right-wing tea party style movement emerging in quebec

[danyboy27]

Just heard that on my Local right-wing radio station, the bulks of rich right wing people in quebec are organising some kind of populist right wing movement.

i have been sad all day, watching this video more than once would make me probably sick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zylfzh8mdnI

the quebec freedom movement, or le mouvement de liberté du quebec.

for the first time in my life, i feel like i should really do something, this shit is scary has fuck.
http://www.quebec-freedom.ca/

[Rusty Shackleford]

can you explain more? i cant speak french ><

[danyboy27]

can you explain more? i cant speak french ><


i will try.

basicly, the video start with scary fact about the population getting older, and then they point out other scary fact, and then, the populist radio and tv host are heard, one of them telling that children are at risk of being brainwashed by unionised teatcher, other accuse the governement, and then you see pictures of ''protest'' organised by another radio station about the people being annoyed to pay taxes, and then you see comment made by the most famous right wing people of quebec, ''this is our movement'' ''finally a movement of right that will do something''


that pretty much it, i am now shaking has i type those words, shaking of a deep anger.

[Rusty Shackleford]

i will try.

basicly, the video start with scary fact about the population getting older, and then they point out other scary fact, and then, the populist radio and tv host are heard, one of them telling that children are at risk of being brainwashed by unionised teatcher, other accuse the governement, and then you see pictures of ''protest'' organised by another radio station about the people being annoyed to pay taxes, and then you see comment made by the most famous right wing people of quebec, ''this is our movement'' ''finally a movement of right that will do something''


that pretty much it, i am now shaking has i type those words, shaking of a deep anger.

holy shit. sounds a lot like the american right wing now.

[GPDP]

That sounds pretty bad. Of course, that shit's incredibly common here in the states, especially in a state like Texas where I live.

[RedScare]

Don't tell me the right wingers are taking over the Quebec independence movement. That would be just depressing.

[danyboy27]

holy shit. sounds a lot like the american right wing now.

i can hear a lot of the ''famous'' people who endorse this movement at my local radio station(people mentionned in the video), those people are batshit insane; tax break for the buisness, privatise the healthcare system, islamophobia, anti-immigration feeling, break the unions, it should be illegal to unionize, cut the welfare system etc etc.

all of this beccause of the incompetence and bureaucracy, they just dont really care about efficiency, for them, reegan must be a god.

[danyboy27]

Don't tell me the right wingers are taking over the Quebec independence movement. That would be just depressing.

nope, that a totally different movement. they are not seperatist.

[Salyut]

Lemme guess; they think Duplessis was awesome?

[Dimentio]

i will try.

basicly, the video start with scary fact about the population getting older, and then they point out other scary fact, and then, the populist radio and tv host are heard, one of them telling that children are at risk of being brainwashed by unionised teatcher, other accuse the governement, and then you see pictures of ''protest'' organised by another radio station about the people being annoyed to pay taxes, and then you see comment made by the most famous right wing people of quebec, ''this is our movement'' ''finally a movement of right that will do something''


that pretty much it, i am now shaking has i type those words, shaking of a deep anger.

Doesn't sound too menacing. While Québec in general is conservative-leaning, I doubt the population there generally is stupid enough to support a tea party-like movement.

[Salyut]

I doubt the population there generally is stupid enough to support a tea party-like movement.

I think the closest thing we ever had to the "tea party" movement was the Reform Party.

edit: Unless you want to bring in things like APEC ("THE QUEBECOIS ARE TAKING OVER OH GOD SAVE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE").

[danyboy27]

Doesn't sound too menacing. While Québec in general is conservative-leaning, I doubt the population there generally is stupid enough to support a tea party-like movement.

with a stupid governement like that and a avearge 7 hour of waiting at the emergency room, people will join this horrible shit.

[ZombieGrits]

so what are the organisation's goals? basically the same as the tea party? or, judging by what you said earlier, do they care more about social instead of fiscal stuff?

I don't know french either, cant understand any of the shit on their facebook page :ninja:

[Raúl Duke]

and a avearge 7 hour of waiting at the emergency roomI don't see why the right always use this as an argument over public health care...

I once waited almost a whole afternoon at a US private hospital.

On the issue, I'm sad to hear it that a ugly right-wing movement is forming in Quebec.
Although I can hope that they stay small and ineffectual.

[Stephen Colbert]

fuck.

[Die Neue Zeit]

They're just frustrated that Action Democratique has tumbled so much.

[danyboy27]

They're just frustrated that Action Democratique has tumbled so much.

believe me, those people are way more pissed than the action democratic, and verry populist.

[Die Neue Zeit]

Yeah, and their political ideology allows them to more openly rant against, to quote Jacques Parizeau, "money and the ethnic vote" without getting called out on it by the media. Remember that line?

[LETSFIGHTBACK]

I don't see why the right always use this as an argument over public health care...

I once waited almost a whole afternoon at a US private hospital.

On the issue, I'm sad to hear it that a ugly right-wing movement is forming in Quebec.
Although I can hope that they stay small and ineffectual.


I, 3 months ago, had a cyst that was infected, I called a dermatologist, I had to wait 3 months for an appointment.I called Thomas Jefferson University Hospital Dermatology Dept, they said, get this, THEY DID NOT ACCEPT CASH OR CREDIT CARDS LOL LOL , only insurance.

As far as the Tea Party, it's just another example of America exporting their stupidity.

[Charles Xavier]

It doesn't seem that popular.

[danyboy27]

It doesn't seem that popular.

beccause it was started only a fews day ago.

they are already a fews big rich conservative who are member.

[leftace53]

gens fous. crazy people.

At the end of the video, one of the blue texts says something about how this march is for people who are not satisfied with the status quo. How are the right wings not satisfied by the status quo? What do the right wing need to march for (other than exercise)?

[danyboy27]

gens fous. crazy people.

At the end of the video, one of the blue texts says something about how this march is for people who are not satisfied with the status quo. How are the right wings not satisfied by the status quo? What do the right wing need to march for (other than exercise)?

well, our current governement (and previous) did a wonderful job at screwing up social program, and their strategy always was to rise taxes, create complicated laws who advantaged big buisness and made the life of small entrepreneur harder.

the only ones who really benefit from the current system are the politician and the uber rich, middle class bourgeois, small time buisness and other lower class suffer a great deal from the current order of things.

That why those right wing folks created a movement, to make their middle class, bourgeois, small buisness voices heard.

what most of these people want? less taxes, less services, more privatisation, more money so they can choose for what they want, dismantling the unions. that sort of things.

they want me to pay more for my bus pass, and more money put into highway, they want the minimum wage lowered/ended so i would be stuck in a stupid badly paid job forever, and they can make more money beccause of the skill they been able to learn beccause they had money than me, they want privatized healthcare so they can pay for a service while i will be forced to make a loan to get a annual checkup.

i hate those peoples.

[Mather]

That why those right wing folks created a movement, to make their middle class, bourgeois, small buisness voices heard.


You have hit the nail on the head, reactionary views and radical right-wing 'populist' movements like the Tea Party find their support at its most highest, most active and most vocal amongst the petty-bourgeoisie and those in the middle management of the capitalist system. Rich enough and powerful enough to still feel they are a part of the capitalist system and are thus very loyal to it, yet never rich and powerful enough to reach the top, hence their bigotry and hate are spewed towards the working class and those who are at the bottom of society, towards those not powerful enough to fight back, as they feel that these people are at fault for their position, as opposed to blaming the capitalist system itself.

So while the Tea Party and this Quebec 'Freedom' Movement have rich donors and powerful backers, their foot soldiers marching in the streets and at demonstrations will be made up of the petty-bourgeoisie and the middle management middle classes.

[Mather]

I think the closest thing we ever had to the "tea party" movement was the Reform Party.



In 2003 the Reform Party merged with others to become the now ruling Conservative Party of Canada (CPC) under Stephen Harper.

Much like how the Republican Party has astroturfed the Tea Party in the US, the Quebec 'Freedom' Movement could be a copycat tactic by the CPC to astroturf popular support towards them, especially given that the CPC is mainly popular amongst Anglo-Canadians in the western part of Canada, thus this could be a way to try and pick up support for the CPC in Quebec, which has a long tradition of having it's own French speaking parties.

[Salyut]

In 2003 the Reform Party merged with others to become the now ruling Conservative Party of Canada (CPC) under Stephen Harper.

Much like how the Republican Party has astroturfed the Tea Party in the US, the Quebec 'Freedom' Movement could be a copycat tactic by the CPC to astroturf popular support towards them, especially given that the CPC is mainly popular amongst Anglo-Canadians in the western part of Canada, thus this could be a way to try and pick up support for the CPC in Quebec, which has a long tradition of having it's own French speaking parties.

I know :p .

My mom worked for the Reform/Alliance/CPC until about two years ago. The Reform party was a lot more out and out right wing then the successor groups.