.


anarchist/autonomist squatters know how to party, sometimes a bit too good.


Agreed but out here thats pretty much exclusive to the punk scene and I'm pretty over hanging out with punks for the most part.


If you don't get what I'm talking about, look at the "how you dress" thread or whatever. And look how many people on this forum like bands like system of a down and rage against the machine:lol:.

[Who?]

Well everyone has their own definition of cool, no?

[The Douche]

Haha, for sure.

[Sasha]

Agreed but out here thats pretty much exclusive to the punk scene and I'm pretty over hanging out with punks for the most part.


If you don't get what I'm talking about, look at the "how you dress" thread or whatever. And look how many people on this forum like bands like system of a down and rage against the machine:lol:.

i think your being an bit UScentric, over here there most squatters admititly like punk but they are by far not all punks.
we have family's, old hippies, lawyers, techno's, artists and god knows what else in the scene around here.

[The Douche]

Yeah, thats why I said "out here", but I mean, we have plenty of people who are not punks, but I've never had extended relationships with any of those people. And I've met far less of them. And I don't think I would have much fun with them either (but they are probably relatively normal people and not socially backwards like other revolutionary types)

[Rusty Shackleford]

I like your RAAN avatar.

[Raúl Duke]

Why would I want to hang out with somebody who is just not cool? He'd probably wanna talk about the labor theory of value all day or something.

I think ya'll are either lying, or just as nerdy as the people I'm talking about, in my almost 10 years on the left, I have found that most people totally live up to the cultural stereotype of a "left-winger".

This is especially so in the revleft tinychat for a while. It's not like the glory days of revleft chat where people just talked shit and talked to commiebot and whatnot.

[Pretty Flaco]

As long as I've lived in the state of Indiana in the US, I've only known one other leftist: she's a socialist, she's socially awkward, has a funny accent, and plays the bagpipes.
I don't mean to be mean, but she doesn't seem to be in the least bit fun...

communism needs some club music, fuck yeah that will bring in everybody

[The Douche]

I like your RAAN avatar.

Haha I know right, shit is sick

[Rusty Shackleford]

Haha I know right, shit is sick
its like the RAF one, but better lol.

[black magick hustla]

i dont know where you meet ppl like that but all the college leftists ive met have a good dose of hipster in em too. i dont have many communist close friends either but one of my best friends is a communist and he certainly is one of the most interesting ppl i met. what is cool anyway?

[black magick hustla]

i hate activists 2 tho

[ZombieGrits]

The only other leftist i know is ridiculously social, its fucking over the top. Once I was over at his house smoking and someone from israel texted him to ask if he knew about any good nightclubs in haifa :confused:

[scarletghoul]

:lol:

i have never met a communist in real life

[Il Medico]

i dont know where you meet ppl like that but all the college leftists ive met have a good dose of hipster in em too. i dont have many communist close friends either but one of my best friends is a communist and he certainly is one of the most interesting ppl i met. what is cool anyway?
Is he the one who came to NY?

[black magick hustla]

yea

[black magick hustla]

that kid is off the rocker btw. when i met him he had a 5 foot long mohawk and wore a studded jacket lol

[leftace53]

i HATE COMMUNISM BUT LOVE COMMUNISTS!

lol i lie. i only know 2 commies, both who have been ridin my back for a three way now, but of course, when i actually become single and can participate, they dissapear.

[#FF0000]

I know lots of communists around here. tbh they're mostly pretty average guys.

[Il Medico]

lol i lie. i only know 2 commies, both who have been ridin my back for a three way now, but of course, when i actually become single and can participate, they dissapear.
What?

[leftace53]

YIOU HERD [email protected]@#!!!!

[Il Medico]

that kid is off the rocker btw. when i met him he had a 5 foot long mohawk and wore a studded jacket lol
Really? Haha. I got the impression that he was just some uber skinny dude who was some what geeky.

[Il Medico]

YIOU HERD [email protected]@#!!!!
What? Speak up I can't hear you clearly.

[leftace53]

GRORP
I was thinking of changing my name to boxplot.

[Il Medico]

GRORP
I was thinking of changing my name to boxplot.
What? You're breaking up. I think we have a bad connection.

[leftace53]

DAMN RIGHT EWE DO!
i break up with you ha! no connectioan! hahahahahahaha yoo heer me b hahahahahah

i kid, the tardix is aliv

[leftace53]

Ahem.

Right. I have been considering a name change. My current name was a silly choice. I have been contemplating the name "boxplot".

[Bilan]

You should change it to:
"Venti"

[leftace53]

Isn't that a Starbucks term?

[Rusty Shackleford]

nah venti crszzzhhhhhh means rcssshhh tha-chrrrsssss cheeeee shhhhhhzzzz

[Il Medico]

Isn't that a Starbucks term?
Listen to Bilan

[synthesis]

i LOVE COMMUNISM BUT HATE COMMUNISTS

Story of my life right there.

[Shokaract]

I love hate but hate love.

[Rusty Shackleford]

so you simply hate by negating love through hating love.


i for one love pizza but hate temperatures around 350 degrees farenheit that last 15 to 30 minutes.

[Bilan]

Isn't that a Starbucks term?

http://www.mrkdistributors.com.au/products/RPapers/20.jpg

[Peter The Painter]

Cmoney, to be fair you were in the army, where man muscle pumping back slapping shoot shit and general macho shit goes on.

I however am socially backwards, and end up getting drunk and fighting, even though the guy i start with, can clearly beat the living shit out of me.

[727Goon]

Sometimes I feel like most communists out there are even nerdier than the objectivists. Hate to bring race into it but most white leftists I've met have been pretty true to the stereotype of the uptight humorless nerd. To be fair a lot of black radicals fall into the trap of being NOIish proud to be Black or making things that have nothing to do with racism out to be racist buy still the last cool leftist group who I'd actually enjoy chilling with were definitely the black panthers so weve got that. But yeah I dont hang out alot with any really political people, and the few times I've tried to organize with "activists" it's been an exercise in frustration for many many reasons.

[Peter The Painter]

LOL, how do you mean, they make things out to be racist lol :confused:

Do they go to the video store and ask for a christmass film, the receptionist offers white christmass, and their nostrils flare, eyes widen, and the fly into a diatrabe of anti racist ranting

??

[Chambered Word]

Sometimes I feel like most communists out there are even nerdier than the objectivists. Hate to bring race into it but most white leftists I've met have been pretty true to the stereotype of the uptight humorless nerd. To be fair a lot of black radicals fall into the trap of being NOIish proud to be Black or making things that have nothing to do with racism out to be racist buy still the last cool leftist group who I'd actually enjoy chilling with were definitely the black panthers so weve got that. But yeah I dont hang out alot with any really political people, and the few times I've tried to organize with "activists" it's been an exercise in frustration for many many reasons.

Like the radical black guy from Balls of Steel? :lol:

[Jazzratt]

Honestly I could think of nothing more unedifying than meeting a "crew" of hairy cave-RAAN "hardcore" types. I've never really understood the apeal of the whole alpha-ape sweaty dick measuring culture.

[Peter The Painter]

yeah, me neither, i just dress normal, even wear nike.... please dont stone me:crying:

[Wanted Man]

It really depends. The stereotype of communists used to be true to some extent, but I don't think it's really like that any more. Of course, I'm speaking as an insider, so perhaps I'm looking at things with rose-tinted glasses, but I'd say the really nerdy types are in the minority. And even if people like that want to join, I'd say they're more than welcome. I don't judge, but I do hope that getting active gives them the opportunity to get a bit more out of their lives.

Anyway, this kind of thing does strongly relate to your political activities. I think it's no coincidence that we have the most success in places where we're actually able to reach out to people by showing real solidarity. For instance, taking part in a squatted social centre in one part of the country, and strongly supporting a union project somewhere else. In both cases, we don't march in and demand that everybody listen to us, and we don't try to coup the whole project. We just participate, consistently show solidarity, and slowly build up prestige and respect. Honesty and true solidarity is something that is vastly underrated on the left. The people whom we work with in those projects know that we don't have preparatory meetings on how we're going to coup them, because we actually don't do that, so there's no need to be sneaky and secretive. It's a cliché, but honesty does work.

I'd say the opposite of this is a certain other group of activists who don't feel that way at all. At least where I work, they constantly try to undermine things like the unionist project and actively try to coup them. I think at this point, anyone from the Netherlands probably knows who I'm talking about.

As for anarchists, psycho is probably right to some extent, although of course you have different types of them. Unfortunately, I don't know too many anarchists here, but many of them seem cool enough. Of course, there are also different kinds. For instance, my sister knows this one guy who smells really bad and constantly berates her for voting in elections, because elections are bad. Yeah, that works. But I think (and hope) that people like that are the exception to the rule.

[Peter The Painter]

screw you wanted man

ALL us anarchists smell bad and berrate your sister:cool:

[Os Cangaceiros]

we don't march in and demand that everybody listen to us, and we don't try to coup the whole project.

Are you sure that you belong to a Leninist organization? :ohmy:

[Wanted Man]

Are you sure that you belong to a Leninist organization? :ohmy:

:lol:

There is only one organisation in the Netherlands that does this (Leninist or otherwise), and they're the equivalent of the ISO. From the Dutch point of view, it's a trait of IS-tendency organisations, not Leninist per se. Of course, the IS are larger and noisier than all the others, so it's understandable if people are inclined to think this is a Leninist, Trotskyist, or even generally rev-left thing. That's exactly why such tactics are so damaging.

We have our own opinions about unions and other organisations, but no, we don't conspire to take them over (whereas anyone who is active in the Netherlands probably knows for a fact that the IS do). What's the point of a "mass organisation" full of yes-men, where the real "mass" element has already left in disgust long ago? Besides this utilitarian argument against that kind of practice, there's also such a thing as respect and ethics. One very annoying thing about the more "aggressive" types of radicals is their sheer arrogance and sense of entitlement. Like a guy who bursts in, drinks all your beers, then leaves by car and says, "See you next weekend!" Just not cool.

[The Douche]

Honestly I could think of nothing more unedifying than meeting a "crew" of hairy cave-RAAN "hardcore" types. I've never really understood the apeal of the whole alpha-ape sweaty dick measuring culture.

Clearly you are one of the socially awkward nerd types I am referring to.


I am not hairy, I get hair cuts regularly. I dunno what "hardcore" means though.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I like defeatists because they understand why eh, fuck everything, it's all pointless.

[Nachie]

I dunno what "hardcore" means though.

Means yo dick is sweaty, gurl.

[Jazzratt]

Clearly you are one of the socially awkward nerd types I am referring to. To be honest I don't find that such a terrible accusation, especially if the alternative is so much macho posturing.


I am not hairy, I get hair cuts regularly. I dunno what "hardcore" means though. You'll always be a hairy-arsed silverback to me, sweetums.

[Bilan]

Clearly you are one of the socially awkward nerd types I am referring to.


I am not hairy, I get hair cuts regularly. I dunno what "hardcore" means though.

Shut the fuck up.

[The Feral Underclass]

Jazzratt is cool to hang out with! Book fair? Jazzy?

I on the other hand am a retched man. I take too many drugs. Drink too much booze. Talk about incest far too much and make inappropriate jokes to strangers that either lead to confrontations or the alienation of an entire party.

I am loud, belligerent and likely to perform visceral verbal attacks on unsuspecting party goers for no other reason but to be a dick.

Don't party with me. I'm not a very nice person.

[Jazzratt]

Jazzratt is cool to hang out with! :blushing:


Book fair? Jazzy? There is no obstacle save for my death or total immobility I will not overcome to be there.


I on the other hand am a retched man. I take too many drugs. Drink too much booze. Talk about incest far too much and make inappropriate jokes to strangers that either lead to confrontations or the alienation of an entire party.

I am loud, belligerent and likely to perform visceral verbal attacks on unsuspecting party goers for no other reason but to be a dick.

Don't party with me. I'm not a very nice person. Each and every one of these qualities is why I think you're hilariously good company.

[Il Medico]

I on the other hand am a retched man. I take too many drugs. Drink too much booze. Talk about incest far too much and make inappropriate jokes to strangers that either lead to confrontations or the alienation of an entire party.

I am loud, belligerent and likely to perform visceral verbal attacks on unsuspecting party goers for no other reason but to be a dick.

Don't party with me. I'm not a very nice person.
This makes me want to hang out with you, actually.

[Quail]

Jazzratt is cool to hang out with! Book fair? Jazzy?

I on the other hand am a retched man. I take too many drugs. Drink too much booze. Talk about incest far too much and make inappropriate jokes to strangers that either lead to confrontations or the alienation of an entire party.

I am loud, belligerent and likely to perform visceral verbal attacks on unsuspecting party goers for no other reason but to be a dick.

Don't party with me. I'm not a very nice person.

I heard about you doing that recently :lol:

I think you're fun to hang out with.

[The Douche]

To be honest I don't find that such a terrible accusation, especially if the alternative is so much macho posturing.

I was just messing around.:(

Also, why is it that anytime anybody on here presents themselves as maybe, a little hard, or kind of a tough guy or something its called "posturing"? For it to be posturing they would have to making it up. I don't act on here, any different from how I act in real life. I don't understand whats so bad about being tough anyways, its not like I am posting threads about being "militarily trained in spec ops".

[Os Cangaceiros]

i'm so hard, oh yeah yeah yeah i'm so hard...

so haaard so haaard, so haaard so haaaaaaaaaaaaard...

[The Douche]

That album plays constantly at my job, I fucking hate it so much.

[Wanted Man]

Jazzratt is cool to hang out with! Book fair? Jazzy?

I on the other hand am a retched man. I take too many drugs. Drink too much booze. Talk about incest far too much and make inappropriate jokes to strangers that either lead to confrontations or the alienation of an entire party.

I am loud, belligerent and likely to perform visceral verbal attacks on unsuspecting party goers for no other reason but to be a dick.

Don't party with me. I'm not a very nice person.

Wow, you don't sound so bad, actually.

[Widerstand]

German Marxists know how to party:

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Anti-Germans party hard too:

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[Os Cangaceiros]

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There definitely seems to be a thriving movement there...

[Widerstand]

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There definitely seems to be a thriving movement there...

OH GLORIOUS DAYS THESE WERE! now the APPD is dead =(