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KurtFF8
29th August 2010, 21:27
Source (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_russia_concert_attack;_ylt=AjRtX5DdwwGrOHs1uKK4 pL.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNzOWlhZ28xBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAw ODI5L2V1X3J1c3NpYV9jb25jZXJ0X2F0dGFjawRjY29kZQNtb3 N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzgEcG9zAzUEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNl YwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawNyZXBvcnQxMDBydXM-)


By DAVID NOWAK, Associated Press Writer David Nowak, Associated Press Writer – 20 mins ago
MOSCOW – Scores of bare-chested skinheads attacked a crowd of about 3,000 people at a rock concert in central Russia on Sunday, beating them with clubs, media reports said.
Dozens of people were left bloodied and dazed in the attack, television and news agencies reported, and state news channel Rossiya-24 said a 14-year-old girl was killed at the concert in Miass, 900 miles (1,400 kilometers) east of Moscow.
Fourteen ambulances were called to the scene, the channel said, citing witness accounts. The motive for the attack was not known, and authorities couldn't be reached for comment. The ITAR-Tass agency said local police had refused comment.
Many of Russia's top rock acts were attending the "Tornado" rock festival, the agency said.
Russia has an ingrained neo-Nazi skinhead movement. Attacks on dark-skinned foreigners in Moscow and St. Petersburg have been relatively common in recent years. The January 2009 murder of lawyer Stanislav Markelov and journalist Anastasiya Baburova prompted a Kremlin crackdown on ultranationalists, who were blamed for the killings.
In April, a Moscow court banned the far-right Slavic Union, whose Russian acronym SS intentionally mimicked that used by the Nazis' infamous paramilitary. The group was declared extremist and shut down. Then the group's leader, Dmitry Demushkin, told The Associated Press it tried to promote its far-right agenda legally and warned that the ban would enrage and embolden Russia's most radical ultranationalists.
Russia's ultranationalist movement is so deeply embedded in the country's culture that militant groups have sprouted up around Russia to fight it. Anti-racist groups regularly spearhead attacks on ultranationalists, sparking revenge assaults in an intensifying clash of ideologies.
Neo-Nazi and other ultranationalist groups mushroomed in Russia after the 1991 Soviet collapse. The influx of immigrant workers and two wars with Chechen separatists triggered xenophobia and a surge in hate crimes.
Racially motivated attacks, often targeting people from Caucasus and Central Asia, peaked in 2008, when 110 were killed and 487 wounded, an independent watchdog, Sova, said. The Moscow Bureau for Human Rights estimated that some 70,000 neo-Nazis were active in Russia — compared with a just few thousand in the early 1990s.


I have a feeling that Antifa took notice of this

Comrade Gwydion
29th August 2010, 21:36
....

Wha...



Why? The hell? Was the music 'jewish' or something?
And why isn't this on the mainstream news?

Obs
29th August 2010, 21:46
That's a hundred more up against the wall.

Os Cangaceiros
29th August 2010, 21:51
I have a feeling that Antifa took notice of this

They've got their work cut out for them. The neo-nazi movement in Russia is fearsome.

Stand Your Ground
29th August 2010, 22:14
Source (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_russia_concert_attack;_ylt=AjRtX5DdwwGrOHs1uKK4 pL.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNzOWlhZ28xBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAw ODI5L2V1X3J1c3NpYV9jb25jZXJ0X2F0dGFjawRjY29kZQNtb3 N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzgEcG9zAzUEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNl YwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawNyZXBvcnQxMDBydXM-)




I have a feeling that Antifa took notice of this
Hopefully. Shit like this can't be overlooked. Also the Nazis targets should pay attention as well, and prepare self defense.

Adi Shankara
29th August 2010, 22:18
Ah, Russian "nazis", probably the stupidest, most misinformed group out there, next to capitalist peasants, and black klansmen.

Agnapostate
29th August 2010, 22:24
Ah, Russian "nazis", probably the stupidest, most misinformed group out there, next to capitalist peasants, and black klansmen.

You're right. It's interesting to see that so many neo-Nazis promote a "white nationalist" agenda when the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union involved the destruction of Slavic communities in Eastern Europe in preparation for German "Aryan" settlement in that region.

Obs
29th August 2010, 22:25
UPDATE: cowards killed a young girl

Uh, Sank, that was in the OP.

Adi Shankara
29th August 2010, 22:26
Uh, Sank, that was in the OP.

whoops didn't see it; regardless, lets hope that the attack and murder of the little girl will bring wider attention and condemnation against the neo-nazis once and for all.

Pavlov's House Party
30th August 2010, 02:34
whoops didn't see it; regardless, lets hope that the attack and murder of the little girl will bring wider attention and condemnation against the neo-nazis once and for all.

I doubt it. There is a social basis for fascism in Russia, not a moral one.

Comrade Gwydion
30th August 2010, 07:41
whoops didn't see it; regardless, lets hope that the attack and murder of the little girl will bring wider attention and condemnation against the neo-nazis once and for all.

Doubt it as well...
2008? 110 murders. How many made western newslines? Zero as far as I am aware of.

Barry Lyndon
2nd September 2010, 17:05
This shows how far capitalist Russia has sunk: gangs of neo-Nazis running wild, attacking immigrants and random citizens they dislike, and even getting elected to parliament.
The Soviet Union sacrificed 27 million of its people to obliterate Nazism for this? Disgusting.

Glad to hear that people are fighting back, though, its about time.

crazyirish93
2nd September 2010, 17:17
can someone explain to me how some russians are nazis i cant understand it?

Barry Lyndon
2nd September 2010, 17:36
can someone explain to me how some russians are nazis i cant understand it?

They never listened to their grandparents, thats why.

Red Commissar
2nd September 2010, 17:53
I don't think it is a simple as that. There are conditions in Russia currently which fascist and neo-nazi type movements thrive in. These being but not limited to,

-Economic distress
-A sentiment to make Russia "strong" again
-Moral and social anxiety over non-Russians (National purity and cultural preservation)

Simply having a communist past does not exclude one from turning to these things. If conditions are right and one's mindset is in the right direction, it happens anywhere.

As for this brazen and cowardly attack, it once again proves that fascists anywhere in the world are cowardly. They may complain about antifascist movements harassing them, but at least those guys don't go and intimidate, harm, and kill innocent people.

Antifa94
3rd September 2010, 02:52
How is the Antifa movement doing? I remember a thread about it in 2008, and I watched a documentary too, but haven't heard much since.

Also, any more news about the festival? I'm really curious to know exactly what happened.

progressive_lefty
3rd September 2010, 07:53
Soft ****s, they always attack the weakest, always. So disgusting to hear a 14 year old girls was killed.

I wonder if the audience were Slavs? You know, considering Hitler hated all those Slavs and didn't see them as equal?
Fools..

Adi Shankara
3rd September 2010, 07:54
can someone explain to me how some russians are nazis i cant understand it?

They can't; to any Russian who knows history, or anyone who is a survivor of WWII, they are known as "traitors", "sellouts", and "self-hating".



Glad to hear that people are fighting back, though, its about time.

I know this 89 year old Kazakh Russian man who I met in Sacramento, and he said that if he ever goes back to Russia (inevitable), he'll make as many neo-nazis as he can have lives "of living hell", and he seemed pretty damn serious :D

Sasha
3rd September 2010, 20:31
according this raport it was not an nazi attack but inner rivaly by concert organisers, not to say they didnt rent-a-mob some fascists


rganisierte Massenschlägerei auf Rock-Festival im Ural


Tscheljabinsk/Ural. Nach einer Massenschlägerei auf einem Open-Air Rockfestival liegen noch zwei der Verletzten in Krankenhäusern. Ein mutmasslicher Organisator wurde verhaftet. Skinheads jedenfalls waren es nicht, die das Festival angriffen.

Auf dem Rock-Festival "Tornado" in der Nähe der malerischen Stadt Mias im Gebiet Tscheljabinsk im Ural-Gebirge hatten sich am Samstag 6.000 Teilnehmer versammelt, am Sonntag ähnlich viele.
Am Sonntagabend, so berichten Augenzeugen, seien plötzlich Dutzende von Autos, darunter auch schwere Geländewagen und teure Importschlitten, vor dem Gelände des Jugendlagers vorgefahren. Zwischen 80 und 100 Mann hätten sich dort der Oberbekleidung entledigt und seien dann mit nackten Oberkörpern, bewaffnet mit Eisenstangen, Knüppeln und Baseball-Schlägern schweigend auf das Gelände marschiert.
Bei Russland-Aktuell
• Frau angemacht - Massenschlägerei mit 600 Beteiligten (28.07.2010)
• Moskauer Neonazi-Bande wg. Morden abgeurteilt (25.02.2010)
• 20 Verletzte bei Massenschlägerei in Twer (07.04.2008)
• Vier Skinheads in Moskau wegen Mordserie verhaftet (05.02.2008)
• Nationale Revolution: Neue Strategie russischer Neonazis (28.01.2010)
Die Angreifer hätten - so die Augenzeugen - auch Milizionäre verprügelt, die sich ihnen in den Weg stellen wollten, sie seien in einer Kolonne bis zur Bühne durchmarschiert, wo gerade die örtliche Rock-Gruppe "Tarakany" (Kakerlaken) auftrat - und seien dann umgekehrt.
Nach dem Angriff mussten 17 Festival-Teilnehmer ärztlich behandelt werden. Zwei der Verletzten liegen bis jetzt mit Kopfverletzungen im örtlichen Krankenhaus. Ursprüngliche Meldungen, ein junges Mädchen sei getötet worden, sind inzwischen dementiert.
Auch Berichte, es habe sich um einen organisierten Überfall von Skinheads gehandelt, scheinen nicht zuzutreffen.
Jedenfalls berichten mehrere Augenzeugen, die Angreifer seien nicht kahlgeschoren, uniformiert oder tätowiert gewesen. Sie seien schweigend auf das Gelände marschiert und schweigend abgezogen. Es habe sich nicht um Jugendliche, sondern um Erwachsene gehandelt. Es gebe im Ural-Gebiet auch gar keine nennenswerte Skinhead-Szene, sagt u.a. einer der Organisatoren des Festivals.
Nach Angaben der Staatsanwaltschaft ist am Montagmorgen der mutmaßliche Auftraggeber der Massenschlägerei festgenommen worden. Es soll sich um den Besitzer eines Strassencafes handeln.

retaxis
4th September 2010, 08:06
Russia is pretty messed up. Yes there are a lot of nazis but the nazis are also very scared of the chechens and turks. The nazis are probably the weakest of the pack but still fearsome none the less. But the chances of a group of nazis having the balls to stand up to a group of chechens is pretty much zero. Chechens and other turks have a 'i don't give a fuck and will die with my brothers' attitude.'

leninfan
4th September 2010, 08:16
Time to take the Nazis out... weak mother fuckers.