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Mahatma Gandhi
8th August 2010, 19:04
... the most remarkable thing ever? Not the movie, although it was no doubt fantastic. I mean the fact that someone would love us so much that he'd suffer and die for us in a most humiliating way.:( Especially when that 'someone' happens to be an all-powerful being and doesn't have to endure even a moment's sorrow? Ordinary people carrying their cross out of compulsion is one thing, but an omnipotent being doing it for your sake is simply mind-boggling, isn't it?

Does the very idea humble you completely, make you want to get down on your knees and cry out in pain?

Mahatma

Redswiss
8th August 2010, 19:20
No it doesn't, not at all.
But then again, I am not a 'believer'.

Nolan
8th August 2010, 19:25
Stop Preachin'

ÑóẊîöʼn
8th August 2010, 19:31
... the most remarkable thing ever? Not the movie, although it was no doubt fantastic. I mean the fact that someone would love us so much that he'd suffer and die for us in a most humiliating way.:(

I find it utterly, totally, absolutely ludicrous. I do not know this Jesus character, I did not ask him to die for me, so now I am expected to kiss his ass for doing so? Fuck that noise.


Especially when that 'someone' happens to be an all-powerful being and doesn't have to endure even a moment's sorrow? Ordinary people carrying their cross out of compulsion is one thing, but an omnipotent being doing it for your sake is simply mind-boggling, isn't it?

No it isn't. Jesus's sacrifice is meaningless because he came back to life. Besides, how do we know he wasn't putting on an act of being in pain, while laughing inside at all the foolish mortals clamouring to stick their tongues deep into his cosmic asshole?


Does the very idea humble you completely, make you want to get down on your knees and cry out in pain?

It does no such thing. Instead it makes me marvel at the ability of humans to believe in the daftest shit.

We definitely need a long range of bug fixes and upgrades to our mental architecture.

Raúl Duke
8th August 2010, 19:38
Not the movie, although it was no doubt fantastic.

The movie sucked.
Even my religious parents thought it was BDSM movie


I mean the fact that someone would love us so much that he'd suffer and die for us in a most humiliating way.

No one asked for that.
No one.
Not one.

Also, many people were crucified and worse.


Especially when that 'someone' happens to be an all-powerful being and doesn't have to endure even a moment's sorrow?

Prove it, prove Jesus is god using sources outside of the bible.


but an omnipotent being doing it for your sake is simply mind-boggling, isn't it?


Yes it is, thus why not believed except by the gullible. Unfortunately, there's too many gullible people in the world but progress is being made about that. (http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/paul07/paul07_index.html)

Also, prove that an omnipotent being exist, because everything else is mere speculation.


Does the very idea humble you completely, make you want to get down on your knees and cry out in pain?

Not any more or less than any other fairy tale does.

x371322
9th August 2010, 01:14
Does the very idea humble you completely, make you want to get down on your knees and cry out in pain?

Mahatma

No. But I kind of feel like dancing!

...Anyway, why would I want to mess up a perfectly good pair of pants by getting on my knees to cry about something that probably didn't even happen? Thousands of innocent people are dying in imperialist wars around the globe, and I'm supposed to be humbled and saddened by the execution of some charlatan over 2000 years ago? Nah, I don't think so.

Blackscare
9th August 2010, 01:17
Stop Preachin'


Seriously though, I thought that preaching was against the rules of revleft and a bannable offense.

anticap
9th August 2010, 01:45
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Part 2 examines your "Christ" [sic], part 1 focuses on Abraham; but they're a set and should be watched together.

IllicitPopsicle
9th August 2010, 01:55
How does putting even more pain in the world make it a better place?

Cuz Jeezis liek dyed 4 ur sinz n shit.

:laugh::rolleyes:

M-26-7
9th August 2010, 02:46
... the most remarkable thing ever? Not the movie, although it was no doubt fantastic. I mean the fact that someone would love us so much that he'd suffer and die for us in a most humiliating way.:( Especially when that 'someone' happens to be an all-powerful being and doesn't have to endure even a moment's sorrow? Ordinary people carrying their cross out of compulsion is one thing, but an omnipotent being doing it for your sake is simply mind-boggling, isn't it?

Does the very idea humble you completely, make you want to get down on your knees and cry out in pain?

Mahatma
http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp313/nativity4me2009/JESUS%20PICS/laughing_jesus2.jpg
http://scienceblogs.com/isisthescientist/upload/2009/03/the_curse_of_the_isis_homes/normal_LaughingJesus.jpg
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/223859/laughingjesusart.jpg

And lo, Jesus did saith, "Good troll, Mahatma."

Mahatma Gandhi
9th August 2010, 04:54
Now I understand the true import of Jesus' advice: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine...:(

Mahatma Gandhi
9th August 2010, 04:57
kiss his ass
Fuck that noise.
stick their tongues deep into his cosmic asshole?
believe in the daftest shit.


Amazing ... that He died for the likes of you. Absolutely amazing ... no wonder John said: God is love.:)

Mahatma Gandhi
9th August 2010, 05:04
The movie sucked.
Even my religious parents thought it was BDSM movie

Opinions vary; that's life. It ranks alongside Ben Hur and other classics.


No one asked for that.

Love never asks. It gives.:)


Also, many people were crucified and worse.

For an omnipotent being, even a pinprick causes unimaginable pain.


Prove it, prove Jesus is god using sources outside of the bible.

Do I also get to prove the sun's splendor? Why prove that which is self-evident?


Not any more or less than any other fairy tale does.

Ever heard of gratitude?

Blackscare
9th August 2010, 05:10
While you're feeling so self-righteous, you little troll, how is your avatar not offensive anyway? I've been wondering that for a while.


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Do I also get to prove the sun's splendor? Why prove that which is self-evident?

It's not self-evident in the least. It's just an assumption that you were raised with and adopted as your own.

The sun I can see, I have more reliable sources as to it's existence than a 2,000 year old phone book.

Kuppo Shakur
9th August 2010, 05:20
Jesus was reactionary.

RedStarOverChina
9th August 2010, 05:28
We should ban the fucktard already. He's been preaching like it'll be Judgment Day tomorrow.


Does the very idea humble you completely, make you want to get down on your knees and cry out in pain?
No, that's just you. Now go cry in your mother's basement and leave us alone.

Blackscare
9th August 2010, 05:34
Why is the mod team so active when it comes to closing certain threads, etc, but totally passive when it comes to infracting certain mods or banning this asshole?

Stephen Colbert
9th August 2010, 05:36
... the most remarkable thing ever? Not the movie, although it was no doubt fantastic. I mean the fact that someone would love us so much that he'd suffer and die for us in a most humiliating way and create a primary cause the largest amount of human suffering in world history vis-a-vis religiously grounded imperialism and holy wars.:( Especially when that 'someone' happens to be an all-powerful being and doesn't have to endure even a moment's sorrow? Ordinary people carrying their cross out of compulsion is one thing, but an omnipotent being doing it for your sake is simply mind-boggling, isn't it? I feel like its almost too good to be true.

Does the very idea humble you completely, make you want to get down on your knees and cry out in pain? And join a faction that kills other religions?


fixed

Lenina Rosenweg
9th August 2010, 05:39
... the most remarkable thing ever? Not the movie, although it was no doubt fantastic. I mean the fact that someone would love us so much that he'd suffer and die for us in a most humiliating way.:( Especially when that 'someone' happens to be an all-powerful being and doesn't have to endure even a moment's sorrow? Ordinary people carrying their cross out of compulsion is one thing, but an omnipotent being doing it for your sake is simply mind-boggling, isn't it?

Does the very idea humble you completely, make you want to get down on your knees and cry out in pain?

Mahatma

Have you ever head of The Passover Plot by Hugh Schonfeld? He was one of the main scholars to work on the Dad Sea Scrolls. The main theme of the book is that the "Crucification" was faked. He's not a crackpot-the book is very well documented and made something o a stir when it came out in the mid 70s.

I've been told the Christian system only works if you believe, and I'm not a believer.

mikelepore
9th August 2010, 05:42
Assuming that the story is true, it's still not clear what Jesus's objective was. He had to die so that people could achieve everlasting life (John 3:16). it's not clear what connection there is between one thing and the other. How could a crucifiction lead to our everlasting life? Perhaps that we will feel so guilty about the crucifiction that we won't sin anymore? The connection is never specified. You'd think that such a fundamental principle would be expressed somewhere in the divine word. It's also not clear why an all-powerful being couldn't devise a much easier way, for example, to show himself to everyone like he did to Moses so that people won't doubt his existence. The story just isn't logical. Not only does God have such character defects as being jealous and losing his temper, but he also fails at simple logic. It almost seems as though the story was made up by people from the Bronze Age.

Lenina Rosenweg
9th August 2010, 05:49
I've heard "The Passion" was a hit in gay clubs in Europe. A cute guy being beaten and whipped-a BDSM classic.

Invincible Summer
9th August 2010, 05:50
Thread Closed. Stop this bullshit.