100 years CNT!

[Delenda Carthago]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9jCosP1XzE

100 years from the born of the greatest anarchosyndicalist union!Still here,still alive and kicking!


A las barricadas,por el triounfo de la confederation!

[Delenda Carthago]

you stalinist pigs will pay for your betrayals on the spanish revolution!

[Magón]

No se preocupe camarada, un día España será como era antes de que esos cerdos repugnantes podría conseguir sus hocicos en todo! VIVA LA CNT!

(Alright, now I'm gonna go try and work over my Hang-over from last night.)

[AK]

you stalinist pigs will pay for your betrayals on the spanish revolution!
inb4 shitstorm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that the Stalinists on here had anything to do with the Spanish Civil War - so what are they paying for?

Also, this thread is doomed to become an anarchist vanguardist ciricle-jerk.

[KurtFF8]

CNT is probably my favorite anarchist organization in history. (Although for the US I like the Wobblies for various reasons).

Let's hope the CNT can keep up the struggle!

[Tablo]

Indeed. I've always been a big fan and it honestly amazes me they have kept it alive through all the shit that they have gone through.

[Who?]

you stalinist pigs will pay for your betrayals on the spanish revolution!

Yea bro, I totally betrayed you guys in the Spanish Revolution. :rolleyes:

This is typical, you guys hold onto grudges from 80 years ago while we're more than willing to work together.

[Q]

Yea bro, I totally betrayed you guys in the Spanish Revolution. :rolleyes:

This is typical, you guys hold onto grudges from 80 years ago while we're more than willing to work together.

Tell that to the many ML'ers that troll any anarchist and Trotskyist around here.

Congrats CNT! May another 100 years of class fighting not be necessary!

[KurtFF8]

Tell that to the many ML'ers that troll any anarchist and Trotskyist around here.

Trolling and sectarianism, unfortunately, isn't limited to one tendency on the Left as we all know by posting on this site.

The problem is that half of the comments in this thread (if the thread continues) will be focused on the the first reply that is sectarian, leading to more battles, instead of what the thread is supposed to be about: The CNT

[Widerstand]

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[Roach]

you stalinist pigs will pay for your betrayals on the spanish revolution!
OMG, YOU ARE SO AWESOME !:rolleyes:
BTW,I am not criticizing anarchists like AK,Tsukae, Nin not even AttackGr.Only how complete unnescessary that comment was.
Just like your Negrep.

[Q]

Cheezy video btw ;)

According to the wiki:

Today the CNT has about 35,000 members,[72] compared to about one million in the communist Workers' Commissions (CCOO) and about 840,000 in the socialist Workers' General Union (UGT).[73]
While not being that big, I think the CNT is the biggest contingent of the IWA. How does it regard its international work in practice? Does it acknowledge the need for a trans-European union for example in today's context of the EU? Does it send out contingents of experienced people to other countries to build up other unions or sponsor fulltimers in other sections?

[Delenda Carthago]

The "stalinists" post was just to provoke!:D


Other than that,as far as the size,CNT broke in two peaces-CNT(more "extreme anarchist") and CGT(who agrees to collaborate with other unions and be a part in the elections).CGT is much bigger-it represents 2.000.000 workers I think.

They both celebrate CNT...

[Q]

The "stalinists" post was just to provoke!:D


Other than that,as far as the size,CNT broke in two peaces-CNT(more "extreme anarchist") and CGT(who agrees to collaborate with other unions and be a part in the elections).CGT is much bigger-it represents 2.000.000 workers I think.

They both celebrate CNT...

Could you perhaps answer my questions in my previous post as well? ;)

Also, how do I imagine CGT exactly? Has it evolved into a yellow union with a bureaucratic layer? Or is it still a grassroots union? Is it part of any international organisation?

[Os Cangaceiros]

CNT is probably my favorite anarchist organization in history. (Although for the US I like the Wobblies for various reasons).

Not to be a dick or anything, but the IWW is in no way, shape or form an anarchist organization. Although that seems to be a popular misconception.

Although I guess you could argue that it belongs to the libertarian socialist tradition, as a revolutionary syndicalist organization.

[Delenda Carthago]

Could you perhaps answer my questions in my previous post as well? ;)

Also, how do I imagine CGT exactly? Has it evolved into a yellow union with a bureaucratic layer? Or is it still a grassroots union? Is it part of any international organisation?
I dont know what to tell you about your questions.

As far as CGT,well,there have been occasions that they didnt took the most radical descisions on many issues,but on the other hand,CNT guys are crazy...:lol:

Its no wonder the size difference of the two anarchosyndicalist unions!Btw,there have been a move by people standing in the middle:not as radical as CNT,but not as "revizionist" as CGT.I dont remember the name of it,I l look it up and maybe I ll come back to it.

[Delenda Carthago]

Not to be a dick or anything, but the IWW is in no way, shape or form an anarchist organization. Although that seems to be a popular misconception.

Although I guess you could argue that it belongs to the libertarian socialist tradition, as a revolutionary syndicalist organization.

Revolutionary syndicalism and anarchosyndicalism are adjacent spaces.
Like Beavies and Butthead...:lol:

[syndicat]

Both CNT and CGT have had various events in the Spanish state to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the CNT (since the CGT is a breakoff of the CNT and also defines itself as revolutionary syndicalist).

CGT has about 60,000 to 70,000 members. A basic difference is that the CGT runs slates in the government-sponsored elections of union representatives to the bargaining councils at companies (comites de empresa), which negotiate local collective contracts. The CNT refuses to participate in these councils because workers have no right to an assembly to ratify contracts under the labor law.

CGT has been prominent at the various independent syndicalist conferences, which began with I-99 in San Francisco, and more recently in 2006 a conference in Paris, put on by the French CNT, which was attended by the Swedish SAC, a variety of unions from French Africa, SUD in France and a variety of other alternative unions.

CGT is currently involved in the mobilization for the Sept 29th general strike in Spain, and as the austerity is being promoted by the EU and the European central banks, they are currently sponsoring a "march on Brusselles" (which is wending its way across France at the moment).

CGT continually trains its members through various courses. In some cases these are run through an independent social center, as in Catalonia. Some Spanish anarchists tell me that the militancy and politics of CGT varies from union to union.

[Delenda Carthago]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CGT_(Spain)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNT-FAI

[KurtFF8]

Not to be a dick or anything, but the IWW is in no way, shape or form an anarchist organization. Although that seems to be a popular misconception.

Although I guess you could argue that it belongs to the libertarian socialist tradition, as a revolutionary syndicalist organization.

You're not being a dick, comrade.

I always assumed that they were quite "libertarian socialist" and thus always drew the conclusion that they were an anarchist organization. Perhaps I'm wrong. After all they were in the Third International I suppose.

[727Goon]

Revolutionary syndicalism and anarchosyndicalism are adjacent spaces.
Like Beavies and Butthead...:lol:

Yeah but unlike the CNT the IWW don't do shit. Let me reiterate: Don't. Do. Shit.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Yeah but unlike the CNT the IWW don't do shit. Let me reiterate: Don't. Do. Shit.

They used to do shit. People used to be thrown in jail just for belonging to the organization.

Unfortunately they're pretty marginalized now, though. Their activities seem to be relegated to fightin' the Man at Starbucks, more than anything else.

[Delenda Carthago]

I think people are trying to keep the spirit of IWW alive,even though its clearly not working...But anyway,the post is about CNT,not IWW.

[aty]

SAC in Sweden also 100 year this year!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJpLGhvlPUo&feature=related

[Q]

You're not being a dick, comrade.

I always assumed that they were quite "libertarian socialist" and thus always drew the conclusion that they were an anarchist organization. Perhaps I'm wrong. After all they were in the Third International I suppose.

That would be news to me. The Comintern's Red International of Labour Unions (or Profintern) was highly political, while the IWW had a split in 1908 over exactly this matter, leading to the SLP walkout and the foundation of the Workers' International Industrial Union. If the latter was part of the Profintern I do not know.

[Rusty Shackleford]

The "stalinists" post was just to provoke!:D



fucking provocateur. :lol:

congrats to the CNT. they are small now but for them to still exist after francos regime is incredible.

[the last donut of the night]

you stalinist pigs will pay for your betrayals on the spanish revolution!

don't you have anything better to do than threaten people on an internet forum?

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Happy 100th, CNT. Keep up the good fight.

[syndicat]

kurt:
I always assumed that they were quite "libertarian socialist" and thus always drew the conclusion that they were an anarchist organization. Perhaps I'm wrong. After all they were in the Third International I suppose.

no, the IWW was never in the 3rd international or the Red Labor Union International either. there was a huge split in the IWW in 1924 over this. the CP tried to capture it and lost to an alliance of Left socialists and anarchists.

[chegitz guevara]

you stalinist pigs will pay for your betrayals on the spanish revolution!

You know, the Stalinist pigs who betrayed the Spanish revolution are all dead now.

Collective guilt is not a socialist principle.

[Widerstand]

You know, the Stalinist pigs who betrayed the Spanish revolution are all dead now.

Collective guilt is not a socialist principle.

When we're talking about MLs/Stalinists/Bolsheviks, it sure as hell is!

[scarletghoul]

I thought the word cnt was banned on revleft

[the last donut of the night]

I thought the word cnt was banned on revleft

lawl

[Fietsketting]

I thought the word cnt was banned on revleft
I would revolt if thats the case, or at least add pictures in my posts wich states CNT :P

[Rusty Shackleford]

I would revolt if thats the case, or at least add pictures in my posts wich states CNT :P
hint. theres a vowel missing.

[Tavarisch_Mike]

Soy un poco tarde pero solamente quiero decir Gratulaciones a la CNT!!! :thumbup1:

[Honggweilo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9jCosP1XzE

100 years from the born of the greatest anarchosyndicalist union!Still here,still alive and kicking!


A las barricadas,por el triounfo de la confederation!
i love this choir cover of the original for the occasion, saw it on youtube a few days ago. Much less grainy and earnumbing.

And true, the CNT has my respects as an organized class-struggle based union rooted in society, instead of anarcho-rambo'ism

[Delenda Carthago]

i love this choir cover of the original for the occasion, saw it on youtube a few days ago. Much less grainy and earnumbing.

And true, the CNT has my respects as an organized class-struggle based union rooted in society, instead of anarcho-rambo'ism
its a trip:when you compare anarchosyndicalism with "anarchoramboism" you put it in a way like its two forms of anarchism,which is not.Anarchosyndicalism is not a branch of anarchism,but a branch of syndicalism.It answers to the question "what kind of syndicalism",not "what kind of anarchism".