The Leftist View

[The Fighting_Crusnik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC-lBWy5CdI&feature=related

So, how are we suppose to view things like this? Should we view and embrace such things or should we stand against things like this and declare them sexist?

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Hey, I might look like their bodies if they had a little darker skin tone, not so exagerated hair length, and somewhat smaller boobs

[Tablo]

I don't know. That is a tough issue to talk about. I do not think such displays are sexist since there are such displays of men, but it is somewhat objectifying in the way these fake 3d are textured..

[Il Medico]

Real belly dancing is quite intense. It's quite the performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c29HV9aFCaM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FzDXvYAKEA

I have no idea how people can move their torsos like that.


As for the sexuality that is attached to it, I think it just just a product of the old western fascination with the 'exotic' east.

[Widerstand]

I don't know. That is a tough issue to talk about. I do not think such displays are sexist since there are such displays of men, but it is somewhat objectifying in the way these fake 3d are textured..

So because men are objectified and forced into stereotypes as well, it's fine that the same happens to women?

Personally I think it's somewhat worse than if you had real dancers, as it sets even less realistic standards.

[Tablo]

So because men are objectified and forced into stereotypes as well, it's fine that the same happens to women?

Personally I think it's somewhat worse than if you had real dancers, as it sets even less realistic standards.
I'm not saying it is fine. I am just saying that it happens to both groups so it can't really be considered sexist in the same way as people making jokes about women cooking in the kitchen and other sexist shit like that. :/

Sorry if my post was offensive as I have a hangover and feel like shit.

[The Fighting_Crusnik]

Well, as I look at the video (fully awake this time), I think by using CG and animated characters who aren't all that realistic in appearance (except for maybe a few people), I think people are more incline to look at this for what it is, as a pleasuring animation rather than as 3 girls strutting their bodies around. Besides, to get a product like this takes a lot of work. So out of all of the technological achievements man has made, we should be the most glad about this :D jk

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Well, as I look at the video (fully awake this time), I think by using CG and animated characters who aren't all that realistic in appearance (except for maybe a few people),
Hey, us few people exist.

[The Fighting_Crusnik]

Hey, us few people exist.

lol, true but you have to admit that there aren't many of your body type in this world thanks to mc donalds, taco bell and all of the processed food in the world. :laugh:

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

lol, true but you have to admit that there aren't many of your body type in this world thanks to mc donalds, taco bell and all of the processed food in the world. :laugh:
Sucks to eat fast food. I pretty much never do. The days I can't afford soy product, those become fasting days as in not eating. I have like a 90% soy based diet.

[Queercommie Girl]

I think Marxism is primarily about economic criticism, not cultural criticism.

Apart from obvious instances of reactionary culture (e.g. explicitly pro-Nazi, pro-religious fundamentalist, racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic forms of art) or culture that clearly harms someone or some particular group, it is not a good thing to apply too much "cultural censorship", it affects the freedom of expression and speech, and makes socialism too "moralistic" and "elitest".

Not all instances of the expression of feminine sexuality are necessarily sexist.

[DragonQuestWes]

I find it really hard to determine whether or not it would be sexist or objectifying.

It's just a matter of opinion really.