Universal progressive opinion and ethical conservatism can unite on a few issues

[Conquer or Die]

The first being subsidies for home ownership. It's a fat buyoff for many middle class who are more often than not class collaborationist. Rednecks, college students, immigrant workers, and the homeless don't get a fat paycheck for owning unnecessary shit. Ethical conservatives that compose the 0.01% of legitimacy for the movement would also agree. I feel that this is a move that can be implemented to cull so much federal fat there would be a field day on Fox News. The only option is where to put the money - and this is where the majority of conservatives will have to be stimied or eliminated because they'll throw the money into the police, military, or other corporate subsidies. I think half the money will have to be put into debt relief for political purposes and the other half can be justified via the elimination of several substantial sales taxes. The middle class will take a hit, but this will slow down the corporate extravagance and consumerism of America and the elimination of the sales tax will eliminate the potential tyranny of the marginalist fairtax schemes which seek to justify itself in taxing the fulfillment of human needs versus the appropriate choice of taxing the true source of value - labor.

I think it's a trojan horse that socialists should consider. 230 billion in federal funds each year goes to the middle class buyoff via the ruling class.

We can secondarily propose some sort of government operated green speed train system. This will drastically increase the movement of freight across the country and set a good standard for the transportation industry - operating on zero profit motive but maximum efficiency output.

We should also consider a nuanced approach to the drug wars. We legalize weed. We then match the penalty for cocaine and crack usage, but we match this formerly racist and classist law by moving upwards. We move up the cocaine penalty to the crack penalty. In doing so we equalize the law, thus its sole legitimacy, and we also indicate that we are interested in regulating drugs - conservatives can't dance around it. In the process of this law's enactment I imagine many a politician and ceo son and daughter will be harassed and locked in jail ruining their political and social capital, a fine culling of the ruling class's heirs.

In addition to that maybe we can implement a progressive penalty tax for violations of drug laws. People who have their lives ruined by drugs will get more treatment options and support based on income discrepancy penalties. Authoritarian social justice.

Create a terrorist-drug cartel screening process for illegal immigrants and hand out amnesty en masse so they can pay taxes. More government money, more justice. La Constitucion de Los Estados Unidos en Espanol por favor.

That's all I got, suggestions?

[RGacky3]

I think progressives trying to reach out to conservatives, and by conservatives I mean the establishment conservatives, and the conservative talking points is stupid and counter productive, the Obama doctrine of unilateral disarmament to try and get bipartisenship is pointless.

Conservatives, Fox news, the GOP, DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BUDGET, if they did they would talk about cutting military spending and reinstituting tax cuts on the rich and raising them on capital gains, but they dont', so trying to cater to their deficit talking points is pointless, they won't be happy unless it hurts the poor and benefits the rich.

real progressives have stopped trying to work with the right wing, and instead, intelligently, fought them, you fight them hard enough your gonna get some switching.

Heres what I say, Single payer health care, Obama promised it, and did'nt even fight for it, my advice to American progressives was to not let it go, and call out the right wing for what they are, a wholey owned subsidiary of corporate America. Thats what I like about people like Bernie Sanders, Anthony wiener, Al Frankin and Alan Grayson, they don't sit down and take it from the right wing, they attack, and attack. Thats what progressives need to do, they need to leave the Obama doctrine, the new Democrat doctrine, and actualy respond to their base.

As a whole I don't think the democrats will do that, because many of them are corporatists, Obama is a corporatist, you know why he did'nt follow up on his promise on healthcare and financial reform? Not because he could'nt, because he did'nt want to, because he has class interests.

But I'm telling you, progressives tyring to compromise with the right wing is a fools errand, its has'nt worked, it won't work, for the progressives in government that are still progressive and hav'nt been bought by corporate ineterests, the strategy should be attack and attack and let the other side beg for a deal.