Post Revolution ideas for the state: Dermezel not welcome

[Conquer or Die]

"After the revolution the state will whither away!"

Cool beans, until then:

After a system of labor vouchers are installed to reject exploitation of human activity based on gaining excess value (thus destroying all forms of social life known as Feudalism, Corporatism, Capitalism, and all the rest exploitative economic forms) there will need to be a way to have Teachers, Doctors, Soldiers, Police, Technocrats, and Maintenance workers paid for their service.

My suggestion is this; labor vouchers will be paid in full to a certain limit. All excess labor hours with which to accrue additional real value will have a small flat tax imposed in order to sustain non-productive sectors of the economy who fulfill necessary roles.

The logic is thus:
Keep what you work for in total in order to sustain yourself. If you so choose to work more you'll have some of that labor taken for the formation of complimentary specialist roles in the economy that are under conditions to perform objective tasks. If you so choose only to work to provide for yourself then you accept the specialist task of managing and technocracy. Since actions will be local and individual, the formation of your government will be based on how it chooses to deal with the above labor excess.

Since labor is in control (finally) and management will be local (finally), the state will whither away over the course of time but it will likely happen under such a condition in which the workers can reasonably work out management for themselves. The specialist roles will be the public dole and controlled by the community's own decisions.

[Ele'ill]

I envision Dinotopia.....

[mikelepore]

The way Marx describes it, at least the way I interpret what he wrote, is this: All the products of society are conceptually added into one total inventory. Out of this total there is allocation to every common purpose, including administration, scientific research, some public services, an emergency fund to handle disasters, etc. The remainder of the production is what gets distributed in proportion to labor time. The deduction for social purposes may be called a tax, for lack of a better term. So what we may wish to consider here is, are we getting a tax that is a fixed percentage of labor time, which would mean that people who work more hours bear more of the tax, or are we getting a tax that is a fixed burden for each person? For these two options, we may think of advantages and disadvantages for each method. Either way, the arithmetic needed for the accounting is very simple.

[Conquer or Die]

The way Marx describes it, at least the way I interpret what he wrote, is this: All the products of society are conceptually added into one total inventory. Out of this total there is allocation to every common purpose, including administration, scientific research, some public services, an emergency fund to handle disasters, etc. The remainder of the production is what gets distributed in proportion to labor time. The deduction for social purposes may be called a tax, for lack of a better term. So what we may wish to consider here is, are we getting a tax that is a fixed percentage of labor time, which would mean that people who work more hours bear more of the tax, or are we getting a tax that is a fixed burden for each person? For these two options, we may think of advantages and disadvantages for each method. Either way, the arithmetic needed for the accounting is very simple.

I propose that the tax be a flat tax so that it is equal between all people. I think this is the best solution because it is fair judgement of burden for the minor parasitism necessary before a potentially stateless society.

I appreciate your opinions, why don't you come down one way or the other?