President Barack Obama

[Bobby501]

I was wondering, does anyone on here have any respect for this man? He promised much, and has delivered little (apart from that Healthcare "Reform").

[Widerstand]

Bush 2.0: darker tan, different party, better rhetoric.

[Peace on Earth]

He has a nice jump shot.

[ContrarianLemming]

He's not Mccain

[RadioRaheem84]

The man pacified an otherwise restless population with his rhetoric about change. It's appalling to see so many people on the "left" defend him.


Bush 2.0: darker tan, different party, better rhetoric.

Clinton 2.0: Admitted New Democrat, staffed his cabinet with the same people as the Clinton Administration.

[gorillafuck]

He's not Mccain
And Clinton isn't Reagan. Does that mean he's worth any sort of support at all? No, it doesn't.

[Hexen]

Obama is just a typical President at the Capitalist's service.

[Red Commissar]

http://files.meetup.com/1455805/281_cartoon_obama_puppet_hurwitt_large.gif

[Os Cangaceiros]

He's a closet socialist who wants to fundamentally transform America and everything it stands for. He's a big fan of Franz Fanon, Saul Alinsky and the Weather Underground.

Just don't tell anyone.

[The Red Next Door]

Fuck him

[durhamleft]

Fuck him

I agree, he's much better looking than McCain.

[communard71]

He is ambitious and disingenuous, a true politician. I haven’t met any dedicated leftists who don’t realize exactly what he is, the leader of the largest corporation on earth. Nowadays however, the U.S. isn’t only the employer of last resort but the investor too.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

He promised much, and has delivered little (apart from that Healthcare "Reform").
Even then, before he was president, I don't think any leftists did support him. He is not even that liberal. Like previously mentioned, he is simply Clinton 2.0

He didnt support universal healthcare, he doesn't support gay-marriage, he supports war on terror, he supports Keynesian economics, etc.
...What is there to like about him? Even my social democrat friends were hesitant to vote for him!

[Qayin]

He's not Mccain

sigh..

[Kayser_Soso]

I second the "fuck him" motion.

[Rusty Shackleford]

im in the CPUSA and i get all puppy eyed when i hear about him.

[Dimentio]

I think you are a bit unfair to him. After all, he ran as a centrist "reconciliator". Those who saw him as a leftist were deluding themselves and ignoring what he actually was saying. For example, it was a campaign promise of his to escalate the war in Afghanistan, it wasn't like it was any surprise.

The main problem of Obama is that he's actually seen as too much of a leftist by the independents, who increasingly are turning towards the opposition for the midterm elections.

[Kayser_Soso]

I think you are a bit unfair to him. After all, he ran as a centrist "reconciliator". Those who saw him as a leftist were deluding themselves and ignoring what he actually was saying. For example, it was a campaign promise of his to escalate the war in Afghanistan, it wasn't like it was any surprise.

The main problem of Obama is that he's actually seen as too much of a leftist by the independents, who increasingly are turning towards the opposition for the midterm elections.

I never saw him as a leftist. I was actually listening.

[Dimentio]

I never saw him as a leftist. I was actually listening.

The same did I.

The main problem in the USA which is making a leftist president or congress politically impossible is a FPTP system which is rewarding conservative rural communities at the expense of urban communities. Besides, parliamentarian left-wing movements have problems everywhere in the west right now.

[ZeroNowhere]

"Yes, America wants you to be free... as long as the choices offered can in no way effect real change or threaten the status quo. For all the lip service being paid by our candidates for the need to change, it looks like Business As Usual here in America."

- Bill Hicks (October 31, 1992)

So nothing new. Still, though, am I the only one who preferred Bush's rhetoric? I mean, they're both generally incredibly dull, but at least Bush could be amusing at times, albeit generally unintentionally.

[Magón]

I think you are a bit unfair to him. After all, he ran as a centrist "reconciliator". Those who saw him as a leftist were deluding themselves and ignoring what he actually was saying. For example, it was a campaign promise of his to escalate the war in Afghanistan, it wasn't like it was any surprise.

The main problem of Obama is that he's actually seen as too much of a leftist by the independents, who increasingly are turning towards the opposition for the midterm elections.

Another problem Obama has, is that he did come into the presidency with a load full of horse shit problems, and things left quite undone from the last presidency. I can't blame him really for not getting much done, as he's still cleaning up the problems from the last guy. I don't agree with his political party, and probably most of his ideas anyway, but people who elected him took him too much for granted. They thought he'd clean all this shit up in a year or so, but didn't really realize how big a pile it is he has to try and clean up.

I actually feel rather sorry for him, than hate him.

[nip]

Yeah I respect him. With all the vicious lies faux news is spewing out I'm surprised he hasn't broken down and cried yet (I would have).

[Tablo]

Another problem Obama has, is that he did come into the presidency with a load full of horse shit problems, and things left quite undone from the last presidency. I can't blame him really for not getting much done, as he's still cleaning up the problems from the last guy. I don't agree with his political party, and probably most of his ideas anyway, but people who elected him took him too much for granted. They thought he'd clean all this shit up in a year or so, but didn't really realize how big a pile it is he has to try and clean up.

I actually feel rather sorry for him, than hate him.

Yeah I respect him. With all the vicious lies faux news is spewing out I'm surprised he hasn't broken down and cried yet (I would have).
You're doing it wrong. :rolleyes:

[BuddhaInBabylon]

i have no respect for him or any other politician. They are forked-tongued speakers of untruths. Disingenuous, exploitative, corporate whores who care nothing for the environment/planet or about anyone who is not directly causing their bankroll figures to skyrocket. Yet i hear people speak of "the lesser of two evils" well that is horseshit. Washington is a cesspool of lies and wholesale death. The policies contrived and implemented in this town don't reflect the will of the people, never have, never were intended to, and never will so long as the american people have illusions that the president or any other politician is worthy of their respect and obedience. I'm sick of it, and i'm done with it.
I say let it burn.

[CHAIRMAN GONZALO]

MCcain & Obama, 2 heads of the same coin. Both serve the bourgeoisie.

[nip]

You're doing it wrong. :rolleyes:
oops

[#FF0000]

New boss, old boss.

Also his economic policies and ideas for national defense are basically the same as Bush's.

[Red Commissar]

Also his economic policies and ideas for national defense are basically the same as Bush's.

This is what a lot of people in mainstream discourse don't see. It's amusing to see some media paint Obama as a radical leftist who has defiled the shrine of the free market, and all this talk about gubmint and taxes, but taking a look at the entire picture will show he hasn't done much different than his predecessor.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Another problem Obama has, is that he did come into the presidency with a load full of horse shit problems, and things left quite undone from the last presidency. I can't blame him really for not getting much done, as he's still cleaning up the problems from the last guy. I don't agree with his political party, and probably most of his ideas anyway, but people who elected him took him too much for granted. They thought he'd clean all this shit up in a year or so, but didn't really realize how big a pile it is he has to try and clean up.

He never had any intentions of cleaning them up. It's not Bush's fault. They're basically ideological brothers. Blaming it on Bush legacy is letting Obama off the hook. He's just a replacement, any "change" promised was - as always - merely convenient lies to garner support - "bi-partisan collaboration", politically, Obama is what can only be described roughly as a huge pussy, a weak rubbish-talking indecisive bastard who, like Bush, does what he is told.

[leninfan]

Make your pick - Hillary or Barack?

[Reznov]

Bush 2.0: darker tan, different party, better rhetoric.

And hes not an American and a Muslim!!! :laugh:

[Reznov]

Make your pick - Hillary or Barack?

Death by hanging or death by stoning?

hmm....

[leninfan]

Here was my choice - Cynthia Mckinnie!

[leninfan]

Let me see here, one moment they are crying that the hangs with the Rev. Wright and his crazy Christian church, then he hires Rahm Emaunel(Some Jewish DuDe), and now he is a Muslim???? Must be an election coming up...

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Here was my choice - Cynthia Mckinnie!
What a joke, a former democrat joining a social democrat party. What a great alternative! :rolleyes:

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Here was my choice - Cynthia Mckinnie!
What a joke, a former democrat joining a social democrat party. What a great alternative! :rolleyes:

[Who?]

Here was my choice - Cynthia Mckinnie!

Should have voted for Gloria La Riva. :thumbup1:

[Die Rote Fahne]

My respect for him = slightly more than the respect i had for Bush, which was none.

Capitalist president is capitalist president. Whether he's an idiot or articulate. Black or white. Democrat or Republican.

TBH, I miss George Bush...made for EXCELLENT comedy.

[leninfan]

Well then, that must be the way I lean... Social Democrat... What is a Social Democrat...
I'm going to look up that Maria chick.

[leninfan]

I read her bio, I guess it's baby steps for me. Being the offspring of capitalist I shouldn't claim to be a socialist. I like the ideology, but I'm going to stay a Green for now...
Spicoli syndrome...

[Tablo]

Haha, don't worry leninfan. We will pull you into our evil web of Revolutionary Leftist politics. Muahahahaha!

But seriously, you don't want to be a Social Democrat. Welfare states aren't the same as democratic economic control.

[leninfan]

Well I am here to learn. I am anti-death. I would guess that the majority on here are pro-choice. I just am anti-hunting(vegetarian wantabe), anti-death penalty, no war what so ever, and I am against police meathead brutality.
The Greens are pro-life like the Democrats.

[Cencus]

Same shit, different window dressing.

All Barrack has done and will do is just a little tweaking round the edges, the U.S. system will stay the same.

[leninfan]

Obummer
Sick of the right calling him a socialist while he sends troops to Afghanistan everyday.