BRITAIN Tea Party movement.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

This is just pure retardation and historical fail, conservative Daniel Hannan is trying to make his own Tea Party movement in Britain :laugh:

There's a 'tea party' in Britain this Saturday. The Sarah Palin kind.
British Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan is looking to bring the anti-tax, anti-big government fervor embodied by the American Tea Party movement across the Atlantic by hosting the inaugural "British Tea Party" event in, of all places, his home in Brighton. And, yes, Hannan promises he will be actually serving "you know, tea."
Hannan explained his motivation on his blog (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100027366/british-tea-party-movement-to-launch-on-saturday/) at the Telegraph:

Labour has raised more than a trillion pounds in additional taxation since 1997. Yet, unbelievably, Gordon Brown has still managed to run up a deficit of 12.6 per cent of GDP (Greece's is 12.7 per cent). A far lower level of taxation brought Americans out in spontaneous protest last year. The "Brighton Tea Party," as the event is known, is backed by the Freedom Association (http://www.tfa.net/the_freedom_association/2010/02/brighton-tea-party.html), a libertarian group that counts Hannan as a member. The American Tea Party movement has sent out an email promoting the British Tea Party. The email reveals they are also helping to organize the event.
In addition to being anti-tax and a vocal Eurospectic, Hannan is also well known for his outspoken criticism of publicly funded health care. Last summer he appeared on Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539273,00.html) to bash proposals to fix the US health care system as well as rail against Britain's health services.
In an interview with EUObserver (http://euobserver.com/9/29567) about the event, Hannan said he believes the Tea Party movement could have "enormous resonance across the EU."
"The paradox is that the US Tea Party movement is inspired by the slogan 'No taxation without representation' and they do actually elect their representatives. In the EU, there genuinely is taxation without representation," he told the EUObserver (http://euobserver.com/9/29567).
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From the Freedom Association invitation (http://www.tfa.net/the_freedom_association/2010/02/brighton-tea-party.html):

The event will take place on the Conservative Party Spring Forum fringe, but is outside the secure zone, so all members of the public are very welcome to attend. Admission is free. Tea and other refreshments will be available at a small charge. Cash bar.
Daniel, a Council Member of The Freedom Association, says, "you can't tax your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt".
The Tea Party Movement in the USA has demonstrated the huge scale of public opposition to excessive taxation. In the UK, tax is much higher and, in addition, British membership of the democratically unaccountable EU raises the issue of "no taxation without representation".
From the Boston Tea Party to the Brighton Tea Party, it's time to demonstrate our opposition to excessive taxation.

[bricolage]

This is pretty old, nothing happened.

[The Vegan Marxist]

Britain is definitely in the stages of "Americanization". It's sad to see, especially with the serious talks of privatizing the NHS.

[bricolage]

Britain is definitely in the stages of "Americanization".
What does that even mean?

Also I wouldn't take this story to mean anything, it was just one guy chatting shit. As I said nothing happened.

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

It won't catch on, UK politics are diffrent.

[The Vegan Marxist]

What does that even mean?

Also I wouldn't take this story to mean anything, it was just one guy chatting shit. As I said nothing happened.

As in, it's going down the road we're in right now. And really, it only takes one person to start something.

[bricolage]

As in, it's going down the road we're in right now.
I still don't know what you mean though.


And really, it only takes one person to start something.
Except this didn't start anything.

[The Vegan Marxist]

I still don't know what you mean though.


Except this didn't start anything.

For now, sure. But the Tea Party here in the States wasn't well organized when it first came up. Now, it's pretty big unfortunately. Just saying, it's possible & should at least be acknowledged that there's some kind of existence of them.

[Volcanicity]

Its nothing to worry about,there is no way the tea party will catch on here.If any one tried to privatise the NHS they would be strung up on the nearest lampost.

[Serge's Fist]

Nothing will come of it, the traditional home of right-wing reaction is in government now. The only thing that comes close to the Tea Party stuff in the U.S would probably be the English Defense League who have coalesced lots of different reactionary and often antagonistic currents.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

Its nothing to worry about,there is no way the tea party will catch on here.If any one tried to privatise the NHS they would be strung up on the nearest lampost.
The sad truth is that the NHS is being systematically sold off to private interest as we speak.

[danyboy27]

For now, sure. But the Tea Party here in the States wasn't well organized when it first came up. Now, it's pretty big unfortunately. Just saying, it's possible & should at least be acknowledged that there's some kind of existence of them.

is it really big, or more like, media big? beccause from my understanding, FOX news kinda make the picture bigger than it is right now.

seriously, how many thousand of tea partier exist vs the rest of the us population? 1, maybe 3?

here in quebec we have like 100 000 fan of a particular right wing radio station, assole right wing libertarian, but it still only 100 000 vs 6 million peoples.

and the more the time pass, the more they ridicule themselves.
what is the spokeperson for the tea party? Sarah Palin?

who watch fox news? median age of 65 year old of the red state?

if you live in one of those hellhole, i would understand why you are alarmed, but otherwise...

[A Revolutionary Tool]

is it really big, or more like, media big? beccause from my understanding, FOX news kinda make the picture bigger than it is right now.

seriously, how many thousand of tea partier exist vs the rest of the us population? 1, maybe 3?

here in quebec we have like 100 000 fan of a particular right wing radio station, assole right wing libertarian, but it still only 100 000 vs 6 million peoples.

and the more the time pass, the more they ridicule themselves.
what is the spokeperson for the tea party? Sarah Palin?

who watch fox news? median age of 65 year old of the red state?

if you live in one of those hellhole, i would understand why you are alarmed, but otherwise...
The last time I saw a poll like 39% of the people supported the Tea Party. But I think support has grown :(.
EDIT:I lie I can't find any polls saying over 31% of people support them.

[Dimentio]

The same segments in Britain tend to be islamophobes instead.

Moreover, a lot of the Tea Party environment in the USA is characterised by a sort of extreme masculine spirit.

[bricolage]

For now, sure. But the Tea Party here in the States wasn't well organized when it first came up. Now, it's pretty big unfortunately. Just saying, it's possible & should at least be acknowledged that there's some kind of existence of them.
Its a different climate, the kind of right wing libertarianism that is the foundation of the Tea Party just doesn't have a presence here and such a movement won't grow. The EDL for example are qualitatively different to the Tea Party in aims, belief, tactics etc etc.

I'm still unsure how any of this fits into some sort of 'Americanization' though.

[Volcanicity]

The sad truth is that the NHS is being systematically sold off to private interest as we speak.
Yeah you are right,that was more wishful thinking on my behalf.

[Volcanicity]

We are not being americanised politically so much just culturally.The us tea party is hardly heard of here.Whereas Sarah palin is just known as a dumb-ass.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

Yeah you are right,that was more wishful thinking on my behalf.
I know what you mean. You were right in the sense that any open and obvious moves to privatise the NHS would be met with a mass movement, but the new Tory policy (and what would have probably been Labour's) with regards to the NHS is very snidey and sneaky in the way that it uses "social enterprises" as a mask for a sell off to private interest.

Here's a video that does a fairly good job of explaining the logistics of the NHS policy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNiruX2gZDc&feature=player_embedded

[Red Commissar]

This is pretty old, nothing happened.

Yeah, I remember seeing this article a while back when Hannan was still high off the teabaggers loving him for trashing the NHS. And like you said, nothing came of it.

What right-wing angst there was at the time was dissipated with a Tory victory at the polls. How surprising :rolleyes:

[gorillafuck]

For now, sure. But the Tea Party here in the States wasn't well organized when it first came up. Now, it's pretty big unfortunately.
It is not as big as the media makes it seem, thankfully.


Britain is definitely in the stages of "Americanization". It's sad to see, especially with the serious talks of privatizing the NHS.
You talk as if Britain is an American colony.

[Volcanicity]

I know what you mean. You were right in the sense that any open and obvious moves to privatise the NHS would be met with a mass movement, but the new Tory policy (and what would have probably been Labour's) with regards to the NHS is very snidey and sneaky in the way that it uses "social enterprises" as a mask for a sell off to private interest.

Here's a video that does a fairly good job of explaining the logistics of the NHS policy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNiruX2gZDc&feature=player_embedded
Exactly they are bringing things through the back-door with their snidey phrases like "social enterprises" as well as their bullshit "big society".That video sums it up in a nutshell.The phrase"hell in a hand-cart comes to mind".

[Volcanicity]

It is not as big as the media makes it seem, thankfully.


You talk as if Britain is an American colony.
They treat every country as an american colony.

[The Idler]

British Tea Party mentioned in February
(http://www.revleft.com/vb/showthread.php?t=129345)

[gorillafuck]

They treat every country as an american colony.
No the US doesn't treat every country like a colony, that's ridiculous. Britain is not under the heel of American or any imperialism, Britain is and always has been an enforcer of western imperialism.

[bailey_187]

There is no way this will catch on.

[DunyaGongrenKomRevolyutsi]

The Labour Party have found far more inventive and effective ways of privatizing the NHS than Thatcher EVER would have, in fact her ideas would have inspired massive opposition whereas Labour completely got away with letting private business prioritise the NHS.

The Conservatives are just continuing what they started in the 1980's, but don't tell me Labour were any better in the 1970's with their immigrant scare-mongering against African-Asian middle-class doctors who had immigrated to this country to escape persecution.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

No the US doesn't treat every country like a colony, that's ridiculous. Britain is not under the heel of American or any imperialism, Britain is and always has been an enforcer of western imperialism.

Under U.S. cultural hegemony, maybe, but that's not really imperialism. But I think that is what Vegan Marxist was referring to, the warping of political and cultural trends in other countries, imperialist or otherwise, in ways that mirror and are similar to traditions in the U.S.

This can be exemplified by the rising popularity in Sweden of politicians using smear and personal attacks as a part of their campaign strategy in a fragrant way that would have been unthinkable a few years ago. I hear they even invited Karl Rove last election to lecture them on how to smear well.

[fa2991]

:lol: The best part of this is that in adopting the name of the American protests they are taking on the name of a mass rally where America destroyed tons of British property and summarily told Britain to go fuck itself.

[Radek]

As already noted, this was relatively big news when it was happening, they claimed that the meeting was a packed out success (a couple hundred people), and since then I haven't heard a single word said about it. Seems to me that it was more about giving Hannan a platform than it was about organising anything substantial (though I'm not sure I can picture millions of people taking to the streets to chant against the NHS regardless).

The Freedom Association's last update on their website is about a meeting on the 11th of July. The meeting was to be followed by dumping tea into a harbour... I think Hannan has been spending a little too much time in the US. Their next meeting will probably be a month before the next EU elections, when Hannan needs to raise his profile again.

[Volcanicity]

The American tea party in britain isnt as big as a teddy bears picnic .It means nothing.