Job for a cowboy

[incogweedo]

Great metal (deathcore) band. anyone agree?

Ftvkeomgv_c

[The Vegan Marxist]

Agreed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVVKNQpJLgI

[leftace53]

Ugh, while I generally dislike Job For, I will agree that they some decent drum riffs. I like them better in studio than live.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Terrible. Metal isn't meant to be boring, and that is exactly what deathcore is.

[Qayin]

JFAC is shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHjzlYKnER8





Our country is a weapon of mass destruction.
Religion is a weapon of mass destruction.
Greed is a weapon of mass destruction.
Fear is a weapon of mass destruction.
Hatred is a weapon of mass destruction.
Apathy is a weapon of mass destruction.
You are a weapon of mass destruction.
I am a weapon of mass destruction.

[incogweedo]

JFAC is shit



AHH HELL NO

But, i have to give you some respect, elysia is pretty sick also :D

[The Douche]

Deathcore nerds need to die.

[incogweedo]

Deathcore nerds need to die.



and why is this?

[Nuvem]

If you're going to listen to bourgeois musicians, at least listen to talented bourgeois musicians.

[Chimurenga.]

Shit like this is why I hate metal.

[BuddhaInBabylon]

napalm death

[incogweedo]

If you're going to listen to bourgeois musicians, at least listen to talented bourgeois musicians.

"bourgeois musicians", lol what makes them bourgeois musicians? Did you do extensive research just to find out if they are in fact bourgeois musicians? and please tell me why it even matters :laugh:

[The Douche]

and why is this?

Cause I don't like it and I consider it to be a perversion of music that I do like.

[Qayin]

Cause I don't like it and I consider it to be a perversion of music that I do like.
Oh I get it your one of those purist types.
I better go delete my hardcore, cant like anything else apparently.

[The Douche]

Oh I get it your one of those purist types.
I better go delete my hardcore, cant like anything else apparently.

Dude, I posted in the skramz thread. I also like thrash, powerviolence, crust, punk, ska, reggae, britpop and all kinds of other stuff.

Sorry I am not into scene kid grindcore and deathmetal.

[Qayin]

There are a few deathcore bands that are enjoyable. Elysia, Animosity, Knights of the Abyss(Local), Misericordiam, and a few others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7jmZRcLXFo


Decaying Waste Lyrics

If words are lethal weapons you've run out of ammo
its the same old fucking same old
you need to calibrate to a new debate
the era of the police state
take a stand against the man
force fed lies down through your throat
until you choke on those words that you greedily spoke
a generation of blinded men
following every trend
their ignorance is beyond my own comprehension
the pressure wont stop chaotic tension
what are you living for if you cant speak your mind
don't be the one left behind
the decaying waste of mankind
two eyes you're still fucking blind
GET FUCKED
use your voice you have the choice
neutral will be the first to die, asking why
corrupt leaders of the masses
separating them into classes
rich or poor we all want more
if talk is cheap then the voiceless are cheap whores
sacrifice!
refuse to use all force-fed lies
once a mindless slave
but buried fear into the grave
reload your words
don't follow the herd
a call to action we will be heard
a rock through every fuckers window
I rise like a crescendo
apathy has a placebo affect
I'll disconnect your head from your neck
you don't use it you fucking piece of shit
you make me fucking sick!




Scene shits like Bring Me the Horizon(Hair Straightener), Job For A Cowboy, and fucking The Irish Front...all terrible.

[The Douche]

I don't really like shit like that. And I know there are kids who are not scene that are into deathcore (I have friends in a deathcore band) but I also don't really like death metal, or tough guy hardcore. So that shit really has nothing for me, and the scene is in large ways dominated by scene kids and/or wannabe tough guys.

As for what they listen to vs. "legit deathcore", this is a JFAC thread, bro.;)

[Widerstand]

Scene shits like Bring Me the Horizon(Hair Straightener)

Bring me the horizon is pretty much the only Deathcore band I ever found enjoyable ;s it's so damn catchy.

[Ele'ill]

Fucking Ugh

[Qayin]

I don't really like shit like that. And I know there are kids who are not scene that are into deathcore (I have friends in a deathcore band) but I also don't really like death metal, or tough guy hardcore. So that shit really has nothing for me, and the scene is in large ways dominated by scene kids and/or wannabe tough guys.

I can find truth in that, even in the Hardcore scene theirs a lot of tough guys.
I listen to more hardcore then deathcore.
Im a huge Effort fan


Bring me the horizon is pretty much the only Deathcore band I ever found enjoyable ;s it's so damn catchy.
NO

[PilesOfDeadNazis]

CHUGCHUGCHUGCHUGCHUGCHUGCHUGCHUGCHUG*crash*CHUGCHU GCHUGCHUG

No.

[The Douche]

I can find truth in that, even in the Hardcore scene theirs a lot of tough guys.
I listen to more hardcore then deathcore.
Im a huge Effort fan


NO

But bands like the effort (who are awesome, as a band and as dudes) don't really draw that "tough guy" crowd. Thats for bands like Tyrant and bullshit on seventh dagger records.

Some people would probably consider me a "tough guy", I have "stay negi" tattooed on my knuckles, I get into fights/bully people sometimes, I crowd punch and stage dive feet first/head walk. But I don't do that stuff cause I think its "tough" its just what I do.

[Widerstand]

NO

Name a better deathcore band. You can't, they are all shitty, but BMTH is catchy and Oli Sykes is cute as heck and he actually played a full set for us when he was sick and ran off stage pucking after. <3


I can find truth in that, even in the Hardcore scene theirs a lot of tough guys.
I listen to more hardcore then deathcore.
Im a huge Effort fan


But bands like the effort (who are awesome, as a band and as dudes) don't really draw that "tough guy" crowd. Thats for bands like Tyrant and bullshit on seventh dagger records.

Some people would probably consider me a "tough guy", I have "stay negi" tattooed on my knuckles, I get into fights/bully people sometimes, I crowd punch and stage dive feet first/head walk. But I don't do that stuff cause I think its "tough" its just what I do.

Eh what? I lump The Effort in the same box with Have Heart and all the other Straight Edge Tough Guy xNIETZSCHEREVIVALSTRENGTHOFMINDx bands. o.o

Or was The Effort the band that everyone who liked Comeback Kid before they became the new Rise Against likes now?

[Qayin]

But bands like the effort (who are awesome, as a band and as dudes) don't really draw that "tough guy" crowd. Thats for bands like Tyrant and bullshit on seventh dagger records.
Wrong context, I just mean I love that fucking band. One of my favorite hardcore bands. I love Have Heart and I dig Comeback Kid. There not on the same levels though The Effort are way more socio-political, and generally help me reflect on my lifes situations.

[Widerstand]

Wrong context, I just mean I love that fucking band. One of my favorite hardcore bands. I love Have Heart and I dig Comeback Kid. There not on the same levels though The Effort are way more socio-political, and generally help me reflect on my lifes situations.

Interesting enough, Comeback Kid was one of the bands that really got me from Metalcore to Hardcore Punk (along with Empty Vision, who are fucking awesome, but defunct, sadly). Have Heart is what got me back into Hardcore Punk after I quit it during a small 60s/70s rock and metal phase. I still listen to Comeback Kid, but I don't like Have Heart anymore. I pretty much stepped away from the Youth Crew'ish bands, except Youth Of Today and Gorilla Biscuits. I really don't like the attitude they express and attract =/

I think I listened to The Effort a while back. Hm. Last.fm keeps suggesting it, but it's really not the style of HC I dig currently, from what I remember of it.

As far as life-situation reflection goes, nothing beats Touche Amore, More Than Life and La Dispute for me ~~

[Rusty Shackleford]

superior music exists in this post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlIx7ScKaSQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4OawzSoxMM&feature=related


imo, any form of metal with a "core" as the defining part of their genre tends to be meh.

[Apoi_Viitor]

imo, any form of metal with a "core" as the defining part of their genre tends to be meh.

CONVERGE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj2F2QfbAyM

EXTREME NOISE TERROR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j6bhMWIfkg

OLD MAN GLOOM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHs4oXZpj0A

SNORAS - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RkgxIEieNg

ED GEIN - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpP9a2B4V-k

[Widerstand]

imo, any form of metal with a "core" as the defining part of their genre tends to be meh.

Most if not all genres are made up of a majority of shitty artists. This is true for metalcore, deathcore, mathcore the same as it is for hardcore punk, death metal, thrash metal, folk, jazz, etc. The difference is, that in some genres the crappier artists are more popular, while in others the good artists are.

[Rusty Shackleford]

CONVERGE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj2F2QfbAyM

EXTREME NOISE TERROR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j6bhMWIfkg

OLD MAN GLOOM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHs4oXZpj0A

SNORAS - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RkgxIEieNg

ED GEIN - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpP9a2B4V-k
like i said, meh. its tolerable, but i dunno. it just doesnt get me pumped up like other stuff.

[The Douche]

Eh what? I lump The Effort in the same box with Have Heart and all the other Straight Edge Tough Guy xNIETZSCHEREVIVALSTRENGTHOFMINDx bands. o.o

When I say tough guy I'm talking about the "camo shorts/flat bill hat/brass knuckle/urban" type stuff, like terror on crack. (I like terror, but they are in a large way responsible for bands like fight everyone) As opposed to the "fade haircut/baseball shirt/varsity jacket/bro" type stuff, like youth crew.

Some people I've met from elsewhere in the country/world refer to the youth crew thing as "tough guy". Its weird to me, when I think of tough guy I think of this:

DAunDUqIGFM

not this:

sbwaIout0R4

[NoOneIsIllegal]

La Dispute
I don't get what the big deal is about them. They're better recorded than live, that's for sure. The last show I saw them at, Jordan (vocalist) kept breathing extremely heavy on the mic. He was kinda shady when I met him a few years ago. Oh well. Not to be a dick, just rambling...

On topic: I still hate deathcore, and totally prefer this Wintersun I'm listening to! I saw JFAC live back in 2006, and they were boring. The other bands at the show ruled, like Misery Index :thumbup1: Everyone else wasnt into them... damn hipsters.

[Apoi_Viitor]

I don't get what the big deal is about them.

I completely agree. They sound like a bland/emotionless version of Saetia.

[Widerstand]

When I say tough guy I'm talking about the "camo shorts/flat bill hat/brass knuckle/urban" type stuff, like terror on crack. (I like terror, but they are in a large way responsible for bands like fight everyone) As opposed to the "fade haircut/baseball shirt/varsity jacket/bro" type stuff, like youth crew.

Some people I've met from elsewhere in the country/world refer to the youth crew thing as "tough guy". Its weird to me, when I think of tough guy I think of this:

DAunDUqIGFM

not this:

sbwaIout0R4

Eh... well, there's not so much difference between the two crowds in Germany. Except that sXe'rs are too elitist to listen to stuff like Hatebreed or Terror, at times.


I don't get what the big deal is about them. They're better recorded than live, that's for sure. The last show I saw them at, Jordan (vocalist) kept breathing extremely heavy on the mic. He was kinda shady when I met him a few years ago. Oh well. Not to be a dick, just rambling...

I thought they sounded exactly like on the records when I saw them live - and Jordan does breathe quite noise on some parts of the records - it sounds sort of whiny, which greatly adds to the somewhat despaired feeling some songs have. What I found somewhat disappointing about their live show was that the crowd didn't really do anything, but well, they had a damn shitty timeslot.

Anyway, La Dispute are fucking awesome. Their lyrics, the continuous symbolism on Somewhere..., the foreshadowing of their musical development through the Here, Hear EP series. Their artwork is pretty great, and self-made. And their politics are pretty neat too. Afaik, they are involved in a bunch of local projects (they donated money from EP sales to homelessness projects, too). They have some sociopolitical issues on their blog every now and then, and seem to have a rather system-critical stance in general:

our educational system tells us
that we can all be
big winners

it hasn't told us
about the gutters
or the suicides.

- Five, off Here, Hear II

And I remember in a basement sharing sweat
With all these stranger boys and girls,
“We’ll change the world!” We sang,
“We’ll change the world!” But,
Nothing seems to change and
They say none of them will listen,
But I still see much more power in that basement than in elected politicians.

- Nine, off Here, Hear III

Also, fucking Solidarity everywhere in The Castle Builders:

So build a home for your family, and
Build a castle for your friends, now
Set their beds with sheets and blankets,
Keep them safe until the end.
I’ve felt the damage and burn from the fallout,
My love failed but theirs prevailed,
My friends, I’m only flesh and bone but
I won’t let you die alone.

So leave our hearts at the foot of the mountain.
Let our burdens be locked in the stone.
If you will help me roll it upward
I won’t let you die alone.

I see a beauty springing upward from the earth and from out our hearts.
For all the bad that seems to plague us, I swear to you there’s good.


The other bands at the show ruled, like Misery Index :thumbup1: Everyone else wasnt into them... damn hipsters.

I prefer Misery Signals.


I completely agree. They sound like a bland/emotionless version of Saetia.

Dude. No seriously. How the hell did you manage to connect JFAC and Saetia? What has science done?

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Dude. No seriously. How the hell did you manage to connect JFAC and Saetia? What has science done?
I'm sure he was talking about La Dispute and Saetia.

As for La Dispute, my feelings for them still stand, but I kind of enjoyed a few songs I have heard from their Vancouver album. I guess it depends on the mood I'm in :lol:

[Widerstand]

I'm sure he was talking about La Dispute and Saetia.

Oh wow I failed hard at reading comprehension...

[The Douche]

Eh... well, there's not so much difference between the two crowds in Germany. Except that sXe'rs are too elitist to listen to stuff like Hatebreed or Terror, at times.


Around here the two popular things are powerviolence and reviving 90s tough guy (which I like, much more than current tough guy), like blood for blood/agnostic front/one life crew. And all the local hardcore bands have members who are edge and not edge, and they all played my birthday show which was a keg party.

But I'm suprised to see you say there isn't much difference in the scenes there, I was under the impression that northern europe had a vibrant posi/youth crew scene.

[Widerstand]

had a vibrant posi/youth crew scene.

Maybe I didn't phrase myself correctly: I can't see many people which are not part of that scene at whatever hardcore show I go to. It's like, no matter what kind of hardcore (except metalcore, that's 90% scenster emos), there's always a majority of Youth Crew sXe guys.

[The Douche]

Maybe I didn't phrase myself correctly: I can't see many people which are not part of that scene at whatever hardcore show I go to. It's like, no matter what kind of hardcore (except metalcore, that's 90% scenster emos), there's always a majority of Youth Crew sXe guys.

Ah ok, yeah, around here a youth crew type dude wouldn't be caught dead at a show with like, bury your dead or whatever.

[incogweedo]

Bring me the horizon is pretty much the only Deathcore band I ever found enjoyable ;s it's so damn catchy.

im not a big fan of their new stuff, or "scene shit" (I HATTTEE dot dot curve and brokencyde), but i do find bmth old stuff pretty good

[Widerstand]

im not a big fan of their new stuff, or "scene shit" (I HATTTEE dot dot curve and brokencyde), but i do find bmth old stuff pretty good

Count Your Blessings was awesome. Suicide Season was still enjoyable, but not as good.

[Tablo]

Job for a Cowboy is meh.

[Axle]

I first heard Job for a Cowboy about two and a half years ago at Gigantour and was severely underwhelmed.

[∞]

W00t! Fellow fans