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vader
26th August 2010, 18:40
Hi everyone!

In addition to greeting with you, I wanted to talk about my hmmm... problem. I'm teenager who sympathize with anarcho-syndicalist movement. And I live in bourgeoisie family... It means, my father is a capitalist, he employs few workers. He knows about my political views, we sometimes talk about politics, but he claims that wage labor is a "voluntary agreement" and therefore he don't give a fuck about economical phenomenon described by socialist economics. So I think it's unlikely to convince my father to reorganize his business as a co-op, but I'm trying to do it. ;) He is a liberal (I also had such political views, but I changed it, mainly by An Anarchist FAQ). Unfortunately, his workers also are pro-capitalist and, which is ironically, most of them are also conservative (only one of them isn't). What do you think, it's possible to make them interested in libertarian socialism, class war etc.?

Beyond politics, I have very good relations with my dad.

I officially don't belong to any organization, but I participate in many initiatives taken by local squat and anarchist organization.

Sorry for my poor English.

Dimentio
26th August 2010, 20:56
Just avoid being grounded.

ContrarianLemming
26th August 2010, 21:12
but he claims that wage labor is a "voluntary agreement"is you ever ask a woorer whether or not they have a choice or not in having a job, you will have an answer to this!

welcome, feel free to ask questions in the learning section enjoy

suggest you don't just focus on your fathers workers.

vader
26th August 2010, 21:52
Thx for answers. :) I know that workers haven't choice in having job and, I told him about it, as well as about surplus value, accumulation of capital, antagonistic relations between classes, how reducing/increasing wages affect the prices and condition of classes etc. But he still spoke about "voluntary agreement". :cursing:

ContrarianLemming
26th August 2010, 22:44
Thx for answers. :) I know that workers haven't choice in having job and, I told him about it, as well as about surplus value, accumulation of capital, antagonistic relations between classes, how reducing/increasing wages affect the prices and condition of classes etc. But he still spoke about "voluntary agreement". :cursing:

you're a fricking genuis

Q
27th August 2010, 08:27
Welcome :)

Your dad sounds like a nice fellow :lol: