Marxist cancer menaces U.S.

[Comrade Marxist Bro]

Just found a curious letter-to-the-editor published on August 2 in the Northwest Florida Daily News. It is the daily newspaper of Fort Walton Beach, FL, and run by Freedom Communications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Communications), in print since 1946.



LETTER: A Marxist cancer

Are we better off today, under total control by Marxist Democrats, than when George W. Bush and the Republican Congress were in control from 2001 to 2006?

Consider the facts. Under Republicans, the economy was soaring and the jobless rate was at a historic low of 4.4 percent thanks to Bush having signed into law the largest tax relief in U.S. history, having increased the child tax credit, having reduced the marriage penalty and having eliminated the death tax. The budget deficit under Republican control (fiscal year 2006) was $200 billion.

What are we facing with a Marxist White House and a majority Marxist Congress? The deficit and debt are out of control! On purpose? I think so!
The deficit is at least $1.5 trillion for fiscal 2011 and the overall debt is unsustainable. It is estimated that if the budget and debt are not brought under control, our country will experience a monetary collapse in two to five years.

The Incompetent One in the White House has no integrity. He promised ObamaCare would not fund abortions or limit choice of doctors or cause tax increases — all lies! What we are facing, folks, is an attempt by subversive Marxists/socialists in lockstep with the leftist media to totally transform our constitutional republic into a socialist autocracy!
Let’s face facts: Republicans are job creators! Democrats are job killers! We must, must put a stop to this Marxist cancer and vote them out. Pelosi, Reid, Waxman, Frank and their ilk must go on Nov. 2!

— SAM PATTI
Miramar Beach



http://www.nwfdailynews.com/opinion/control-31546-having-tax.html

[Comrade Marxist Bro]

One of communism's worst effects was in 1933. Adolff Hitler was a communist dictator. Under his instructions, the holocaust began. Over six million Jewish people died. Not counting the people fighting in the war.The holcaust lasted until 1945.

Communists consider their goal, their party, and the state more important than individual rights and liberties. In communist countries, there are usually huge gaps between official claims of freedom and conditions in which they actually exist. For example, under communism the Soviet Union had a constitution. It assured citizens freedom of speech, press, and assembly.The constitution guaranteed the right to a job and freedom of religion too. It promised equal rights for all.

But in the late 1980's the Soviet government ignored or violated many of these rights. If anyone criticized the system in public, they were punished. No media was allowed to be published if it opposed the government or it's leaders. Still, it was hard to control and inspect everything that was printed. Some articles that condoned the government did get to the public. Writers were trying to warn the citizens about the government.

Between 1945 and 1975 the number of countries under the rule of communism increased greatly, partly because of the way the victorious powers of in World War 2 divided the world among them, and partly because of the Third world. Then in 1989 the number once again deduced because of the rapid political changes taking place in the world. Some thought it might be the end of communism. But the government did not give up.


http://warrensburg.k12.mo.us/soc/comm/krystal.html

[Adi Shankara]

Lol, the title sounds like something out of a late 19th century newspaper.

in fact, the content of the editorial seems to be exactly the same as one in a 19th century newspaper.

[Adi Shankara]

Also, have they ever wondered why, if Obama is a "marxist" and the democrats are "marxists", why the real Communists criticize them all so much? doesn't anything click there?

[The Vegan Marxist]

Wow, they called Hitler a communist. Now that's funny :laugh: Given the fact that communists were victims to Hitler's death camps as well. I fucking hate McCarthyists!

[The Vegan Marxist]

Also, have they ever wondered why, if Obama is a "marxist" and the democrats are "marxists", why the real Communists criticize them all so much? doesn't anything click there?

They see the "real communists" as the CPUSA though, who do openly support Obama.

[Adi Shankara]

Wow, they called Hitler a communist. Now that's funny :laugh: Given the fact that communists were victims to Hitler's death camps as well. I fucking hate McCarthyists!

http://adamthinks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/obama_nazi_communist_muslim_peace.jpg
:D:laugh:

[Chimurenga.]

This shit is getting ridiculous.

[Comrade Marxist Bro]

Wow, they called Hitler a communist. Now that's funny :laugh: Given the fact that communists were victims to Hitler's death camps as well. I fucking hate McCarthyists!

Wondering if the parents / school / neighbors / country are that heavily into right-wing indoctrination? :lol:

[Stephen Colbert]

Weimar Republic?

There's a very large portion of the country that the left has failed to organize. Working class, honest, god-fearing, patriotic Americans who seek to destroy the fabric of society by scapegoats and bigotry rather than economic upheaval.

Massive multi-national corporate media globalized reactionary movement- 1
RevLeft- 0

[Proletarian Ultra]

I hope these people keep writing letters. We got their name on record and know who to round up when the revolution comes.

[Raúl Duke]

Lol, the title sounds like something out of a late 19th century newspaper.

in fact, the content of the editorial seems to be exactly the same as one in a 19th century newspaper. More like a 1950s editorial.


It is the daily newspaper of Fort Walton Beach, FLFor those who do not know, this city is located in the Panhandle (unless I'm mistaken) near Pensacola and the Panhandle is more culturally closer to the "Deep South" than South Florida.

The editorial is funny in that it just states things without backing any of that shit up.

It doesn't prove that no funding for abortions, etc are lies, doesn't prove that Hitler is a communist, etc.

It's more like preaching to the choir kind of editorial.


There's a very large portion of the country that the left has failed to organize. Working class, honest, god-fearing, patriotic Americans who seek to destroy the fabric of society by scapegoats and bigotry rather than economic upheaval.Not sure if that's accurate per se... Florida is full of retired people.
I'm willing to be this came from old folks.
For one, people who work did not feel better during Bush's terms so they would not have praised him at all.

While the left might have failed to agitate the working class at the moment it doesn't entail that they've all been successfully brainwashed by the media either.

[Stephen Colbert]

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9124/motivator7fa30d74fac15c.jpg

I made this :laugh:

[Comrade Marxist Bro]

For those who do not know, this city is located in the Panhandle (unless I'm mistaken) near Pensacola and the Panhandle is more culturally closer to the "Deep South" than South Florida.

Yep, letter-writer Sam Patti is a Panhandle Floridian. Miramar Beach, FL.

Meanwhile, an unsigned editorial on the virtues of the Vietnamese-American work ethic from the Florida Ocala Star-Banner (July 5, 1986) hints as to spotlight-hogging Mr. Patti's class background:


Future Bright for Vietnamese

Editor's Note: Immigrants have always believed that success was simply a matter of hard work. The Vietnamese are no exception. Their long hours and abiding faith in the value of sweat have made them prosperous and left them wanting more.

[...]

"They [Vietnamese fishermen] didn't have a thing when they came here, now they own nearly every shrimp boat on the dock," said Sam Patti, whose family has been in the Pensacola wholesale fish business for a half-century.

Patti's company sponsored more than 50 Vietnamese families in the Pensacola area in the late 1970s, providing minimum wage jobs for men and work mending nets and shucking oysters for the women.

After the first year they had worked so hard and saved so much that they started buying their own boats," Patti said. "You have to work hard to succeed as a shrimper, but the Vietnamese are just amazing."

(http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=YSIVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=BQcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6237,2579778&dq=sam-patti+letter&hl=en)

The writer's love of low-pay immigrant Vietnamese labor notwithstanding, it's interesting that the Wikipedia article on Miramar Beach, Florida, describes that community as "96.63% White, 0.62% African American, 0.70% Native American, 0.94% Asian, 0.21% from other races, and 0.90% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1.36% of the population." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miramar_Beach,_Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miramar_Beach,_Florida))

May be that all of the dozen or so Vietnamese living there are Mr. Patti's minimum-wage net-menders or oyster-shuckers.

[Raúl Duke]

hints as to spotlight-hogging Mr. Patti's class background:So he's a petit-bourgeois old man?

I actually thought that was more likely than just any retiree; at least for a leadership role in such an org.

I think Patti would have done something more constructive if he and the Vietnamese he's sponsored had a a few words on how the BP oil spill would/might affect their jobs rather than writing some un-sourced rant about so-called "Marxist" cancer.

After all I heard that tar balls actually reached Pensacola beach (thankfully not Tampa, Naples, and Fort Myers).

[fa2991]

Well, at least these sorts of things put the word "Marxism" out there.

Maybe I'm too much of an optimist, but I've always sort of hoped that people reading would see "Marxist!" and say "Hmmm... I wonder what that is" and, after some heavy reading, eventually see the light.

[KurtFF8]

For those who do not know, this city is located in the Panhandle (unless I'm mistaken) near Pensacola and the Panhandle is more culturally closer to the "Deep South" than South Florida.

Indeed. Petty much Florida from the border with Georgia down to Orlando-ish is part of the "Deep South" but once you get to Orlando and South of that (with some exceptions of course) then you're in a whole different arena. (I've lived in both for the past 8 years)

[Pretty Flaco]

Well, at least these sorts of things put the word "Marxism" out there.

Maybe I'm too much of an optimist, but I've always sort of hoped that people reading would see "Marxist!" and say "Hmmm... I wonder what that is" and, after some heavy reading, eventually see the light.

That's actually sort of what happened to me.

And I wish Obama was a marxist... That'd be some change I'd believe in.

[Red Commissar]

http://warrensburg.k12.mo.us/soc/comm/krystal.html

What's scary about that it's hosted on a school server which means it's probably used as a teaching tool by the teacher.

Yes, this crap might be taught to children as a "fact". I've noticed like his assertion that Hitler was Communist from that quote, he also has this gem elsewhere.


In Hungary, Milosevic used communism to come to power, and serbic today resembles a one-party state in the classic communism sense. The presidents social part and two smaller leftist parties one run by Milosevics wife. This meant control over the media, police departments, and most large businesses and organ of state.


As for the original news story, just more preaching to the choir. Amazing what horrid lack of a firm grasp of politics many people have- and many of them attribute a poor knowledge of politics for people voting Obama in to office in the first place.

I mean I've seen long winded phrases such as "Marxist socialist communist". I mean seriously, by this point it's obvious its cheap fear mongering.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

What's scary about that it's hosted on a school server which means it's probably used as a teaching tool by the teacher.

Yes, this crap might be taught to children as a "fact". I've noticed like his assertion that Hitler was Communist from that quote, he also has this gem elsewhere.


Two of the horrible things also cite that scum Brian Caplan as a source... I presume some insane teacher must have had his rubbish as required reading material... :crying:

[Comrade Marxist Bro]

What's scary about that it's hosted on a school server which means it's probably used as a teaching tool by the teacher.

Yes, this crap might be taught to children as a "fact". I've noticed like his assertion that Hitler was Communist from that quote, he also has this gem elsewhere.

Oh, yeah: the second source is some kid's essay for either middle school or high school, and is presented on a public school server as some sort of passable example of a student essay or an acceptable object for reflection on the state of the educational process.

Now, it's unreasonable to expect scholar-level work from one of America's K-12 public schools. I've had some biased history teachers in classes myself, but never did I actually see things go down as far.

Given that the essay doesn't waver a centimeter in its stark political conclusions, even as nearly every single fact mentioned happens to be utterly wrong, it's mind-boggling to think of just where political indoctrination of that magnitude could have originated. If all young people acquire their ideas from somewhere else, it leads one to wonder at how many other Americans with political "deductions" subsist on a steady diet of pure propaganda and build up their political convictions through arguments founded on similar premises.


As for the original news story, just more preaching to the choir. Amazing what horrid lack of a firm grasp of politics many people have- and many of them attribute a poor knowledge of politics for people voting Obama in to office in the first place.

To my mind, the fact that it was published at all by a daily newspaper with a respectable circulation speaks volumes about the level of political discourse observable in the USA.

More likely than not, a letter highlighting any number of "far-left" issues such as the ongoing slaughter of civilians by the American forces, the corruption of our corporate system of politics, the limitation inherent in the structure of our electoral system, and the worldwide exploitation would be perceived as beyond the Pale and unworthy to mention, whereas Patti's rant about the "Marxist Democrats" and the "leftist media" in the U.S. actually gets picked up as a worthwhile piece by the news editor.

[Red Commissar]

Due to a number of reasons it is quite fashionable- despite the right-wing nutjob assertions to the contrary, to present socialism as the cause for everything bad that has happened in the 1900s.

Every day I come back from either work or campus, I pass by a house which displays to the world, under the flag, a banner that proclaims "FIGHT SOCIALISM".

[Stephen Colbert]

Due to a number of reasons it is quite fashionable- despite the right-wing nutjob assertions to the contrary, to present socialism as the cause for everything bad that has happened in the 1900s.

Every day I come back from either work or campus, I pass by a house which displays to the world, under the flag, a banner that proclaims "FIGHT SOCIALISM".

Bro I live near some of the most rural areas in western New York and the amount of don't tread on me flags I see makes me want to vomit :P

[Red Commissar]

They're all afraid of Barack Hussein Obama's secular-socialist conspiracy to undermine America, of course.

[Stephen Colbert]

They're all afraid of Barack Hussein Obama's secular-socialist fascist muslim commie globalist NWO conspiracy to undermine American exceptionalism, of course.

fixed

[La Peur Rouge]

Bro I live near some of the most rural areas in western New York and the amount of don't tread on me flags I see makes me want to vomit :P

They really are everywhere around here :thumbdown:

[A Revolutionary Tool]

That type of crap is printed in my local newspaper all the time, it even got so bad one time that they seriously printed a story almost copy and pasted from a joke on a site claiming the CPUSA is suing the Democratic party for stealing their platform. The "story" was submitted by our Republican Party club in our county and the editor didn't even bother to check if this was true. It's pretty sad.

[Pavlov's House Party]

The biggest irony of Mcarthyist rhetoric is their claim that while communism is a failed ideology ("look at what happened to the USSR, China, etc!"), it must be stamped out to prevent communists from taking over. Reactionaries like that spring out of the woodwork whenever radical ideas become relevant, like now during the recession.

[Boboulas]

The biggest irony of Mcarthyist rhetoric is their claim that while communism is a failed ideology ("look at what happened to the USSR, China, etc!"), it must be stamped out to prevent communists from taking over. Reactionaries like that spring out of the woodwork whenever radical ideas become relevant, like now during the recession.

Its not a new thing to have a scape goat, usualy its been foriegners at different points in time (Chinese,blacks, hispanics, eastern europeans, irish). And usualy the propaganda displays these people as "great threats to society" to "the american way of life" and if something isnt done, the universe will end or something. Its not just people either, its entire countries these days. Nicuragua, venezuala, iran. The media empires make it seem like the very balance of the universe hangs on wether these "axis of evil" can do what they want.

I think its down to corperate propaganda that depicts the government as evil and all government programs are bad (may sound strange ill explain if u want) and to the horrible economic situaiton of america.

It wasnt direct corperate intervension that created this "obama is a socialist" bullshit. It was the far right elements of american society that have grown under bush and exploded under obama. Its been brewing for a while.

People who see correleations between wiemar germnay and america today are totaly solid assesments, its scary, it really is.

[Pavlov's House Party]

It doesn't have as much to do with needing a scapegoat as the fact that revolutionary ideas are more relevant than ever and pose a direct threat to the capitalist ruling class. McCarthyism in its historical and present form is pure capitalist reaction to the growing strength and consciousness of the working class.