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Forward Union
16th August 2010, 13:29
How would you go about forging historical documents. What I mean is that, it surprises me that things like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Veles) can be disputable given our modern abilities at carbon dating amongst other methods.
Presumably forging historical documents would be harder than just carving any old plausible shit into a plank of rotten wood and saying I bought it at a second hand shop for 50p, sending it to a museum and finding out it's evidence that the Celts invented electricity.
Take the Book of Veles that I have already linked to, isn't that essentially what has happened? Can people with more scientific knowledge comment on the ins and outs of this?
Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
16th August 2010, 13:41
How would you go about forging historical documents. What I mean is that, it surprises me that things like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Veles) can be disputable given our modern abilities at carbon dating amongst other methods.
Presumably forging historical documents would be harder than just carving any old plausible shit into a plank of rotten wood and saying I bought it at a second hand shop for 50p, sending it to a museum and finding out it's evidence that the Celts invented electricity.
Take the Book of Veles that I have already linked to, isn't that essentially what has happened? Can people with more scientific knowledge comment on the ins and outs of this?
Carbon dating isn't very accurate.
ComradeOm
16th August 2010, 14:34
Take the Book of Veles that I have already linked to, isn't that essentially what has happened?AFAIK carbon dating was not available before the 'Book' was lost during the 1940s. In other cases, such as the Turin Shroud, testing has proven that they were fakes only to come under sustained nitpicking from religious lobbies
The latter being is somewhat understandable given that the Catholic Church has past form (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation_of_Constantine) when it comes to forgeries. It used to be standard practice that whenever the Pope needed an excuse or justification for an action, a document legitimising this would be conveniently discovered in the Vatican archives
devoration1
24th August 2010, 21:45
There's actually a lot about the book in the Fascist/neo-Nazi apologist Coogan's book, "Dreamer Of The Day," about Yockey.
However, it sounds like you mean antiquites rather than forged documents. When I first clicked on this thread, I thought you meant old forgerd documents like the 'Zinoviev Letters' that made a splash in the British bourgeois press (and were blatant forgeries and lies).
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