TKP/ML and PKK joint action

[scarletghoul]

HPG ve TKP-ML TİKKO'dan ortak eylem

ANF
13:56 / 14 Auğustos 2010
BEHDİNAN - Dersim’de TKP-ML ve HPG gerillaları Amutka karakoluna askeri malzeme taşıyan bir aracı hedefledi. Bu eylemin KCK’nin ilan ettiği eylemsizlik kararından önce gerçekleştiği bildirildi.

Dersim’in Hozat ilçesinde bulunan Amutka karakoluna askeri malzeme taşıyan bir aracı durduran gerillalar aracı yaktı. Konuyla ilgili açıklamada bulunan HPG Basın-İrtibat Merkezi eylemin 13 Ağustos günü gerçekleştiğini belirterek, eylemde ayrıca bazı askeri malzemelere de el konulduğunu bildirdi.

KARAKOL KOMUTAN YARDIMCISININ SİCİLİ DE ELE GEÇİRİLDİ

Gerillaların Hozat’a bağlı Dereköy mevkiinde durdurulan araçta bulunan bir termal kamera, kameraya ait şarj makinesi ve karakol komutan yardımcısı uzman çavuşun siciline de el koyduğu belirtildi.

TKP-ML TİKKO ve HPG gerillalarının ortak düzenledikleri eylem ardından Türk ordusunun saat 17.00 sularında kobra desteğinde bir operasyon başlattığı ve 2 saat sonra operasyona gelen askerlerin skorskylerle götürüldüğü kaydedildi.

ÇUKURCA’DA 2 ASKER ÖLDÜRÜLDÜ

Öte yandan Hakkari Çukurca’da bulunan Kunmêrê tepesine gerillaların düzenlediği eylemde iki askerin öldüğü bildirildi. HPG-BİM açıklamasına göre eylem 11 ağustos günü gerçekleştirildi. Eylemde Türk ordusunun kayıplarının daha fazla olabileceği de vurgulandı.

Açıklamada ayrıca Türk ordusunun eylemden sonra 4 saat boyunca eylem alanı yakınlarında bulunan köyleri obüs ve havanlarla bombaladığı belirtildi.

HAFTANİN’E TOP SALDIRISI

Açıklamada Haftanin’in Gıre PAK alanına yönelik olarak da 13 Ağustos günü saat 17.00 ile 20.00 saatleri arasında obüs saldırısı gerçekleştirildiği bilgisi de verilirken, saldırı ardından başlayan yangının yapılan müdahale ardından sabaha doğru söndürüldüğü ifade edildi.

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(HPG is the armed wing of PKK). This was a few days ago. It's very interesting to see these groups act together.



Google Translate is not that great for Turkish. From what I can make out they attacked some vehicles and confiscated military equipment, but I am not sure what the later paragraphs are about, they mention 2 dead soldiers and howitzers and stuff... Are there any Turkish-speaking comrades who could offer a better translation ?


TKP-ML TİKKO'dan HPG and joint action
ANF
13:56 / 14 Augustos 2010

BEHDİNAN - Dersim HPG guerrillas Amutka TKP-ML and a vehicle carrying military equipment to the police station was targeted. KCK'nin declared that such action is inaction place before the decision was announced.

Amutka Hozat Dersim district police station in a vehicle carrying military equipment to stop the guerrillas burned the vehicle. Relevant in explaining the HPG Press Contact Center stated that the action took place on August 13, the action also said some military equipment was also confiscated.

DE KARAKOL deputy commander of the record was captured

Guerrillas stopped cars in the neighborhood of Hozat Dereköy connected to a thermal camera, camera charger, and the deputy commander of the police station to register the confiscation of sergeant said.

TKP-ML TİKKO HPG guerrillas and organize joint action after the Turkish army launched an operation in support cobra around 17:00 hours and two hours after the operation, the soldiers were taken skorskylerle were recorded.

Two soldiers were killed in Cukurca

Kunmêrê Cukurca in Hakkari province on the other hand on top of the guerrilla organization of the two soldiers killed in action was reported. HPG-BIM based description of the action took place on 11 August. Actions of the Turkish army's losses were to be more stressed.

Also in explaining the actions of Turkish military action after four hours near the field howitzers and mortars bombarded the villages said.

TOP HAFTANİN'E ATTACK

Haftanin'in explanation for entering the field as PAK 17.00 and 20.00 hours on August 13 attack was carried out between the howitzers are also given information on the attack began after the morning after the intervention of the fire was put out statements were true.

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[black magick hustla]

mexicans drug paramilitaries kill cops and soldiers all the time soon mexico will be aztec socialist peoples republic

[The Vegan Marxist]

I don't trust the PKK. They've turned into opportunists. Word is that they're doing deals with the US in order to allow the MKO into Iran's northwestern border.

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=135594&sectionid=351020101

[freepalestine]

I don't trust the PKK. They've turned into opportunists. Word is that they're doing deals with the US in order to allow the MKO into Iran's northwestern border.

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=135594&sectionid=351020101
in all fairness,you shouldnt believe anything from presstv.

[scarletghoul]

1. Iranian government accuses 2 of its enemies of working together. dun dun duuuuun
2. Even if it was true, that's a ridiculous reason the reject the PKK completely. Kurdish people are among the most oppressed in the world and the PKK fights for them. That far far far outweighs any tactical cooperation they might make with US (which if it exists is only that; its not like the US is endorsing them). It's commonplace for forces to play their enemies against each other. Call it 'opportunism' if you want, but theres nothing inherently wrong with it.

Seriously I don't understand why you think an Iranian government claim of tactical cooperation with one enemy against another outweighs the much more important struggle of the Kurds for freedom.. You seem to be looking at it from a super puritan one dimensional view..

[Devrim]

in all fairness,you shouldnt believe anything from presstv.


1. Iranian government accuses 2 of its enemies of working together. dun dun duuuuun


Don't you just love it how when some groups somebody supports is linked to something dodgy. It is all bourgeois lies.

I don't know the details about what is referred to here, but the PKK, prior to Obama's election was moving closer to the US.

Certainly PJAK was armed by the US, and the Turkish government was consistently criticising the US for arming the PKK.

Their courting of the US was something that is no secret and is well documented in the public domain:


We obviously cannot topple the government with the ammunition and the weapons we have now. Any financial or military help that would speed the path to a true Iranian democracy, we would very much welcome, particularly from the United States."


If the US is interested in PJAK, then it has to be interested in the PKK as well

US journalist Seymour Hirsch goes further and suggests that the PKK is being armed by the Israelis:


Another critical issue for Gates will be the Pentagon’s expanding effort to conduct clandestine and covert intelligence missions overseas. Such activity has traditionally been the C.I.A.’s responsibility, but, as the result of a systematic push by Rumsfeld, military covert actions have been substantially increased. In the past six months, Israel and the United States have also been working together in support of a Kurdish resistance group known as the Party for Free Life in Kurdistan. The group has been conducting clandestine cross-border forays into Iran, I was told by a government consultant with close ties to the Pentagon civilian leadership, as “part of an effort to explore alternative means of applying pressure on Iran.” (The Pentagon has established covert relationships with Kurdish, Azeri, and Baluchi tribesmen, and has encouraged their efforts to undermine the regime’s authority in northern and southeastern Iran.) The government consultant said that Israel is giving the Kurdish group “equipment and training.” The group has also been given “a list of targets inside Iran of interest to the U.S.” (An Israeli government spokesman denied that Israel was involved.)


Devrim

[The Vegan Marxist]

^ Not to mention the US is threatening the Turkish government on arms sales because they want to attack the PKK.

http://redantliberationarmy.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/us-threat-on-turkey-arms-sales/

[freepalestine]

Don't you just love it how when some groups somebody supports is linked to something dodgy. It is all bourgeois lies. I don't know the details about what is referred to here, but the PKK, prior to Obama's election was moving closer to the US.
i was making a point about presstv.although what you said about pkk in iran and turkey is nothing new.the brits had been supporting the ahwaziarabs in sw iran since the 80s on and off.80% of irans oil is there apparently

[Devrim]

i was making a point about presstv.although what you said about pkk in iran and turkey is nothing new.the brits had been supporting the ahwaziarabs in sw iran since the 80s on and off.80% of irans oil is there apparently

I think that there is an important point here. There is a tendency of national liberation movements to become the tools of major and regional powers. The Kurdish movement is a case in point. Kurdish nationalist groups have been supported both the two major powers of the past, USA and USSR, and all of the regional players, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Israel.

I think there are very few nationalist movements if any, which avoid this.

Devrim

[Tablo]

When their minds are set on National liberation I don't see why they would care who is helping them as long as it helps their goal. Not saying collaborating with imperialist superpowers is good or anything.

[rido01]

PKK is real complicated situation in Turkey. They are in war with Turkey for almost 30 years and sadly it seems the war will not stop soon.
TKP/ML(Marxist-Leninist Turkey Communist Party) is a different organization and they are with PKK in most of their thoughts.
The real question is that is PKK still Marxist?
When PKK first appeared in their manifest they claim they are Marxist. After the Soviets gone they bring new face to them;national freedom movement. PKK's leader Öcalan now claims that he is over Marxism and he says he is not Marxist anymore.
About the U.S thing i don't believe they are supporting PKK. But PKK is ready to do anything if they manage to succes...Even making relations with imperialists..