Julian Assange accused of rape, arrest warrant retracted

[Dimentio]

http://kullin.amplify.com/2010/08/21/julien-assange-of-wikileaks-charged-with-rape-in-sweden/

I don't know what, but given who it is who is charged and the vagueness of the accusation, I would say that I'm severely distrusting the police on this one. It feels as if they're doing a favour to their masters in the imperial city.

http://translate.google.se/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.expressen.se/Nyheter/1.2104976/wikileaks-grundare-anhallen-for-valdtakt&sl=sv&tl=en

I don't know, but I think its highly unlikely that probably the next most hunted man in the world after Bin Laden would do anything like this which would compromise his support.

[Comrade Marxist Bro]

http://kullin.amplify.com/2010/08/21/julien-assange-of-wikileaks-charged-with-rape-in-sweden/

I don't know what, but given who it is who is charged and the vagueness of the accusation, I would say that I'm severely distrusting the police on this one. It feels as if they're doing a favour to their masters in the imperial city.

Very disturbing charge indeed.

Though stark hypocrisy has never been unknown to humankind, it's still quite difficult to believe that someone so devoted to doing the right thing would be a rapist.

It's highly ironic that he was invited to lecture on theme "the first casualty of war is truth."


I don't know what, but given who it is who is charged and the vagueness of the accusation, I would say that I'm severely distrusting the police on this one. It feels as if they're doing a favour to their masters in the imperial city.

It could also be that the accusers are performing a favor for somebody there. It's well-known that the US has been completely unrelenting in its attempt to discredit Wikileaks.

[Dimentio]

Yes, especially since the two women knew one another. If they were completely unrelated, I would have started to doubt Assange's integrity.

[howblackisyourflag]

Nice try, CIA.

[Jeoh]

The source is the Swedish equivalent of the Sun. I wouldn't even trust their weather report. Has this been in any other Swedish newspaper? Any official police statements?

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

The source is the Swedish equivalent of the Sun. I wouldn't even trust their weather report. Has this been in any other Swedish newspaper? Any official police statements?

All major Swedish newspapers are equivalent of The Sun. It's where free press gets you.

[Dimentio]

The source is the Swedish equivalent of the Sun. I wouldn't even trust their weather report. Has this been in any other Swedish newspaper? Any official police statements?

It seems like all other sources are citing Expressen.

[Obs]

Oh, CIA. Never change.

[synthesis]

Wow. Shame on me for thinking they'd be so old-fashioned to commit his suicide. Pretty clever on their part, actually. I'm still convinced that Mossad was involved.

[progressive_lefty]

There's definitely something dodgy about this. There's a lot of slander in the form of libel. Imagine, the headline, 'Julian Assange, accused of raping a woman in Sweden, has just released new documents on the CIA's involvement with the Iranian nuc......'.

This kind of makes me feel a little bit scared.

[Dimentio]

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/08/21/sweden.wikileaks.charge/index.html?hpt=T1#fbid=D4B9Mf8i0BT&wom=false

The CNN has taken up the news now.

[~Spectre]

Eventually when they catch him they'll put some crack rocks in his pocket and a small child's dead body. Reports will emerge that his computer was found logged on to a jihadi website.

[gorillafuck]

Like a lot of people here, I'm skeptical of this.

[theblackmask]

Here's the official Wikileaks statement on this. They claim that they "were warned of 'dirty tricks'" on their Twitter.


On Saturday 21st of August, we have been made aware of rape allegations made against Julian Assange, founder of this project and one of our spokespeople.
We are deeply concerned about the seriousness of these allegations. We the people behind WikiLeaks think highly of Julian and and he has our full support.
While Julian is focusing on his defenses and clearing his name, WikiLeaks will be continuing its regular operations.
The WikiLeaks team




Also, via Twitter:


Expressen is a tabloid; No one here has been contacted by Swedish police. Needless to say this will prove hugely distracting.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

The first step will be a media campaign to discredit his character.The CIA wants to sow seeds of doubt. "Assange does good work, but, I don't know..he does act like a shit sometimes". The next step may be "allegations" that he uses wikileaks for extortion. The CIA is master of this stuff. Assange seems like is very streetwise and he does have allies.

The left should aggressively support him.

[Dimentio]

http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/assange-anhallan-havd-1.1157250

Apparently after he told media that he was going to turn himself in, the authorities have dropped the accusations.

[Chambered Word]

Lol at the WikiLeaks guy going around raping women, I don't know who would believe this for two seconds. :rolleyes:

[ComradeOm]

Swedish rape warrant for Wikileaks' Assange cancelled

Sweden has cancelled an arrest warrant for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange on accusations of rape and molestation.

The Swedish Prosecution Authority website said the chief prosecutor had come to the decision that Mr Assange was not suspected of rape but did not give any further explanation.

The warrant was issued late on Friday.

Wikileaks, which has been criticised for leaking Afghan war documents, had quoted Mr Assange as saying the charges were "without basis".

That message, which appeared on Twitter and was attributed directly to Mr Assange, said the appearance of the allegations "at this moment is deeply disturbing".

In a series of other messages posted on the Wikileaks Twitter feed, the whistle-blowing website said: "No-one here has been contacted by Swedish police", and that it had been warned to expect "dirty tricks".

In its "official blog" on Saturday before the warrant was cancelled, Wikileaks said it was "deeply concerned about the seriousness of these allegations. We the people behind Wikileaks think highly of Julian and and he has our full support".

The current whereabouts of Mr Assange, a 39-year-old Australian, are unclearFrom the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11049316)

[RED DAVE]

Just caught a report on AOL that the rape allegations against Assange are a result of a dirty trick.

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-with-rape-in-sweden/19602911?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww .aolnews.com%2Fnation%2Farticle%2Fwikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-with-rape-in-sweden%2F19602911 (http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-with-rape-in-sweden/19602911?icid=main%7Cmain%7Cdl1%7Clink3%7Chttp%3A% 2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fnation%2Farticle%2Fwikileak s-founder-julian-assange-charged-with-rape-in-sweden%2F19602911)

RED DAVE

[LETSFIGHTBACK]

How Typical. Personally, I thought they would have used the old "he is financially funding Terrorist organizations" tactic.

[~Spectre]

How Typical. Personally, I thought they would have used the old "he is financially funding Terrorist organizations" tactic.

It's all coming. I wonder the fury inside that U.S. government that they can't seem to touch these guys. If not for a stupid confession to a rat of a "journalist", they wouldn't even have the guy who leaked the first set of documents. Several years ago the U.S. government set out to destroy Wikileaks, as we now know from a leaked document on Wikileaks :laugh:. That they haven't been able to derail these people is quite inspiring. Even the most powerful state the world has ever seen can be beat.

[Mather]

Wow. Shame on me for thinking they'd be so old-fashioned to commit his suicide. Pretty clever on their part, actually. I'm still convinced that Mossad was involved.

More likely the CIA over Mossad.

I find both the Mossad and the CIA to be vile agents of oppression, lies, dirty tricks, murder, blackmail and every other trick in the book. Yet by the standards of bourgeois efficiency, Mossad are more competent and better at covering their tracks than the CIA, which has a habit of leaks, scandals, incompetence and fucking up. So I would think that this blatant and farcical story is yet another CIA fuck up, a fuck up because it's so obvious and next to no one is buying it.

[Red Commissar]

Well, if you look at the way the media has been directing this it really hasn't been a failure from their standpoint.

We got this leak of documents which provides proof to the belief that many were having- the war is not going well, and there has been a lot of civilian deaths hidden. As well as a number of other things concerning the Taliban's threat and the ISI.

There was immediate damage control from the defense department, shifting themselves from answering what the leaks show, to saying that wikileaks committed a breach of security and is putting lives at stake.

This angle the media took off with and for the most part many Americans bought- that this is endangering lives. People forgot what the content of the leaks was.

With this story, which we saw to be false, I just think is topping on top of this to commit some character assassinations. One day of the media talking about this is enough to further push people who were already angry with wikileaks for "endangering" lives to now be disgusted with them.

Though in the long run the first bit of damage-control did the most issue for wikileaks.

[DunyaGongrenKomRevolyutsi]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/online/wanted-by-the-cia-the-man-who-keeps-no-secrets-2029083.html

[Tatarin]

It's interesting to note that the papers get ahold of these stuff faster than even Wikileaks. :D

But this is obviously very shaky. As to why newspapers aren't scourging around the leaks is another strange mystery...

[Lenina Rosenweg]

A few months ago I read part of a CIA document on wikileaks about how the CIA has been planing to manipulate public opinion in France and Germany to drum up support for the US war in Afghanistan.Interestingly they seem to be doing the same thing now to discredit Assange.

They don't need much. The Murdoch empire will play along for little or no reward.A few stories endlessly recycled in British and Scandinavian sensationalist tabloids. Then Fox News. Then the hacks like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh will pick up the stories. Because of the "paranoid style of American politics" and the distrust much of the population rightfully feels towards politicians and the media, right wing allegations need no evidence at all.Part of Goebbels' propaganda technique, constant repetition, will come into play.

Most of the US population thinks Chavez is an "evil dictator". A third of the US population thinks "Obama is a Muslim".No evidence of these assertions is needed, just endless repetition.

A month from now we'll hear about the "viscous rapist and drug trafficker Assange, responsible for the death of our boys".Its been ridiculously easy to whip up hysteria about a mosque in New York. Assange will be cheesecake.

The second step will be to isolate him, politically and socially. Any legal or extra legal means possible will be used. They'll "do a Trotsky on him". He'll be on a "planet without a visa".The Mossad will finish the job. They're good lapdogs and don't care if its obvious.

A problem with Wikileaks is that the recent info is raw data. Its massive walls of text.The corporate media is pissed off because unlike in the era of the "Pentagon Papers" they didn't get to play gate keeper. There is a need for someone on the left to more fully digest and analyze the documents they have so it will have more of an effect. Do we know the details of how the ISI (and possibly the CIA and indirectly the US military) is funneling money to the Taliban? What do we know about the actual US plans for a Taliban coalition government?

[Dimentio]

Has someone copied those documents over from Wikileaks?

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

The charges have been dropped.

All very odd.

[progressive_lefty]

I'm waiting for when the CIA documents about slandering Julian Assange, get leaked on to WikiLeaks.

[Mather]

I'm waiting for when the CIA documents about slandering Julian Assange, get leaked on to WikiLeaks.


:laugh:

[Adi Shankara]

Anyone who doesn't see this for the half-baked plot to discredit Assange for what it is, is a fucking idiot. period. He doesn't seem like the type to randomly sexually assault two women for no reason when he is close to releasing another earth shattering report on the US government. but for one thing, it sure shows how weak the CIA has become.

[kefka]

I personally wouldn't advice anyone to jump to conclusions too quick.

It seems a quite reliable person on the swedish socialist community(socialism) may know who the victims are and claim that they wouldn't lie about such a thing.

Sex offenders do not always follow common logic and he wouldn't be the first man in power position to commit a sexual crime(if he's done it). Furthermore I wouldn't take the removal of the rape charge as evidence that he's innocent if you look at the small percentage of sexual crimes in Sweden that leads to some kind of conviction.

Due to my low post count i'm not allowed to link it directly but it's in the end page of the thread "aktuella nyheter".

[RED DAVE]

I personally wouldn't advice anyone to jump to conclusions too quick.

It seems a quite reliable person on the swedish socialist community(socialism) may know who the victims are and claim that they wouldn't lie about such a thing.

Sex offenders do not always follow common logic and he wouldn't be the first man in power position to commit a sexual crime(if he's done it). Furthermore I wouldn't take the removal of the rape charge as evidence that he's innocent if you look at the small percentage of sexual crimes in Sweden that leads to some kind of conviction.

Due to my low post count i'm not allowed to link it directly but it's in the end page of the thread "aktuella nyheter".Comrade, you show a distressing credibility. (1) The charges have been discredited and dropped. (2) Doesn't it strike you as odd that the charges exist in the first place?

RED DAVE

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

I personally wouldn't advice anyone to jump to conclusions too quick.

It seems a quite reliable person on the swedish socialist community(socialism) may know who the victims are and claim that they wouldn't lie about such a thing.

Sex offenders do not always follow common logic and he wouldn't be the first man in power position to commit a sexual crime(if he's done it). Furthermore I wouldn't take the removal of the rape charge as evidence that he's innocent if you look at the small percentage of sexual crimes in Sweden that leads to some kind of conviction.

Due to my low post count i'm not allowed to link it directly but it's in the end page of the thread "aktuella nyheter".

Socialism.nu is as socialist as a pig pen.

[Sasha]

thread title edited to reflect case more acurate

[kefka]

Comrade, you show a distressing credibility. (1) The charges have been discredited and dropped. (2) Doesn't it strike you as odd that the charges exist in the first place?

RED DAVE

1 Isn't that just the rape charge and not the sexual abuse charge?

When I last checked the bourgeoise media outlets that was the case and although they all are quite subjective I haven't heard otherwise from any other source except you.

2 Yes, It's indeed very odd when such a thing is reported at a period when the person accused is about to release information that could harm the US war machine and I do not claim that the person is a sexual offender even though I don't rule out the posibility that he's guilty.

It's also quite odd that they are publishing his name after the whole Littorin affair when all liberal news sources raged on Aftonbladet for publishing his name on similar grounds.

[Dimentio]

One of the females went out in an interview yesterday. She stated that it wasn't question about a rape, but that they originally had consentual sex. Then, he started to want to do things she didn't want to do.

[Obs]

One of the females went out in an interview yesterday. She stated that it wasn't question about a rape, but that they originally had consentual sex. Then, he started to want to do things she didn't want to do.
"Can I finger your butt?"
"RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!"

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

It's also quite odd that they are publishing his name after the whole Littorin affair when all liberal news sources raged on Aftonbladet for publishing his name on similar grounds.

Latrine-gate. Mr. Dynamic Housing Market is a dear friend of them of course, that's why. Might mess up their election scheduling.

Burn Ex-Pressen, Aftonhoran, Dagens Näringsliv, etc :closedeyes:

[Dimentio]

"Can I finger your butt?"
"RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!"

Tsk, tsk, don't be sexist now

As for it, the liberal newspapers are pretty openly fighting for the Alliance government. The reason why the Alliance will win though is that media have interpreted that the social democrats have moved to the left. And people - sadly - don't want left politics. They want centrism.

[Dimentio]

http://www.expressen.se/Nyheter/1.2106087/jouraklagaren-jo-anmald

The DA who set an arrest warrant on him has herself been subject to an investigation whether she abused her powers or not.

[mo7amEd]

The accusations seems ridiculous. Aftonbladet reported on it, but didn't (as far as I have seen) follow up on the fact that the accusations were dropped.

[Obs]

Tsk, tsk, don't be sexist now

As for it, the liberal newspapers are pretty openly fighting for the Alliance government. The reason why the Alliance will win though is that media have interpreted that the social democrats have moved to the left. And people - sadly - don't want left politics. They want centrism.
I wasn't trying to be sexist. I apologise if it seemed that way.

[Dimentio]

The accusations seems ridiculous. Aftonbladet reported on it, but didn't (as far as I have seen) follow up on the fact that the accusations were dropped.

Most Swedish newspapers have followed it up, including Aftonbladet which is the most Pro-Assange newspaper (Aftonbladet and DN Kultur have left-leaning editorials).

[Dimentio]

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/08/22/sweden.wikileaks.assange/index.html?hpt=T2#fbid=D4B9Mf8i0BT&wom=false

Now it starts to be interesting. Apparently, the Swedish prosecution did not leak his name to media.

I also liked this CNN comment:

chindoo He is a raper, a terrorist a burgular, a molester, a savage, a lier, a corporate espionage agent, a moslem, an ayatolah, a chinese, a communist, a spy, a wife beater, a child molester, a pedophile, an enemy combatant, an afgani, a crook a thief and a ninja.

[~Spectre]

Hopefully Swedish authorities don't take too kindly to being used in COINTELPRO: International edition.

[progressive_lefty]

The allegations still sound very very dodgy, I'm sure we will learn about them in the coming weeks.

It's seems so bizarre that a woman would claim to have consensual sex with him and then things went 'wrong', with the second woman claiming exactly the same thing. It sounds a lot like slander and libel, it doesn't seem to have any basis. And I'm not trying to harm the women that are accusing him.

It sounds like the technique might have been, let's get two women to sleep with him, and then have them make unsure allegations of rape/molestation. With the women unsure about whether it constitutes rape, so not leading to a prosecution of Assange, but leaving the allegations with it to destroy his reputation. There's no better way of destroying someone's reputation, then by alleging that he is a rapist or a molester. People have killed themselves over false allegations that have turned out to be lies. I remember there was a school teacher that committed suicide in NSW, Australia, who had been accused of molesting some students at his school, the allegations were false, and dropped by the victims.

[ckaihatsu]

New provocation against WikiLeaks

http://wsws.org/articles/2010/aug2010/pers-a23.shtml

[TiberiusGracchus]

Some posts are really disgusting! Sexual offenses are actually extremly common.

[synthesis]

How Typical. Personally, I thought they would have used the old "he is financially funding Terrorist organizations" tactic.

Moar like "funded by terrorist organizations"... amirite?

This was a particularly good offense with which to charge him, since there's no way to disprove it, at least in the public mind. You can even see it here, with some random people coming out of the woodwork to argue for the validity of the charges, thus shifting the nature of the debate. "Check," says the Illuminati. ;)

[synthesis]

Some posts are really disgusting! Sexual offenses are actually extremly common.



It seems a quite reliable person on the swedish socialist community(socialism) may know who the victims are and claim that they wouldn't lie about such a thing.

...awfully convenient timing, though.

[~Spectre]

Some posts are really disgusting! Sexual offenses are actually extremly common.

So are baseless allegations.

[theblackmask]

Looks like the case has been reopened. Anybody wanna take bets on how many times it goes back and forth?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100901/ap_on_re_eu/eu_sweden_wikileaks

[Dimentio]

It could go on for years.

[Obs]

It'll probably go on until Assange commits suicide by stabbing himself three times in the stomach.

[synthesis]

It'll probably go on until Assange commits suicide by stabbing himself three times in the stomach.

Yeah, now that I think about it, this would be a good set-up for that kind of thing.

[ckaihatsu]

---





What's far more promising in the present day are new developments in open-sourcing *information* that was developed with public funds but then kept secret from the public. You may be familiar with the WikiLeaks action -- possibly precedent-setting (I don't know) -- in which the public was *given back* some War-on-Afghanistan-related information that its funds had developed, in the form of a 1.4 gigabyte downloadable encrypted archive file.

So in essence the nationalist intelligence / security agencies' role became more "open-source", since WikiLeaks appealed to the U.S. government to cooperate in the selective protecting of sensitive information from the file, with the possibility of releasing the information verbatim to the public as a fall-back option simply by publishing the encryption key.

[ckaihatsu]

Swedish prosecutor re-opens “rape” case against WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange

By David Walsh
2 September 2010

http://wsws.org/articles/2010/sep2010/assa-s02.shtml

[progressive_lefty]

Seems like things have turned out the opposite to what some thought, including me. It seems like the accusers are of the left in Sweden, probably not the sort of people that would work with the CIA. Regardless, it appears as though Julian doesn't deny having sexual intercourse with them, which obviously influences my original skepticism about the allegations. So he can't argue he didn't know the women, who can only argue that he is not guilty of what he has been accused of.
There's a bit of talk about people within WikiLeaks wanting him to stand down.

[t.shonku]

Guys remember the movie “Enemy of the State” starring Will Smith. In that movie the NSA tries to frame Smith (Mr Dean as lawyer) of murder of his former girlfriend Rachel(Lisa Bonet) in order to destroy his credibility and reputation.Remember that famous quote in that movie



By Congressman Thomas Reynolds (Jon Voight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Voight)) in movie “Enemy of the State”

“You know what I’ve seen? I’ve seen killers walk free, because the eyewitness was an alcoholic. I’ve seen sex offenders that couldn’t be touched because the victim was a call girl. Credibility! It’s the only currency that means anything on this kind of playing field.”

“Dean’s got the tape and he’s going come out with it. And when he does, I want his credibility. I want people to know he’s lying before they hear what he says. . . . Put taps on his 20 most frequently called numbers and let’s get into his life. The union situation has mob written all over it. And he’s definitely vulnerable on Rachel Banks. I want to know about his wife, I want to know about his parents, I want to know about his gambling problems, his urine samples, his porno rentals. I want to use every means possible to get what we need. Because this little son of a b**** is not going to be the final chapter of my life.”


I think the US govt is trying to destroy Assange’s credibility by attacking his Character.They are trying to frame him

Sometimes truth becomes stranger than fiction.